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Apple Co-Founder Asks To Revive Scam Suit Against YouTube
by Gunnar Larson 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

>From our research, it was a senior Apple engineer who was behind the programming of NYCCoin and MIA Coin. In other news: ----- Apple Co-Founder Asks To Revive Scam Suit Against YouTube <https://www.law360.com/fintech/articles/1784010?nl_pk=d2b3e7ef-ab62-4a62-80…> By Bonnie Eslinger Counsel for Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak on Tuesday urged a California appeals court to revive his lawsuit accusing YouTube and parent company Google of contributing to a cryptocurrency scheme that fraudulently used his image, saying the tech giants promoted the scam videos, including allowing false verification of channels carrying the videos. Read full article » <https://www.law360.com/fintech/articles/1784010?nl_pk=d2b3e7ef-ab62-4a62-80…> | Save to favorites » <https://www.law360.com/fintech/articles/1784010?nl_pk=d2b3e7ef-ab62-4a62-80…>

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Ghislaine Maxwell Prosecutor In SDNY Joins Sher Tremonte
by Gunnar Larson 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

Ghislaine Maxwell Prosecutor In SDNY Joins Sher Tremonte <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1784048?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…> By Gina Kim Sher Tremonte announced Tuesday the addition of Alison Moe, a former Southern District of New York prosecutor who made headlines in recent years prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and "We Build The Wall" campaign fundraisers, to the firm's white-collar defense and investigations practice as a partner. Read full article » <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1784048?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…> | Save to favorites » <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1784048?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…>

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DLA Piper Accused Of Hoarding Docs In Pregnancy Bias Suit
by Gunnar Larson 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

DLA Piper Accused Of Hoarding Docs In Pregnancy Bias Suit <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1783894?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…> By Andrea Keckley A former DLA Piper attorney told a New York federal court that the firm is improperly withholding documents in her pregnancy bias suit in a Monday request for a discovery conference. Letter attached | Read full article » <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1783894?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…> | Save to favorites » <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1783894?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…>

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Glencore Denies Hiding Bribery Scheme From Investors
by Gunnar Larson 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

Glencore Denies Hiding Bribery Scheme From Investors <https://www.law360.co.uk/financial-services-uk/articles/1776730?nl_pk=a94fc…> By Eddie Beaver Glencore PLC has denied owing investors compensation for failing to disclose it orchestrated a global bribery scheme during an initial public offering that raised $10 billion, telling a London court that none of its board of directors was aware of any misconduct at the time. Read full article » <https://www.law360.co.uk/financial-services-uk/articles/1776730?nl_pk=a94fc…> | Save to favorites » <https://www.law360.co.uk/financial-services-uk/articles/1776730?nl_pk=a94fc…>

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Trump Can't Inquire About Carroll's Litigation Funding At Trial
by Gunnar Larson 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

Trump Can't Inquire About Carroll's Litigation Funding At Trial <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1784082?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…> By Dorothy Atkins A New York federal judge on Tuesday mostly sided with writer E. Jean Carroll on multiple evidentiary issues in her defamation fight with former President Donald Trump, barring Trump from asking about her litigation funding and allowing Carroll to show jurors Trump's now-infamous "Access Hollywood" interview in an upcoming damages trial. Memorandum attached | Read full article » <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1784082?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…> | Save to favorites » <https://www.law360.com/newyork/articles/1784082?nl_pk=ac5a3855-e47c-4403-be…>

