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The best way to beat an Ashkenazi (White Nationalist edition)
by Yt 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

> Razer g2s at riseup.net > Sun Aug 20 09:23:32 PDT 2017 > > describe ideology in public setting > Easy (pic related): We must secure the existence of our people and a future for our children."" Now get the fuck out, edgynameanon, and take your commie MGTOW friends with you.

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Another "The best way to beat a Nazi" (Rudolph Hess burial place edition)
by Razer 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

"In the small town in Germany where Nazi leader Rudolf Hess was buried, every year right wing activists have been showing up to commemorate his birthday. Counter marches didn't stop them. What really got to them was when people organized to sponsor donations on their behalf, treating their march like an AIDS walk. For every meter marched, there would be 10 euros donated to anti-racist organizations. People then turned it into kind of a sports event as they showed up with banners and music cheering the fascists on like "Thank you for marching for racial justice" and updating with bullhorns how much money the fascists marching had already raised." https://twitter.com/CleveJones1/status/897880400982188032

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The best way to beat a Nazi (White Nationalist edition)
by Razer 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

> The best way to beat a white nationalist is to ask him to sell his > ideology to you in a public setting. Don’t argue with him, just ask > him to describe in public what America would look like if they were in > charge, how they would make that happen, and why it’s something that > people should want. Ask lots of questions and really press him to > explain his vision; make him describe his entire utopia. Who would > have to leave? Where would they go? Who would get to stay? How would > you make that happen? Would there be DNA tests? Has he taken a DNA > test? What precisely is so great about a white ethnostate? What would > happen to food, live music and entertainment? Once you drag their > whole vision out into the light, there are very few people who would > ever find such a vision appealing enough to try and manifest. It does > not sell itself. There’s not much to say there beyond “Uhh… no > thanks.” ~~Caitlin Johnstone https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/some-thoughts-on-charlottesville-b3695e3…

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Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
by Mike Duvos 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

Everyone's favorite Neo-Nazi parody and trolling site, The Daily Stormer, written by Andrew Anglin, has had a bad several days. They published an article calling the road rage victim at the "Unite the Right" rally a "fat childless 32-year-old slut," and the forces of political correctness went wild. GoDaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new domain registrar, and they moved to Google. Google cancelled their registration and froze the domain, preventing them from moving it again, effectively stealing it. They came back up as dailystormer.wang, in Chinese jurisdiction, but that domain was seized after a few hours. They then tried dailystormer.ru, but Cloudflare then dumped them after a Quartz article accused Cloudflare of "Enabling Hate." Twitter then cancelled their status page. They've managed to get an onion address up, at dstormer6em3i4km.onion which points to the few places they haven't been kicked off of yet. With major chunks of important Internet infrastructure in the hands of giant private corporations, who can decline service to anyone at any time for any reason, unpopular speech can get stomped on without it technically being "censorship", which is regulation of speech by the government. Reading The Daily Stormer doesn't make anyone a Nazi, anymore than reading The Landover Baptist Church makes someone a Baptist. It will be interesting to see what happens with the site, because right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl in the free speech forest. -- Mike Duvos mpd(a)wolf359.net

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Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
by Ryan Carboni 20 Aug '17

20 Aug '17

ah yes, you mentioned Nazis in the government? there is a secret society of Nazis tasked by THE Kennedy to protect American democracy. Maybe they are connected with all the Nazis the CIA rescued from WWII? uh.... yeah. after the cubs won the world series, the weirdness only broke free http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/2015/04/inside-the-special-forces-underground/ The legend of the Special Forces Underground reaches back to the same period. The story is that President Kennedy, an outspoken critic of the military-industrial complex, pulled selected Special Forces officers aside when he visited Fort Bragg in October of 1961. In a very informal conversation he asked these officers to promise that if the US military was ever used against the people of the United States the men of the Special Forces would use their very unique training to assist the people. According to the legend, this promise has been passed down through the decades to some of the soldiers wearing the Green Beret today. These men make up what the media and DOD investigations have referred to as “The Special Forces Underground.” http://www.hoover.org/news/hoover-library-acquires-rare-periodical-army-spe…

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Satoshi nakamoto's pre-release draft, does some one have this version?
by mark M 19 Aug '17

19 Aug '17

*Satoshi nakamoto's pre-release draft, does some one have this version? also if there are any other pointers or relevant pre-bitcoin reading material would be great.. thanks* You can download a pre-release draft at http://www.upload.ae/file/ 6157/ecash-pdf.html Feel free to forward it to anyone else you think would be interested. - Satoshi Nakamoto

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My Opinion on Fighting Neo-Nazis and the Future of Free Expression
by Ryan Carboni 19 Aug '17

19 Aug '17

Due to inflation my opinion has increased in value from two to three cents. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/08/fighting-neo-nazis-future-free-expres… This talk about free speech runs contrary to libertarian values about not having borders. Offending people is not protected by the non-aggression principle, and so the risk of people entering a space to experience undesired speech is too great a risk. As the number of rights expand, so must the number of freedoms decrease. It is too far to call the Daily Stormer vitriolic and abusive, it is clearly only in bad taste and puerile. For some reason after the Reagan administration, everyone became more puritan, and no one can even directly discuss any subject matter so I will say it: Calling anyone who died a fat slut is far outside civilized speech, and is certainly not something to be joked about in public. Yes, what GoDaddy, Google, and Cloudflare did was dangerous. So did what Obama did ( https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/02/documents-about-financial-censorship-… ). Yes, it is terrible that states and malicious actors censors others through DDOS attacks, why are DDOS attacks ignored as speech? Those state owned computers should be blocked from the internet. I too agree with net neutrality and think "internet intermediaries" shouldn't make much content based decisions, outside of that needed to maintain service.

