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Anti War: Thread
by grarpamp 18 Oct '23

18 Oct '23

Because the world may be getting closer to some sort of real war, and because among some cypherpunk cadres are claims that crypto solves for everything... the great diviner of truth, and decider of right from wrong. https://www.antiwar.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-war_movement Ex-CIA Officer Asks: What Happens When America Experiences Real War With A Superpower? https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/vietnam-regurgitated/ During my first years as a young CIA officer in Vietnam from 1965-67, I went to school (so to speak) and received the real education of my life. I learned about my government, its politicians, and military leaders. I learned about the lies, the high explosive and chemical bombings, our superior fire power, villages bombed and burned, the payoffs we made to our ranking Vietnamese allies and the reasons for our losing the war. The enemy fought to unite their country and expel foreign domination. The US fought because of corrupt leadership and our losses were a mere fraction being fought on the enemy’s turf with our superior fire power, money and material support. They fought for a cause. We fought for no justifiable reason. They won. We did not. AP image: Napalm strike near US troops on patrol in South Vietnam, 1966. Remember the body bags displayed on the tarmacs of our returning dead from Vietnam? Not like the lack of media coverage today given the damage we inflict. Remember the disapproving reception of our returning soldiers? Now we celebrate them as heroes and wounded patriots. Here, at home, we have not experienced wars employing mass-destruction weapons. Maybe one day will we receive an education about the consequences of wars as a nation. Surely, we learned nothing from Vietnam as it never happened here. Our commitment to the two-decade, multi-country invasions in the Middle East have shown our cowardliness to the world if not to ourselves. Our hypocrisy is stunning. No draft, no engagement (almost no KIA’s each year). Far more troop suicides than battle deaths while displacing, killing and maiming thousands of innocent civilian lives year after year. For whom and what? And, yes, a media in full march step with these disgraceful invasions and occupations. Remember the uproar about Vietnam? Burned draft cards, asylum in Canada, draft dodgers, street demonstrations and sit-ins galore. And why not these now? The unending, shameful action by our government is making sure the public is not paying a price in people. No draft, very limited engagement with the enemy and an approving media. What more can our government and Pentagon ask for? We will keep dropping bombs and feeding others money and weapons to assist with the killing and displacing of innocent populations for us. But are these wars really for us? Certainly not. Remember George W. Bush, and his failing presidency, who was made a hero the morning after 9/11 with his WMD declaration that fooled no one but Americans? Not a sound from the citizenry. Would we try the pitiful WMD routine on China or Russia? They have the ability to hit back. The national celebration that greeted George H.W. Bush in death is a far cry from his presidency. It was not until after 9/11 that George W. Bush obeyed the lobbies’ demands to destroy Iraq that his father was resurrected and the son was hailed as our glorious leader. Remember his welcoming carrier landing which turned out to be a dud? These wars that we persist with are not only cowardly, they demonstrate our lack of respect for other nations, their people and our national conscience. Notably, they demonstrate our being a failed nation not capable of controlling or directing its own interests. We will go down in history as that most powerful, but most surrogate nation ever. Stunningly shameful with the blood of others staining our once proud national emblem. While we busy ourselves with "enemies" that we and "friendly" others have invented, we have become oblivious to the enemy within. The one taking us down.

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[ot][spam]gpt-4 completions
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 14 Oct '23