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[OpenRecords] Request FOIL-2023-056-15960 Acknowledged NYPD body cam footage, for NYCCoin Touting.)
by Gunnar Larson 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Gunnar Larson <g(a)xny.io> Date: Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [OpenRecords] Request FOIL-2023-056-15960 Acknowledged NYPD body cam footage, for NYCCoin Touting.) To: IABCMDCNTR <IABCMDCNTR(a)nypd.org> Cc: <cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org>, ethics.sm.records <records(a)ethics.ny.gov>, < ethel(a)jcrope.ny.gov>, <letitia.james(a)ag.ny.gov>, Harris, Adrienne A (DFS) < Adrienne.Harris(a)dfs.ny.gov>, <PressOffice(a)cityhall.nyc.gov>, Reader, Shaun < sreader(a)curtis.com>, <district3(a)council.nyc.gov> Good morning NYPD: Thank you for your Jul 16, 2023 response. xNY.io - Bank.org did not hear from you on November 29, 2023 as promised. Given the emerging situation in USA cryptocurrency markets, we are going to need to follow up with the NYPD every 10 days until we receive the NYCCoin touting body camera footage. Can you please update xNY.io - Bank.org on the status of the footage? We have received various replies from the City of New York on Mayor Adams' 'first checks in Bitcoin' mentioned here: https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/041-22/mayor-adams-receive-fir… . Have a good day. Thank you, Gunnar -- Gunnar Larson xNY.io | Bank.org MSc - Digital Currency MBA - Entrepreneurship and Innovation (ip) G(a)xNY.io +1-917-580-8053 New York, New York 10001 On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, 6:41 AM Gunnar Larson <g(a)xny.io> wrote: > Good morning: > > Happy New Year 2024 to you. > > Can we please have an update on this matter? > > Thank you, > > Gunnar > > -- > Gunnar Larson > xNY.io | Bank.org > MSc - Digital Currency > MBA - Entrepreneurship and Innovation (ip) > > G(a)xNY.io > +1-917-580-8053 > New York, New York 10001 > > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2023, 3:51 PM Gunnar Larson <g(a)xny.io> wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> Thank you for your Jul 16, 2023 response. >> >> xNY.io - Bank.org did not hear from you on >> November 29, 2023 as promised. >> >> Can xNY.io - Bank.org please receive the >> NYPD body cam footage for NYCCoin Touting by December 31, 2023? >> >> Warm regards, >> >> Gunnar >> >> Gunnar Larson >> -- >> Gunnar Larson - xNY.io - Bank.org >> MSc - Digital Currency >> MBA - Entrepreneurship and Innovation (ip) >> >> G(a)xNY.io >> +1-917-580-8053 >> New York, New York 10001 >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 11:11 AM Gunnar Larson <g(a)xny.io> wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> Any updates on the body camera footage mentioned below? >>> >>> Gunnar >>> >>> Gunnar Larson >>> xNY.io - Bank.org >>> 917-580-8093 >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023, 7:10 AM Gunnar Larson <g(a)xny.io> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Madam or Sir: >>>> >>>> I am just confirming that the NYCCoin body camera footage is still on >>>> track for November 29, 2023 delivery. Can you confirm as such please? >>>> >>>> The matter was recorded late March 2023. And xNY.io - Bank.org must >>>> close our EOY-23 books. >>>> >>>> Any further delay of the body camera footage could be a challenge to >>>> N.Y. Executive Law, Article 15 >>>> Human Rights Law, § 296. Unlawful discriminatory practices: >>>> >>>> 14. ... whether or not accompanied by the >>>> person for whom the dog is being trained. >>>> >>>> 16. It shall be an unlawful discriminatory practice, unless >>>> specifically required or permitted by statute, for any person, agency, >>>> bureau, corporation or association, including the state and any political >>>> subdivision thereof, to make any inquiry about, whether in any form of >>>> application or >>>> otherwise, or to act upon adversely to the individual involved, any >>>> arrest or criminal accusation of such individual not then pending against >>>> that individual which was followed by a termination of that criminal action >>>> or proceeding in favor of such individual, as defined in subdivision two of >>>> section 160.50 of the criminal procedure law, or by an order adjourning >>>> the criminal action in contemplation of dismissal, pursuant to section >>>> 170.55, 170.56, 210.46, 210.47, or 215.10 of the criminal procedure law, or >>>> by a youthful offender adjudication, as defined in subdivision one of >>>> section 720.35 of the criminal procedure law, or by a conviction for a >>>> violation sealed pursuant to section 160.55 of the criminal procedure law >>>> or by a conviction which is sealed pursuant to section 160.59 or 160.58 of >>>> the criminal procedure law, in connection with the licensing, housing, >>>> employment, including volunteer positions, or providing of credit or >>>> insurance to such individual; provided, further, that no person shall be >>>> required to divulge information pertaining to any arrest or criminal >>>> accusation of such individual not then pending against that individual >>>> which was followed by a termination of that criminal action or proceeding >>>> in favor of such individual, as defined in subdivision two of section >>>> 160.50 of the criminal procedure law, or by an order adjourning the >>>> criminal action in contemplation of dismissal, pursuant to section 170.55, >>>> 170.56, 210.46, 210.47, or 215.10 of the criminal procedure law, or by a >>>> youthful offender adjudication, as defined in subdivision one of section >>>> 720.35 of the criminal procedure law, or by >>>> a conviction for a violation sealed pursuant to section 160.55 of the >>>> criminal procedure law, or by a conviction which is sealed pursuant to >>>> section 160.58 or 160.59 of the criminal procedure law. An individual >>>> required or requested to provide information in violation of this >>>> subdivision >>>> may respond as if the arrest, criminal accusation, or disposition of >>>> such arrest or criminal accusation did not occur. The provisions of this >>>> subdivision shall not apply to the licensing activities of governmental >>>> bodies in relation to the regulation of guns, firearms and other deadly >>>> weapons or in relation to an application for employment as a police officer >>>> or peace officer as those terms are defined in subdivisions thirty-three >>>> and thirty-four of section 1.20 of the criminal >>>> procedure law; provided further that the provisions of this subdivision >>>> shall not apply to an application for employment or membership in any law >>>> enforcement agency with respect to any arrest or criminal accusation which >>>> was followed by a youthful offender adjudication, as defined >>>> in subdivision one of section 720.35 of the criminal procedure law, or >>>> by a conviction for a violation sealed pursuant to section 160.55 of the >>>> criminal procedure law, or by a conviction which is sealed pursuant to >>>> section 160.58 or 160.59 of the criminal procedure law. For purposes of >>>> this subdivision, an action which has been adjourned in contemplation of >>>> dismissal, pursuant to section 170.55 or 170.56, 210.46, 210.47 or 215.10 >>>> of the criminal procedure law, shall not be >>>> considered a pending action, unless the order to adjourn in >>>> contemplation of dismissal is revoked and the case is restored to the >>>> calendar for further prosecution. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> Gunnar >>>> >>>> Gunnar Larson >>>> xNY.io - Bank.org >>>> 917-580-8053 >>>> >>>> n, Jul 16, 2023, 11:03 AM IABCMDCNTR <IABCMDCNTR(a)nypd.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mr. Larson, >>>>> >>>>> The FOIL request you requested was acknowledged and a response will be on >>>>> or about Wednesday, November 29, 2023. They will follow-up with your >>>>> request. If the request is denied, and you would like to file a complaint, >>>>> we will assist you. Have a good day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *COMMAND CENTER, INTERNAL AFFAIRS BUREAU * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This e-mail message and any attachment(s) is intended only for the >>>>> person and/or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL >>>>> or PRIVILEGED material. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >>>>> distribution is strictly prohibited and may violate applicable laws >>>>> including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the >>>>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >>>>> delete/destroy all copies of the original message. If you are the intended >>>>> recipient but do not wish to receive communications through this medium, >>>>> please so advise the sender immediately. Please treat this and all other >>>>> communications from the New York City Police Department as LAW ENFORCEMENT >>>>> SENSITIVE / FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY. NO REPORT OR SEGMENT THEREOF MAY BE >>>>> RELEASED TO ANY MEDIA SOURCES. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Gunnar Larson <g(a)xny.io> >>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 16, 2023 10:56 AM >>>>> *To:* FDSHelpDesk(a)ethics.ny.gov <FDSHelpDesk(a)ethics.ny.gov>; >>>>> ethel(a)jcrope.ny.gov <ethel(a)jcrope.ny.gov>; IABCMDCNTR < >>>>> IABCMDCNTR(a)nypd.org> >>>>> *Cc:* letitia.james(a)ag.ny.gov <letitia.james(a)ag.ny.gov>; >>>>> cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org <cypherpunks(a)cpunks.org>; Harris, Adrienne A >>>>> (DFS) <Adrienne.Harris(a)dfs.ny.gov> >>>>> *Subject:* Fwd: [OpenRecords] Request FOIL-2023-056-15960 Acknowledged >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *CAUTION! EXTERNAL SENDER* >>>>> >>>>> *STOP WHEN UNSURE.* Never click on links or open attachments if >>>>> sender is unknown, and never provide user ID or password. >>>>> *Suspicious?* Please report to this email address: >>>>> reportphishing(a)nypd.org >>>>> >>>>> Dear New York Ethics Team: >>>>> >>>>> I am concerned that the FOIL below is subject to obstruction of >>>>> justice. >>>>> >>>>> The FOIL request is for access to NYPD body cam footage, for NYCCoin >>>>> Touting. >>>>> >>>>> Ethics Team, I am concerned that the Chief of your office is also the >>>>> Chief of the City Mayor's office. >>>>> >>>>> The body cam footage should have an agreeable time for delivery. I am >>>>> concerned that the Mayor is retaliating against NYCoin and the NYPD may be >>>>> aware of this. >>>>> >>>>> The video would or would not delineate any form of unnecessary force. >>>>> The NYPD may be aware of this. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously, xNY is very protective of digital asset innovation. Ethics >>>>> is a serious matter and the body cam footage would be helpful concerning >>>>> NYCCoin. >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Gunnar >>>>> >>>>> Gunnar Larson >>>>> xNY.io - Bank.org >>>>> 917-580-8053 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: <donotreply(a)records.nyc.gov> >>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2023, 12:25 PM >>>>> Subject: [OpenRecords] Request FOIL-2023-056-15960 Acknowledged >>>>> To: <g(a)xny.io> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The New York City Police Department (NYPD) has *acknowledged* your >>>>> FOIL request FOIL-2023-056-15960 >>>>> <https://a860-openrecords.nyc.gov/request/view/FOIL-2023-056-15960>. >>>>> >>>>> You can expect a response on or about Wednesday, November 29, 2023. >>>>> Additional Information: >>>>> >>>>> Your request has been assigned to PAA Quagliano (646-610-5296) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please visit FOIL-2023-056-15960 >>>>> <https://a860-openrecords.nyc.gov/request/view/FOIL-2023-056-15960> >>>>> to view additional information and take any necessary action. >>>>> >>>>

