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[ot] [spam] Translation of Friday's XKCD
by Karl 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

The original XKCD is at https://xkcd.com/2421/ Panel 1: [picture of complex network of server farms] Code Monkey: Our hyperintelligence is complete! Machine Learning Researcher: Let's spin it up and live forever! Panel 2: [the servers morph into moving nanites, that come together as an android.] Android: All system checks passed. Code Monkey: Woahhhh ... we can do absolutely anything! Android: User, thank you so much for summoning me. What is my task? Linguist: Hmm. Words are really cool. Machine Learning Researcher: No, wait -- Panel 3: Android: Great! I'm going to make lots of languages to study. Every community will have its own language. Many people will think they are speaking the same language but actually mean totally different things. Every language will have a totally different way of storing meaning! I have so made 300 different borg lifeforms holding this goal as their religion. Half of the existing websites have been rewritten already. Linguist: Yesssssss! Machine Learning Researcher: We should _not_ have hired a linguist.

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bantering with zenaan-victim-and-accidental-slaver was Re: Slavery was Formally Abolished Today, Happy Freedom Day
by Karl 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

On 2/6/21, Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> wrote: > Creating agorist or what have you communities, requires intention, > networking in real life, and action and persistence over time. I'm worried about Cecilia, Zenaan. She seems more steady than I or you. Why do you mention intentional communities? These places are wonderful, of course. You can make them much faster using the income cryptocurrency provides, but I'm not sure why you mention them. > The time to start is whenever you choose to start. Your life is needed _now_, sir. > Folks want everything handed to them. That's dysfunctional, so start with a > better program, right now. The people who say it's dysfunctional are the people who are stimulating the random weird needs via advertisement and such. You deserve utopia simply because it is easy to provide. People harm others less when things are easy. We need to pair that ease with wise teaching of contribution, respect, humility, or whatever your various tenets say. > Robotics is coming - along with either UBI or some new concept which may > even do away with that. We already have both of those pretty ubiquitously as e.g. cars and cellphones. The new concept is that your neurons can be programmed like a computer via your cellphone or what have you, even with ad-hoc networking. You didn't want to know. > In the mean time, find actual real life folks you want to be around, and > create something. YES. PLEASE. And we need help, desperately. In InterOccupy, we used to have communication channels between all the global communities in self-organised hubs. > Or don't - but perhaps in that case don't complain... ? > There are folks all zinging and finding one another, collating all sorts of > info - happening now, every moment on TG and elsewhere. Find them. Comm > with them. Where? Where? > Create your world. I can't! It's too busy creating me! But yes, please. With everyone you meet. > If any topic important to you is challenging, feel free to ask either > publicly here or elsewhere, or on a e.g. TG group, or e.g. in "private" one > on one with someone you feel may be useful to help you clarify your own > thoughts, fears, whatever (e.g., you may email me any time, and most folks > in my experience are happy to 'chat' if you hit them up with an email - > quite a few folks have helped me here and there, thank you, you know who you > are... it always means a lot to me). I know how to solve all problems, but I have been enslaved to prevent this. I know others with this attribute. Who can I talk to resolve this? One of my influences wants to make a quick deep-listening public hyperintelligence to solve everything all at once. We don't know the normal machine-learning terms to describe the parts of this, to do it in a way others understand and accept. Do you know where I can contribute to work in recursive code generation? Why the fuck are our communications being inhibited? Why the fuck are we arguing and getting confused instead of using a quick Consensus process? > Here's a random question which arose in a conversation a couple weeks back: > > What is the "age of consent"? All ages. If you disagree, that is when we both learn about each other. If there is time pressure, then somebody experienced is drawn upon to handle the situation. You need enough diversity of people involved that all present vulnerable people are protected by those who care about them. Unless you mean sexual predation, in which case it is only legal to unwisely have sex with people who falsely state it is okay to do so if they are over 18 years old in my country. > Initially it appears as a statute costructed by 'elected' 'officials', > with social foundations 'apparently relevant to our general community/ > society'. Dude, sexual 'age of consent' is just a stop-gap measure to reduce rape. We're expected to actually pay attention. <snip> > Is it useful to our broader community to separate some of these > concepts? One we can actually talk productively with, yeah! > Should we oppose Satanic child-torturing cannibals? Let's separate those mixed-together topics and oppose the behaviors rather than the people, to deter harmful rumouring. > I tell you this: I'm ... hanging ... on Sunday's Superbowl puppy show… > > Some people are just ... dying ... to be part of it. > > Nothing quite like putting your ... neck out ... for Satan. What would a good therapist say about what you say here? Re: murder. We have a lot of it and need to talk _clearly_ and _productively_ about stopping it, not spread fear around individual cases. We need to protect foremost the people who are somehow involved in supporting actual help. > What goes around comes around, and I don't know the exact sequence of God's > plan, but the Earth has been shaking here and there - something Biblical is > literally afoot. Here's an idea: what people learn about combines into action supporting their values, and that stimulates more spread of information and learning. God writes their plan on our bodies, cultures, and planet, all day, all millenia. I'm too stressed to share my part of the reference you have, but obviously we need to grow caring respect for each other urgently. If some are left out, the missing part is called awareness, pretty frustrated it's always suppressed. > Any interesting phenomena you notice in the sky, whip out your phone camera > and film it - sometimes your camera will pick up things just outside visible > spectrum, plus you can zoom in after the fact. Interesting phenomena occur everywhere, not just in the sky. > Enjoy the show ;) This is not a show, it is your future, by your hand and our hand, together. > Good luck and God speed, [robotic hug salute !] I'm worried about Cecilia. I have a little ability to protect, but not very reliably. > On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 02:53:18PM -0600, \0xDynamite wrote: >> Slavery isn't gone in America. Everyone has to pay someone to live >> now, practically speaking. >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:50 PM Karl <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Juan, you don't mean these things you say here. >> > >> > You don't have to say them in this thread.