14 Oct '23

metadata: spellbook.scale.com? free api, max length 4000 tokens temperature 0 2023-03-17 07:06:01 { "input": "Once upon a time," } in a small village nestled between the rolling hills and dense forests, there lived a young girl named Amara. She was a kind and gentle soul, always eager to help others and spread joy wherever she went. Amara lived with her loving parents and her younger brother, who looked up to her with great admiration. The village was a peaceful and close-knit community, where everyone knew each other and worked together to ensure the well-being of all. The villagers were skilled in various crafts, from pottery to weaving, and they traded their goods with neighboring villages. One day, while Amara was walking through the forest to gather berries for her family, she stumbled upon a small, injured bird. Its wing was broken, and it was unable to fly. Amara's heart went out to the poor creature, and she carefully picked it up and carried it back to her home. With her mother's help, Amara nursed the bird back to health, feeding it and tending to its broken wing. Over time, the bird grew stronger, and its wing healed. Amara and the bird formed a deep bond, and it would follow her wherever she went, perching on her shoulder and singing sweet melodies. One day, as Amara and the bird were walking through the village, they came across a group of children who were playing by the river. The children were trying to catch fish with their bare hands, but they were having little success. Amara, always eager to help, approached the children and offered to teach them a better way to catch fish. Using her knowledge of the river and the fish that lived there, Amara showed the children how to weave a simple net from the tall grasses that grew along the riverbank. With this net, the children were able to catch more fish than they ever had before, and they were overjoyed. Word of Amara's kindness and wisdom spread throughout the village, and soon, people from all walks of life were coming to her for advice and assistance. She helped the farmers improve their crops, the potters refine their techniques, and the weavers create more intricate patterns. As the years passed, Amara's reputation grew, and she became known far and wide as a wise and compassionate leader. The village prospered under her guidance, and the people were happy and content. One day, a traveler from a distant land arrived in the village, bearing news of a terrible drought that was plaguing his homeland. The people were suffering, and their crops were failing. The traveler had heard of Amara's wisdom and had come to seek her help. Amara, moved by the traveler's tale, decided to journey to the distant land to see if she could help the people there. Accompanied by her faithful bird and a small group of villagers, Amara set off on the long and arduous journey. When they finally arrived in the drought-stricken land, Amara was shocked by the devastation she saw. The fields were barren, the rivers were dry, and the people were weak and hungry. Determined to help, Amara set to work, teaching the people new farming techniques and helping them dig wells to find water. Slowly but surely, the land began to recover. The crops grew, the rivers flowed, and the people regained their strength. Amara's kindness and wisdom had saved the people from the terrible drought, and they were eternally grateful. As the years went by, Amara continued to travel from village to village, helping those in need and spreading her wisdom and compassion. Her faithful bird remained by her side, a constant reminder of the power of love and kindness. And so, the legend of Amara, the wise and gentle leader, was passed down through the generations, inspiring countless others to follow in her footsteps and make the world a better place. 55387 ms

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Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 12 Oct '23

12 Oct '23

On 9/26/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > do you remember that desire to have access to a webcomic page before > it is published? > > what if a webcomic was intercepted for political misinformation, and > the author put their creation process on a blockchain video feed to > add strength to their publication being the real one? > > where would people's desire for the next webcomic iteration go? the > button clicks for refreshing the page? > > especially in an environment with hypnotic behavior influence driven > by overtrained marketing AIs? > > --- > > a fleet of tanks drive up to the home of a webcomic artist > > a nerd gets out of the tank closest to the front and approaches the > artist, who is mid-drawing > > nerd [brandishing missile launcher, to artist]: "tell me a joke." > > four more nerds pile out of other tanks and approach the artist. > > four nerds: "tell me a joke." > > a fifth nerd gets out > > fifth nerd: "I'll pay you 5 thousand cryptocreds to hear a joke in the > next hour." > > third nerd: "I'll pay you 10 thousand cryptocreds to hear a joke in > the next minute!" >

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Collapse: Earth Overshoot Day
by grarpamp 12 Oct '23

12 Oct '23

You stupid Humans ran out of resources three days ago on 2021-07-29... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Overshoot_Day https://www.overshootday.org/ https://www.footprintnetwork.org/

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Cryptocurrency: Action - Coinbase Launches Massive User-Driven Political Campaign - Crypto435
by grarpamp 10 Oct '23