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Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?
by juan 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:40:20 -0500 Steven Schear <schear.steve(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed. Atm its almost all gambling. I'm hoping BTC crashes because L2 > scaling is not tested and ready but L2 8MB blocks seem to be solid. well, I don't know how far development of the lightning network has gone, but there's no reason why it can't be further developed to make it "production ready" I would assume. On the other hand, it seem kinda obvious that bitcoin can't handle a lot of small transactions. And it's true that the bigger the blocks get, the more hardware you need to run a validating node and the more centralized the network becomes. Centralization is already pretty bad as far as miners and exchanges are concerned. > A currency can't just be used for gambling and have any lasting > value. Fees are so high on BTC as preclude any use BUT gambling > whereas BCCs are back where BTC was 2 years+ ago. Imagine if USD > could only be used for bank wires and SWIFT settlement. How useful > would it be to most people? Yes, limiting bitcoin to high value transactions, digital gold style, would limit its utility as 'currency'. So the second layer approach can make sense after all... Disclaimer : I don't necessarily trust blockstream either... > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 2:21 PM, juan <juan.g71(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:40:24 -0500 > > Steven Schear <schear.steve(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:30 PM, juan <juan.g71(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:29:54 -0500 > > > > Steven Schear <schear.steve(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > [Disclosure: I am a strong supporter of L1 (Blockchain > > > > > scaling) occurring before any L2 (e.g., Segwit, Blockstream, > > > > > Lightening Network, etc.) is attempted. And even then all L2 > > > > > must be thoroughly examined not only for technical flaws but > > > > > for possible misuses > > > > > > > > > > > > misuses such as? And who is going to do the examination? > > > > > > > > > > For example, Lightning Networks, due to the methods of "channel" > > > controls, can enable fractional reserve of the blockchain assets. > > > > > > As far as I know payment channels only allow you to use the > > amount of btc you transferred to the channel. > > > > OK, maybe it's possible to explicitly create a 'fractional' > > system but that's not how the lightning network protocol is > > supposed to operate. > > > > > > > > > > Members of the community with the technical chops do the exams. > > > However, politics and self-interest being what they are I have > > > little doubt the debates will be 'lively' and degenerate into the > > > usual ad hominem as occurred in the lead up to the current fork. > > > > > > I guess it's a matter of "wait and see". Oh, so BCH price > > has doubled in a couple of days....but I don't think that means much > > since a lot of what's going on in cryptocurrency 'markets' > > is just gambling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: Russian banks, Moscow exchange, to spearhead crypto currencies/ DCs race
by Steven Schear 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Unless its a permissionless blockchain its just hype. Warrant Canary creator On Aug 17, 2017 8:23 PM, "Zenaan Harkness" <zen(a)freedbms.net> wrote: Well, well, well :) I remember when I was a youngish child hearing my significant elders using the phrase "how about those clever Japanese!" in relation to some new SONY Walkman or whatnot. Perhaps the phrase for for our 3rd millennium shall be "how about those rational Russians!" (BTW, since it's a thousand years, not a million years, surely it should be called a thillenium, not a millenium?) ** Russia Turns to Cryptocurrencies to Counter US Sanctions http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click? u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=bd3d211491&e=5110f4b440 https://tomluongo.me/2017/08/13/russia-embrace-blockchain-counter-sanctions/ ------------------------------------------------------------ by Tom Luongo on Wed, Aug 16, 2017 The central depository for the Moscow Exchange, National Settlement Depository (NSD), announced that it is developing a platform to provide accounting services for digital assets like cryptocurrencies. The platform looks to be build a unit of account, very important in the volatile crypto-space, for people to value their assets in and have access to through a wallet platform. In short, the Moscow Exchange is taking a page out of Dan Larimer’s BitShares and its OpenLedger exchange to provide trading and accounting and banking services all validated and accessible through the blockchain.

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Russian banks, Moscow exchange, to spearhead crypto currencies/ DCs race
by Zenaan Harkness 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Well, well, well :) I remember when I was a youngish child hearing my significant elders using the phrase "how about those clever Japanese!" in relation to some new SONY Walkman or whatnot. Perhaps the phrase for for our 3rd millennium shall be "how about those rational Russians!" (BTW, since it's a thousand years, not a million years, surely it should be called a thillenium, not a millenium?) ** Russia Turns to Cryptocurrencies to Counter US Sanctions http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413… https://tomluongo.me/2017/08/13/russia-embrace-blockchain-counter-sanctions/ ------------------------------------------------------------ by Tom Luongo on Wed, Aug 16, 2017 The central depository for the Moscow Exchange, National Settlement Depository (NSD), announced that it is developing a platform to provide accounting services for digital assets like cryptocurrencies. The platform looks to be build a unit of account, very important in the volatile crypto-space, for people to value their assets in and have access to through a wallet platform. In short, the Moscow Exchange is taking a page out of Dan Larimer’s BitShares and its OpenLedger exchange to provide trading and accounting and banking services all validated and accessible through the blockchain.

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