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Cryptocurrency: Gemini Winklevoss Caught Up In Political CensorBanning Accounts re Chabad Sewer Jew Tunnels
by grarpamp 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/01/10/synagogue-new-york-tunnel… https://twitter.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1744545987618545796 https://twitter.com/SpaghettiBoyX69 https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones Rebecca @Blondes_tweets Jan 9 @Gemini has closed my account for political reasons, and has made it impossible to withdrawal my funds (it has given me 5 days or funds are retained) by giving me repeated error messages when I try to verify any bank (which takes more than 5 days), checking account, PayPal, or any mode of withdrawal that they allow. PLEASE rt to @GeminiSupport; they're trying to retain my entire balance. DO NOT USE @GEMINI. They can take your funds without warning and refuse to release them to you through repeated error messages. Rebecca @Blondes_tweets Jan 9 Replying to @rvolt24 @Gemini @GeminiSupport They also have locked my account so I cannot verify any avenue to withdrawal the money. I get repeated errors so that I cannot verify my checking account, PayPal, Plaid, or any other checking account or debit card from ANY bank- this is an attempt for them to keep the balance. Jan 9, 2024 · 2:38 AM UTC @Blondes_tweets Jan 9 I would also like to know but @GeminiSupport will not get back to me and I have not heard back from my technical support questions. My guess is that they will delay answering until my 5 day limit is up and they will retain the fiat currency in my account. @Blondes_tweets Jan 9 What a bunch of pussies ⁦@Gemini⁩ Rebecca @Blondes_tweets 11h Why is being a huge pussy some kind of flex? I wonder if “long covid” is responsible for his short penis… Rebecca @Blondes_tweets Jan 9 Replying to @BasedTorba @tyler Same, and @GeminiSupport has disabled my ability to withdraw the USD in the account. I cannot get ahold of anyone Andrew Torba @BasedTorba Jan 9 Just got banned from Gemini, which I have been using for years to buy bitcoin, for no reason stated. @tyler What's the deal here? Not using the account for processing or anything just low volume stacking of sats personally. Jan 9, 2024 · 3:35 AM UTC Andrew Torba @BasedTorba 7h The kind folks at @River reached out and said they’d be glad to have me. Much appreciated. river.com/signup?r=TJBPWVYJ Andrew Torba @BasedTorba 14h Pay attention to who is talking about the tunnels and who isn’t. Andrew Torba @BasedTorba 16h Substack says it will remove Nazi publications from the platform Andrew Torba @BasedTorba Jan 7 “If successful, Torba’s work on AI could prove to be one of the most significant and relevant things anyone has done for the freedom movement.” https://thenewamerican.com/opinion/how-the-dissident-right-can-use-ai-for-g…