10 Oct '23

When politicians fail to respect crypto freedom, it falls upon the free peoples of the world to ensure it... https://coinbase.com/ https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/1630592674020335617 https://actnow.io/z31xN5P https://cryptoslate.com/crypto-slate-wrapped-daily-coinbase-launches-crypto… https://azcoinnews.com/coinbase-launches-crypto435-initiative-to-promote-cr… https://cryptopotato.com/coinbase-launches-nationwide-pro-crypto-policy-cam… " @coinbase: #Crypto435 1/ It’s time to advance pro-crypto policy in all 435 Congressional Districts across the U.S. Introducing #Crypto435, our campaign to grow the crypto advocacy community and share tools and resources to make your voice heard. Become an advocate today 👇 2/ If you believe in crypto and the potential of web3, now is the time to make your voice heard with legislators and regulators. 3/ The crypto community has reached an important moment. Decisions being made by legislators and regulators in DC and around the country will impact the future of how we can build, buy, sell, and use crypto. 4/ We need thoughtful policymaking and smart regulation so that we can continue to advance crypto and web3, and make progress on our mission to increase economic freedom. 5/ Coinbase will empower the #Crypto435 community with information about how to contact specific politicians in their local districts, what those politician's records on crypto are, tips for making your voices heard in D.C., and more. 6/ So if you love crypto and want to see all that it can achieve, join us to shape the policies and regulations that will impact crypto and web3 for years to come: actnow.io/z31xN5P Take Action: Learn how your voice can impact pro-crypto policy Thanks for being a crypto advocate! " The company has announced Crypto435 – a grassroots initiative to expand pro-crypto advocacy to citizens across all 435 Congressional Districts. The exchange claims that Crypto435 will “influence laws and policies,” and also “educate everyday Americans about the power of crypto." Coinbase will empower the #Crypto435 community with information about how to contact specific politicians in their local districts, what those politician's records on crypto are, tips for making your voices heard in D.C., and more. Coinbase has launched Crypto435, a grassroots initiative to expand pro-crypto advocacy to citizens across all 435 Congressional Districts in the US. The cryptocurrency exchange will provide tips related to local politicians and the crypto landscape, including contact information, their records on crypto policy, and how best to make sure those with a voice can be heard. Coinbase, one of the largest cryptocurrency exchanges in the United States, has launched a nationwide pro-crypto policy campaign. The initiative aims to encourage US lawmakers to embrace cryptocurrencies and promote their adoption across the country. The campaign, which involves a series of digital and social media ads, highlights the benefits of cryptocurrencies and urges lawmakers to adopt policies that support innovation in the industry. The move comes at a time when the regulatory environment for cryptocurrencies in the US is becoming increasingly uncertain, with several states proposing strict regulations that could impact the industry's growth “If you love crypto and believe in the potential of web3, it’s more important than ever to advocate for pro-crypto policy in the U.S. Policymakers in Washington DC and state capitals across the US are making decisions about the future of crypto. Their choices will determine how, when, and where YOU can build, buy, sell, and use crypto. We need to make sure they get it right, and that means making your voice heard. We’re excited to introduce Crypto435, a grassroots campaign to advocate for pro-crypto policy. Now is the time to change hearts and minds in all 435 Congressional Districts across the U.S. Now you can sign up to receive important updates and calls to action about crypto policy. Here’s Why Crypto Advocacy Matters Crypto435 will influence laws and policies Crypto435 will bring the crypto community together and there is strength in numbers Crypto435 will promote innovation and protect jobs Crypto435 will educate everyday Americans about the power of crypto Thank you for signing up to be a crypto advocate! By entering your contact information we will continue to provide you with educational resources and the updates you need to help shape pro-crypto policy.”

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Cryptocurrency: Prometheum Exchange Trojan Horse SEC Democrats
by grarpamp 03 Oct '23

03 Oct '23

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/06/15/crypto-lobbyists-ask-sec-for-i… Prometheum is a Legal Trojan Horse to trick the public into buying and adopting in pointless GocBankCorp Fiat Shitcoins including CBDC and their Stablecoins. And to provide the legal precedent needed to kill all other exchanges and real OG cryptos. Again, unless it's real OG crypto, it's just another Fiat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmbYWRMu9c8 Prometheum Trojan Horse Congress v Aaron Kaplan Prometheum Trojan Horse... Leviathan News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI_ZV2Tq4to Prometheum Trojan Horse Prometheum - The Governments Trojan Horse for the Crypto Industry The Government is trying to set up a Shell company to circumvent their power struggle with the Crypto Industry. Bret and Uncle Dan host Crypto and Cash on... https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-alerts-and-bulletins/exercise-caution-cry… That same day, Prometheum announced that they had received approval as a special purpose broker-dealer (“SPBD”) for digital asset securities. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230523005313/en/Prometheum-Ember-C… https://twitter.com/DigPerspectives/status/1669687853352140800 This guy may just be the new #SBF_FTX #SEC #TrojanHorse #Prometheum. Why did the #SEC award Prometheum with SPBD (Special Purpose Broker-Dealer) License knowing it is a #China #CCP backed Company? Our country is on the attack from the inside. https://twitter.com/MMark_2023/status/1669154837630689280 @CaitlinLong_ Prometheum seems to be a Trojan horse but doesn't know exactly what they do and how it works Promethium Exchange is the only registered exchange, it is filled with former SEC Govt Pols Lawyers Lobbyists and Corp staff, and it has sold precisely nothing. Because when you "come in and get 'registered'", you can only sell "registered securities". Which means NO Bitcoin, NO Ethereum, NO distributed P2P non-Corporate Nameless-Dev privacy Coin / Token / DeFi at all, none of it, NONE, period. There is absolutely ZERO point to a registered corporate foundation stable CBDC coin etc, because they are all ultimately NO BETTER than worthless GovCorp controlled devalued stolen robbed extorted inflated and censored Fiat in the end. True private p2p cryptocurrencies solve the Fiat and Corp problem. And destroy the sorry regulators in the process. The only thing exchanges should do is open their own books operations contracts assets liabilities etc to transparency, provide segregated allocated non-rehypothecated custody and insurance choices for those who want it, accurately advertise for inspection any restrictions against market makers influence bots etc, and describe all coins and their metrics accurately, etc. Then let the market choose which succeed and fail.