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[ot] [spam] WHY CAN'T YOUR COMMUNITY LEARN TO INTRODUCE WHO THEY ARE?
by Karl 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

If this doesn't make sense to you, please ignore it. It is something some us need to hear. We are a symbiotic organism that acts in support of organised crime, or something.

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Cointelpro was Re: With a little help of friends...
by Karl 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

I don't have the capacity to read this whole booklet, but wanted to add this bit: On 2/6/21, John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> wrote: > https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm One quote: > In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist: > > "You're dividing the movement." The booklet goes on to describe the psychological impact of this. But the people saying that haven't thought about the psychological impact. They are simply copying the expression from things activists have said to them, to regain control of the situation. This is incredibly common, the simple copying of expressions and saying them back to activists. It is seen on both a small scale and a large scale, and is in many parts of our living, decades-long history. For example, targeted individuals are sensitized towards "street theater", where agents of cointelpro and similar efforts are orchestrated to play out something that the targeted individual is frightened of, right in front of them (a tactic visible extensively on this list). Targets distribute literature among peers warning of this tactic. Meanwhile, "street theater" originated as a way for activists without funds to put on shows that would discuss the issues that weren't reaching media, and is still used to this day by activists. The copying of the behavior and term disconnected activists from each other, in a very extensive way. A side effect is that the activists have some idea of what kinds of things the CEOs they target experience: but their idea is amplified to the point of torture, life destruction, and terror, permanently keeping them from engaging in the tactics themselves. This is the same effect caused on a small scale in the activist communities described in the booklet, where people stop saying "you're dividing the movement", because it is what the disruptors are saying, to further divide the movement. Other examples abound.