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Epoch Times considered harmful
by pro2rat＠yahoo.com.au 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

The Epoch Times is a far-right international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. All GIGO all the time. Now what sort of degenerate moron would ever try to dump such rotten, stinking rubbish here of all places! They would have to be complete coward as well as a total idiot too. Otherwise they would soon be as exposed as FBI agent Karl Semich and Bloomberg shill, Gunnar Larson. Doxxed, Ddossed and destroyed. Fools and their reputation capital are soon parted. Happy trails, Gramps. Don't wait for the gong.

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Collapse: Is Now Locked In
by grarpamp 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

A random blurb on overpopulation, resources, stupid Govts and Peoples... http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2021/12/can-any-nation-state-survive-e… Can Any Nation-State Survive The Era Of Inequality And Scarcity? We have an extraordinary opportunity to transform our unsustainable "waste is growth" economy and toxic inequality to sustainable systems that optimize well-being rather than collapse. The possibility that the United States could fragment is no longer a marginalized topic. Maps displaying various post-U.S. regional configurations accompany essays exploring how and why a break-up of the U.S. would be a solution to regional and ideological polarization, for example, Max Borders' recent article, Dear America: It's Time to Break Up. But two forces larger than political polarization may fragment nation-states across the globe, including the U.S.: inequality and scarcity. Inequality and corruption go hand in hand, of course, as the wealthiest few influence the state to protect their monopolies and backstop their speculative gains. Inequality also goes hand in hand with the collapse of nation-states, as this seminal paper explains: Human and nature dynamics (HANDY): Modeling inequality and use of resources in the collapse or sustainability of societies. The parasitic elite can accumulate the majority of income, wealth, political power and resources in eras of expanding abundance, as what's left is enough to support an expanding populace that consumes more per capita every year, i.e. broad-based prosperity. But once abundance transitions to scarcity, the economy and society can no longer sustain the dead weight of its outsized parasitic elite. The parasitic elite believes its bloated share of resources, wealth and power is not only sustainable but can be expanded without consequence, and so it deploys all its formidable power to keep the status quo unchanged even as scarcity lowers the living standards of the bottom 90% and hollows out the economy. In effect, the modern central state, regardless of ideological label, optimizes inequality and growth. Once growth falters while inequality continues increasing, the only possible outcome is fragmentation and/or collapse. Put another way: the status quo is no longer the solution to inequality and scarcity, it is the problem. Private-sector and political elites are incapable of recognizing they are now the problem, and so the rapid unraveling of the status quo will come as a great shock to their magical-thinking confidence in their power. The elite's delusional "solution" is a seamless, painless transition to a new era of abundance via "green energy." Unfortunately, this vision is 100% magical thinking, as all these projections ignore the physical realities of building out a global energy system that generates energy on the same scale as existing hydrocarbon energy sources. Read these three reports for reality-based assessments: The "New Energy Economy": An Exercise in Magical Thinking (manhattan-institute.org) The Delusion of Infinite Economic Growth: Even "sustainable" technologies such as electric vehicles and wind turbines face unbreachable physical limits and exact grave environmental costs. (scientificamerican.com) Assessment of the Extra Capacity Required of Alternative Energy Electrical Power Systems to Completely Replace Fossil Fuels (PDF, Simon P. Michaux, Geological Survey of Finland) Read the 3-page abstract. As explained in the first paper, inequality generates collapse and so does a decline in resources, i.e. scarcity. Put the two together and the only possible outcome is collapse of all centralized nation-states that optimize inequality and endless expansion of consumption. The issue isn't ideological labels or principles, it's whether the state solves problems or covers them up with fake fixes that accelerate collapse. Nations which want to not just survive but emerge stronger have one path: a revolutionary transformation from "waste is growth" to degrowth, from an economy and state dominated by a parasitic elite to a strictly limited parasitic elite and from abject dependence on fragile supply chains originating in other nations to decentralized, localized independence for essentials. I've written a book that is a template for this transformation. This book is the culmination of a lifetime of study, observation, experience and analysis: Global Crisis, National Renewal: A (Revolutionary) Grand Strategy for the United States. Though I devote some analysis specifically to the U.S., the book is a template for any nation to not just survive scarcity but emerge stronger by evolving a degrowth economy and a decentralized political order. We have an extraordinary opportunity to transform our unsustainable "waste is growth" economy and toxic inequality to sustainable systems that optimize well-being rather than collapse.