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Karl's message (Re: [ot][spam][writing][crazy] Non-Canon Traffick Boss Spinoffs - The Reboot)
by Greg Newby 30 Sep '23

30 Sep '23

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 04:51:19PM -0400, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many wrote: > greg doesn't want us to post to the list. what do we do instead. > we could climb. how about we find climbing behavior? costs money > to do as traffick boss wants. is okay. I didn't ask you to not post. I suggested in the past that the email backlog would likely be improved if you sent fewer longer messages, rather than so many very short ones. What I wrote today was a summary of the backlog that grew due to you sending so many messages: > Hi Karl. FYI, the backlog of undelivered emails to cypherpunks subscribers has grown significantly today, due to you sending so many messages: > > $ for i in Sat Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri; do > echo -n $i " " ; mailq | grep cypherpunks-bounces | grep -c $i > done > Sat 0 > Sun 4 > Mon 6 > Tue 33 > Wed 46 > Thu 5 > Fri 743 > > The 743 number is more than the number of messages you have sent, because Mailman batches in groups of approximately 50. So, every outgoing message is sent as multiple batches. > > What this means is that the gmail users (and also cock.li and a few other domains) are not getting your emails. They might eventually get them, likely out of order. Or they might just bounce permanently. > > You've sent well over 100 messages today. > ~ Greg

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The Message
by pro2rat＠yahoo.com.au 30 Sep '23

30 Sep '23

Signals becoming clearer. Our traditional spam-Harkonnen enemies, and their USG-Chaum allies, have always attacked us in the LANDSRAAD. So now we see the hand of the list chimperor behind them. So? I see the struth of it. You pay melange - you get worms.

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Re: Cypherpunks backlog
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 29 Sep '23

29 Sep '23

greg sent me this and i'm encouraging my habit of cc'ing the list greg speaks kindly below, and discusses the bouncing. i'm surprised that cock.li is bouncing. it's silly we are all using gmail. it would be funny if the bounces were all to my own addresses. O_O one idea is sturdier channel, but of course it's all quite silly on my end On 9/29/23, Greg Newby <gbnewby(a)petascale.org> wrote: > Hi Karl. FYI, the backlog of undelivered emails to cypherpunks subscribers > has grown significantly today, due to you sending so many messages: > > $ for i in Sat Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri; do > echo -n $i " " ; mailq | grep cypherpunks-bounces | grep -c $i > done > Sat 0 > Sun 4 > Mon 6 > Tue 33 > Wed 46 > Thu 5 > Fri 743 > > The 743 number is more than the number of messages you have sent, because > Mailman batches in groups of approximately 50. So, every outgoing message > is sent as multiple batches. > > What this means is that the gmail users (and also cock.li and a few other > domains) are not getting your emails. They might eventually get them, > likely out of order. Or they might just bounce permanently. > > You've sent well over 100 messages today. > ~ Greg >

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[ot][spam][crazy][personal] list-posting research
by Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many 29 Sep '23

29 Sep '23

On 9/29/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/26/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many > <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> oh no!!!!!!! >> -------- >> once upon a time parts of a brain thought they were doing things that >> made >> sense >> but it turned out they had synchronized with patterns relating to >> posting stuff to a mailing list :/ > > Research into list-posting: > > It looks something like as I find behaviors I can repeat with some > intentionality, parts of my mind develop strength at repeating > behaviors in general, and I begin to be able to do and think more > things. >

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