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Nafeez's Google History lacks US Customs & Secret Service
by Anonymous Remailer (austria) 31 Jan '15

31 Jan '15

Nafeez's Google History lacks US Customs & Secret Service Re Nafeez's convoluted Google history that neglects to mention altavista et al were seized by us customs and us secret service, held by marshalls until transfer to DHS. You neglect one of the most important historical factors that merged the commercial civil indexing systems with other monitoring: altavista (and others) was seized by US Customs for illegal export and laundering of stolen copywrite content with US Secret Service for computer crimes. Result was bot indexing rules and Yahoo. ALL of the large search systems are state managed.

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Re: [Cryptography] How the CIA Made Google
by John Young 31 Jan '15

31 Jan '15

An early program of Highlands Group was perception management by which public opinion would be shaped by disparagement of opposition to ubiquitous gov-com spying with gambits like "tin-foil hat," "conspiracy theory," and other forms of reputation attacks. Chorusing these terms becomes habitual with repetition, even among those who are otherwise open-minded to novel scientific and theological innovations so long as the innovations are peer-reviewed or sanctioned by authorities, even when the authorities are revealed to be self-serving and corrupt, perhaps especially so. That is the crippling effects of standards setting in all human endeavors, the favoritism toward standards setting obedient members and ostacism of dissenters to the dominants. Fortunately, the tin-hatters and conspiriacists overturn the sclerotic hegemons if not burned at the stake, imprisoned, die of impoverishment, driven to suicide. Mercy is never a characteristic of certitude and maddened crowd-minds compelled to admire miters, crowns, helmets, wigs of judmentalist soothsayers self-anointed deitific and scientific absolutist perception managers -- also known as spymasters. At 09:31 PM 1/29/2015, Henry Baker wrote: >At 06:30 AM 1/29/2015, John Young wrote: > >https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e > > > >Fascinating research, with gobs of suspects besides TLAs, Brin and Page, > >some here now, some here back then, as suspected then and now. Not > >that there is anything wrong with suspecting cpunks was made similarly. > >In the same vein, but with a bit less tin foil hattery: > >http://steveblank.com/secret-history/

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chinese drunk droner crashes spy into white house
by Troy Benjegerdes 31 Jan '15

31 Jan '15

How did I wake up in a Douglas Adams novel today, did anyone check for vogons? The only way it could be better is if he was drunk on russian vodka. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/01/28/after_white_house_crash_… The only logical explaination for this is someone who knows how completely busted and broken the system has gotten is trying to make a point. It's the complete absurdity of stuff like this that convinces me that no 'vast government conspiracy' could ever survive the organizational incompetence. Or at least, that's what the vogons want me to think.

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Spies LEVITATE infohounds, filesharers, and Glee watchers
by grarpamp 31 Jan '15

31 Jan '15

http://www.cbc.ca/news/cse-tracks-millions-of-downloads-daily-snowden-docum… https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/28/canada-cse-levitation-mass-su… So what do you do if you're a vast global adversary network of old chums, with unlimited resources, a world citizenry that is perhaps becoming unafraid of terrists as background noise, and some might say an authority to keep? Why, sit back and spy on everyday knowledge seekers, file sharers and you tubers of course! Everything cypherpunks were saying in 1984 is coming true. The story continues...

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Re: Cypherpunk Politics
by shelley＠misanthropia.org 31 Jan '15

31 Jan '15

---------- On January 29, 2015 2:32:01 PM Juan <juan.g71(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The judeo-christian western empire, I mean, Civilization, is the > most civilized civilization there is. And we will bomb the shit out of... er, i mean bring our civilized form of capitalistic FREEDOM (and jesus- same thing, amirite?!) to any nation that says otherwise (or, that has oil. Again, same thing...)

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Re: [tor-talk] Tor -> VPN Clarification
by grarpamp 31 Jan '15

31 Jan '15

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Mirimir <mirimir(a)riseup.net> wrote: > JonDoNym / JAP I'm seeing references to this tool pop up recently in various places. Keep in mind the controversie from years ago and read the label on the tin carefully. That's not to say it's not fit for use once you understand its fitness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Anon_Proxy

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Re: Cypherpunk Politics
by Ryan Carboni 30 Jan '15

30 Jan '15

Perhaps the best solution is the final solution. Legalize assassination politics.

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How the CIA Made Google
by John Young 30 Jan '15

30 Jan '15

https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e Fascinating research, with gobs of suspects besides TLAs, Brin and Page, some here now, some here back then, as suspected then and now. Not that there is anything wrong with suspecting cpunks was made similarly.

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Re: [liberationtech] The Future of Security Journalism
by coderman 30 Jan '15

30 Jan '15

On 1/29/15, J.M. Porup <jm(a)porup.com> wrote: > ... If we don't wish to be serfs in the new feudal, digital > world, we need to re-disrupt the disruption, and invent new tools that > ensure human liberty and dignity. ... that time > is short, and the New Dark Age is nearly upon us. as one who is always fond of the question, "what's your threat model?" the implication appears to be two fold: 1. good security journalism, aka "activist journalism", begs forth selective and retributive prosecution through open-ended legislation (CFAA, et. al.) as cover. 2. technical sophistication pursuing these prosecutions is now, thanks to the cyber-industrial-complex, at a point where law enforcement uses techniques recently considered nation state intelligence caliber. thus to pursue "activist security journalism" that is not powers that be sanctioned "mainstream security regurgitation" journalism, your threat model is: securing yourself and your sources against nation state dragnet and targeted attacks, including tailored access and special collection. this is currently considered a "Hard Problem" (TM)(R) even with decades dedicated to the challenge. i do take hope in the fact that most earth humans are not coding to hard problems, but instead to easy, well paying ones. perhaps different incentives will play a bigger role for security?

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Bill Gates is worried about artificial intelligence too
by Georgi Guninski 30 Jan '15

30 Jan '15

http://www.cnet.com/news/bill-gates-is-worried-about-artificial-intelligenc… Microsoft's co-founder and former CEO is the latest luminary from the world of technology and science to warn against the threat of smart machines. ===== My comments: I am worried about _any_ device using anything from M$. So if Gates (who has unorthodoxal opinion about complexity of factoring PRIMES) is _really_ worried about this, he MUST freeze all AI projects at M$. This reminds me of the quote: --- ``It would be fun some day, Turing, to listen to a discussion, say on the Fourth Programme, between two machines on why human beings think that they think! '' --Sir Geoffrey Jefferson (in: `Can Automatic Calculating Machines Be Said to Think?', by M.H.A. Newman et al., a BBC broadcast recorded 10 Jan. 1952, Turing Archives, reprinted in ch. 7 of `The Turing Test', S. Shieber, ed., MIT Press, 2004.) --- http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/quotes.html

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