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Coronavirus: Thread
by grarpamp 10 Jan '24

10 Jan '24

On 3/5/20, Georgi Guninski <guninski(a)guninski.com> wrote: > Is the so called "society" ready for the time when there > are not enough hospitals for ill from corona virus? > > AFAIK all ill from corona virus are sent to hospitals > to not spread the disease further. > > The Chinese built a new hospital for about a week. General purpose hospital is utterly stupid thing to be flooding cases into under a mass affliction. Hospital are general triage and specialized case facilities. Flood them with disease transmitters and you end up wiping out the entire staff thus shutting the entire hospital down. Staff and facilities are far more valuable alive to handle the random shit that shows up at hospitals and do the specialized things. Instead focus care efficiently tuned to the mass affliction by diverting all the diseased people away from hospitals and out to warehouses, cruise ships, new rapid builds, etc full of cots, food service, mass produced respirators and other med gear and supplies, tv's, internet, books, showers, tent farms, drywalled family rooms inside, etc. Everybody there is already afflicted with the single underlying issue, so train them to self care and peer care for that, same as they'd get in the flooded out hospitals for that issue. Then move whatever number you can handle out to more complex "hospital" treatment sections of the same isolation farms as needed. And accept that big losses will happen. Flooding your hospitals is *not* going to change that, and *will* make things worse. Trying to wipe out all your hospitals, all your doctors, surgeons, knowledge, etc... is not smart. Civilization shutdown its mass facilities, wrote off and forgot how to deal with massive single cause casualties since 70 years quiet since last big wars, and other causes on that scale, many of which were easy... "stop the bleeding"... not "do not catch it too" kind of pandemic hasn't really been seen in 100+ years. Now all you have left in cities of *millions* of people, is under 500 beds total worth of proper isolation wards, those are largely meant for holding new unknown bugs and the recurring background noise of known nasties, with all other space on hospital land dedicated to five star baby birthing hotels, trendy cancer shops, pointless architectural atriums, big office rooms, etc. And all other space in the cities completely tuned to commercial purposes. With zero durables supply stockpiles, and no excess production capacity maintained on decade[s] span cold standby... because "just in time" wiped all that out. Deadly contagion is fucked up, expect that. You should have. People warned you. Oldnews Protip: Think, prepare, options, then you can isolate yourselves from people, buy some time, ride some things out. https://old.reddit.com/r/preppers+prepping+supplychain/

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