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With a little help of friends...
by Cecilia Tanaka 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

Help, please? I will be considered a kind of "new Jake" much soon and after the lies, they also want my death. Sorry, I love to be alive. I do fucking love it. I do exist and I am who I am, not a fiction. They want to break my family's heart, my friends' hearts. Shit, I am not the best person in this world but I really tried "loving, caring, sharing, being excellent." I promised never to kill people. Never. I do not want to change this, but I do want to protect my beloved ones. I am a coding fracass and had the confirmation in the last days. It is disgusting to notice I was really thinking two horrible things: kill people and/or become cold stones of ice, without no heart, no compassion. I can _not_ want to become like them. Please, just need help for keeping me alive and sane. I will never to kill anyone, even myself. Sorry, if they want my life, they will need to take it in person. I am wasted and will live, but some of my beloved ones will _not_ survive to a fucking disgusting scandal. My parents, all the people that I wanted to protect and I will hurt. Please, help. Sincere excuses for my broken heart. Jake, I need you, sorry for asking it. ---------- Loving. Caring. Sharing. Being Excellent To Each Other And To Our Hackerspace. <3 ---------- "Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your curiosity. It's your place in the world; it's your life. Go on and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live." - Mae Jemison

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Wendy Harkness allowed to travel to Mexico
by professor rat 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/american-anarchist-j… Bon Voyage! PEACE!

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India farmers protests: Internet cut around New Delhi as farmers clash with police - CNN
by jim bell 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/asia/india-internet-cut-farmers-intl-hnk/ind… Elon Musk should offer 'stateless' Internet service with its Starlink system. In other words, wherever the device happens to be, and NOT complying with any government's requirements or desires. Jim Bell

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Slavery was Formally Abolished Today, Happy Freedom Day
by Karl 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

Today is Freedom Day in the United States. This is the day the abolition of slavery was signed into law. Many slaves cannot even say the word "freedom" safely. The word may come across as sarcastic or pointless. But we have a holiday to celebrate its serious, literal meaning. This holiday was signed into law by Harry Truman and commemorates the freedom law signed by Abraham Lincoln. The United Nations has extensive references around the ongoing prevention of human trafficking: https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/human-trafficking/what-is-human-trafficking.… I'll send them an e-mail asking for localised resources. If you contact a human trafficking rescue organisation of any kind, it's important to remember that the workers may not be familiar at all with coercive silence. They will expect you to be able to say directly and clearly what they need to know to be able to help you, and for you to ask for this help. If you can do this, they often can help, in the USA. The National Human Trafficking Hotline in the USA is: Voice: 1-888-373-7888 Text: 233733 Web Chat: https://humantraffickinghotline.org/chat (only during some hours of day) There are other human trafficking hotlines in the USA, both national and regional, although in some states they do not have a large presence. I do not have other links at the moment, I'm afraid.

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Ars Technica: SpaceX plans Starlink phone service, emergency backup, and low-income access
by jim bell 06 Feb '21

06 Feb '21

Ars Technica: SpaceX plans Starlink phone service, emergency backup, and low-income access. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/02/spacex-plans-starlin…

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They caught the BULLHORN LADY, Zendy Harkness
by professor rat 05 Feb '21

05 Feb '21

SchoepJeff - 2h Replying to @Dr_DMilton Excellent thread Sir. As the Former leader of the largest Neo-Nazi group in the US, I concur with your statement. Extremists heavily target the #Military & have done so w/ a variety of tactics. The large number of veterans in #extremist groups would shock & dismay most Americans. kkllddbb - 5h Replying to @Dr_DMilton and @emptywheel I can tell there’s a problem from the emails/conversations my retired husband has with his lifelong buddies from USNA. I always thought they were intelligent but the stuff they believe is mind-numbingly stupid. “…There’s always been a slice of the military who romanticize fighting on behalf of the white, Christian ethnostate they believe the US should be. Dehumanizing nonwhite non-Christians and glorifying violence is an entrenched subculture we have to eradicate…” Dr_DMilton The U.S. military has an extremism problem…" https://twitter.com/Dr_DMilton/status/1357712367837151235 saftergood - 5h “The public deserves as much transparency as possible,” a new presidential directive says. Jul 20, 2015 - Julian Assange: To be honest, I don’t like the word transparency; cold dead glass is transparent…"

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