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Some anarchists won't defend propaganda of the deed
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

Just as some cypherpunks won't defend cryptoanarchism ( which includes APster ) The general sentiment of mankind is that a man who will not fight for himself, when he has the means of doing so, is not worth being fought for by others, and this sentiment is just. For a man who does not value freedom for himself will never value it for others, or put himself to any inconvenience to gain it for others. Such a man, the world says, may lie down until he has sense enough to stand up ..." https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1857-frederick-douglass-… I find these anarchists and cypherpunks so weak and worthless as to be undeserving of our good name.

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On the anarchist internet no-one knows your disability
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

Seeing how CJ, myself and Karl are on a spectrum of psychiatric diagnosis we might try an anti-ablist corner for this list. Something I've tried to fight in the broader anarchist milieu is this false binary of good street-fighting insurrectionist vs ' doing nothing ' online activist. Truth is netwarfare is the best and most ergonomic weapon we have and anyone who can move a cursor can take a leadership position in it. Its by no means second rate! And psychiatric diagnosis can also provide plausibility since your movement lawyer may say your violent death threats to strangle Bill Gates was simply a ' cry for help '.

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HELP us fight globalized cyber surveillance and geolocation
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

I found this valuable message left by a group of people struggling to help. I think it could help others, too..." Thank you Karl. Your help is greatly appreciated. When we're on the ramparts of the cyber-equivalent of Fort Zindernuef we need all hands on deck. And some-one on the tower.

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Peiter Zatko needs killing ( My 200$ )
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

IF you can make a case for this perp then I might be willing to change it to a kneecapping. You seem to think the rotten guilty criminal scumbag fascist pig somehow made APster possible. Okay - prove it. Armed with ' professor Google ' and your unique insight this ought to be a snack. Take your time, too. I want to kill Dorsey first anyway.

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Use of assassinphone's recommended
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

Its just silly to say Hackers alone created the basis for AP I'm not interested in defending something that is obviously just a way to throw dirt on a community mostly unrelated to it..." - Karl Jim didn't object violently when I called APster ' the social hack of the century ' . So I'm not throwing dirt on any hackerspace community. I thought it was obvious - I was throwing dirt on a traitor to the hacker cause. Mitnick was wild - until he went to work for Quantico. And many great discoveries are co-discoveries - even if Hanson's work was top-secret.

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Standalone APster
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

Crypto-currencies - even when they're worth trillions instead of billions and all c-punks will be automatic millionaires - will always only ever be a smaller part of a larger cryptoanarchist economy. An important part of our future will also depend on information and assassination markets to uphold law and order. We can't be distracted by attacks on them of spurious emotional grounds. Such as many peoples natural aversion for charlatans like Sigmund Freud, David Friedman, Julian Assmange, Jeff Berwick, Rand Paul, Jeff Tucker and similar. The fact some cypherpunks / cryptoanarchists are carpetbagging opportunists and criminals can't deter us from our lofty goal of a new world order. This is why we're going to 'clean house ' before the big launch. Jim did over ten years so I don't want to hear any more small, change shit. We're going to make this list live, breathe and JUMP again like it used to. Welcome to the revolution.

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Peiter Zatko needs killing ( My 200$ )
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

Its simply not true to say AP relied on hackers of any sort. Corporate suits were working on prediction markets from very early on - Sear " Robin Hanson ' . Sometimes I wonder if Karl's illness might be effecting his judgement of what are true facts and what is ' signal ' compared to what is ' noise '. If he has any friends they might want to arrange an intervention.

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Use of assassinphone's recommended
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

No. Anarchism starts less than two centuries ago. 1840's - 1940's - 2040's. > Come back around 2044. Governments are younger than freedom. Hail, hail Freedonia. Assassination politics is not ' war by assassination ' ( Filiss ) https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/john-filiss-war-by-assassination >> If you can't stand the heat then get off the cryptoanarchist internet. > > This makes no sense. > > Okay - " If you can't stand the heat then get out of the cypherpunk kitchen > ". This list doesn't seem very cryptopunk nowadays. Come back in 2027. I'll have all the old mustache Pete's in a waxworks museum by then.

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Use of assassinphone's recommended
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

> And the basic idea of politics is to displace and replace all war. Yes? I'm not aware of that? How about " War is the continuation of politics by other means " ? Clausewitz. Or - " Better Jaw, Jaw, Jaw than War War War " - Churchill > For centuries the words ' democrat ' and ' democracy ' were political > swear-words. Why do you mention one political party and not the other? Its a generalization? You could read it the same way with ' Republic ' and ' Republican ' if you want. > Now its the turn of ' anarchy ' and ' anarchist '. Heads up. That's centuries old. No. Anarchism starts less than two centuries ago. 1840's - 1940's - 2040's. Come back around 2044. > If you can't stand the heat then get off the cryptoanarchist internet. This makes no sense. Okay - " If you can't stand the heat then get out of the cypherpunk kitchen ".

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History of c-punk repression
by professor rat 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

"...Several c-punks have been jailed and had list activities . mentioned in prosecutions. I wasn't aware of that, not being a strong member of the list here. Are you able to refer to anything specific? ..." Check the archives from 1995 - 2004 Agencies directly involved included the IRS, US Secret Service, ASIO, the AFP and state police. LEO's on two continents on other sides of the world. APster went global in 2001 - partly as a homage to Artie C. Clark. https://www.wired.com/2001/05/online-cincy-cop-threats-probed/

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