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Why are people so mean?
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

At this point I would like to throw to our resident specialists on such matters Gramps, Semich and Juan Peron Adolph Eichman Eva Garafolo. Some say the NYT has established why over meany years - but I Douthat My own position remains that about 33.3 % of people will always be mean no matter what. I do what I can in my spare time to try and minimize the harm these meanies cause. No don't thank me - a few thousand Btc will suffice. Tia.

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"Is the victim threatened? Is the victim alarmed? Hey, that's a crime."
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Gramps being outflanked by Lindsay Graham - GovCorp can sleep sound tonite. >> Interesting logic here. Someone writes something not-so-nice about somebody on a list and now that person is being "cyberstalked" even though they're not a subscriber. And now, the stalk-ee is a victim of a crime. And now the person who said something "not-so-nice" has committed a crime. And this guy's a consultant? To whom, I wonder... <<< https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=105841691523360&w=2 Reposts violently assault circle-of-eunuchs

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Link to missing post re DENVER POST Cypherpunk
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

https://buttdarling.insanejournal.com/129512.html?mode=reply Backed up on the 22 of the 2cnd 2022 Tumultuous summer of 2003 has yet to reveal all its secrets!

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"Is the victim threatened? Is the victim alarmed? Hey, that's a crime."
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Do you have a copy of your Denver Post article somewhere? The link in the archive is broken. I looked on archive.org but didn't find it there either. <<< Who controls the present archives controls the past - and who controls the past, controls the future. Denver Post Online threats target Denver investigators - Anarchist says e-mails harmless; feds disagree By Jim Hughes - Denver Post Staff Writer Monday, July 07, 2003 - An anarchist using the online moniker “Professor Rat” has threatened the lives of two federal terrorism investigators in Denver, advocating that they “need killing.” The threats name an FBI agent assigned to the local multiagency Joint Terrorism Task Force and the government’s lead prosecutor of terrorism cases in Colorado. Although those who travel in the same online circles as Professor Rat say his provocations are not to be taken seriously, officials say they are concerned about the threats, which were sent to an e-mail listserv and posted on the Internet in April. “The recipients of the threats have no way to discern their validity,” said Jeff Dorschner, spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office. "They cause fear and they disrupt lives, and it’s for that reason that they’re taken very seriously. “It’s more than the individual targets. It’s the families and those associated with them,” he said. That is the purpose of the postings, an Australian man who admits to using the Professor Rat name and to posting these kinds of threats said in a telephone interview and a series of e-mails: To scare people out of working for the government. He refused to admit to any specific threat, to avoid prosecution, he said. He already is charged with making similar threats against police in Australia, according to the Victoria Police in Melbourne. Saying that his real name was Matt Taylor and that he was 48 years old, Professor Rat said he promotes a theory called Assassination Politics that emerged at the periphery of cyberanarchist circles in 1997. The concept is that of an online lottery in which people bet on a date that public figures will die. The implication is that the lottery “winner” likely helped arrange the death. Winnings would be paid in untraceable digital cash, which does not yet exist. The development of digital money, and encryption software restricting government’s ability to monitor Internet activity, are common goals among the online anarchists and libertarians known as “cypherpunks.” The ultimate purpose of Assassination Politics is to deter people from working for government agencies, corporate media outlets or institutions “beholden to the violence of the state,” Taylor said. Professor Rat also has threatened a University of Ottawa law professor, a columnist for The Boston Globe and a Cincinnati police officer. Many of those threats were posted to a listserv called Cypherpunks. The e-mail distribution network allows libertarians and anarchists interested in the tension between government oversight and individual liberty on the Internet to discuss those issues via e-mails that when sent to the listserv are distributed to all members. Dorschner would not say whether there was an investigation into Professor Rat, calling the matter an issue of “internal security.” The columnist for The Boston Globe, whose sin, in the eyes of Professor Rat, was to criticize civil libertarians for objecting to the Patriot Act of 2001, said he did not take the threat at all seriously. He learned of the threat only last week, when told of it by The Denver Post, he said. The Post is withholding the names of the subjects of posts by Professor Rat to avoid promoting any specific threats. “The way I see it, this kind of talk is pretty cheap on the Internet,” the columnist said. “This is something I would consider casual hate speech. This person didn’t send me an e-mail saying 'I’m going to kill you.”’ But officials in Denver see nothing casual about the statements, Dorschner said. In an interview, Taylor taunted the Denver officials named in the April 8 statement. “They’re welcome to come and get me extradited,” he said. “Here I am. Come and get me.” The Cypherpunks listserv is also where Jim Bell, an MIT-trained chemist and Washington anarchist who now is in prison for interstate stalking of federal agents, unveiled his Assassination Politics. He was convicted in 2001. Federal prosecutors in Seattle that year also won a conviction against Carl Johnson, a Canadian man accused of threatening federal judges and Microsoft founder Bill Gates by e-mail. Later in 2001, Thomas Wales, a federal prosecutor in Seattle, was shot to death. Though his death was noted on the Cypherpunks listserv, no connection to Assassination Politics has ever been made. The case remains unsolved. John Hartingh, spokesman for the U.S. attorney’s office in Seattle, declined to comment on Wales’ death. Taylor said his threats are intended solely as a rhetorical deterrent. “No one has to die,” he said. “All that has to happen is for people to accept the system.” If anyone Taylor threatened ever was assassinated, “I would totally reassess my involvement in it,” he said. “It would totally change the whole situation. Basically, I’m a nonviolent person.” The posts made by Professor Rat fall under a relatively new category of crime known as “cyberstalking,” said Jim Doyle, a retired New York City police sergeant who now works as a cybercrimes consultant for a Connecticut company called Internet Crimes. The statements made by Professor Rat constitute prosecutable offenses, he said. “The bottom line is what the victim feels,” he said. “Is the victim threatened? Is the victim alarmed? Hey, that’s a crime.” Eugene Volokh, a law professor at the University of California-Los Angeles and a First Amendment specialist, said the threats were probably criminal, given Taylor’s description of the purpose of Assassination Politics. But “in order to (prosecute), you have to get your hands on the guy,” he said. Most current Cypherpunks subscribers have set up their e-mail in-boxes to block any messages coming from Taylor, said Declan McCullagh, a reporter for the high-tech website CNET.com. He has subscribed to Cypherpunks for 10 years, he said. Taylor exists on the “radical fringe” of online anarchists, McCullagh said. “He’s routinely ignored and ‘kill-filed’ by just about everyone on the list. I’d be surprised if more than a small handful of people are reading his postings, let alone taking him seriously.” Taylor acknowledged that he does not not have much support in anarchist circles. “Most anarchists see what I’m doing as counterproductive. … I’m not exactly at the center of anarchism by promoting Assassination Politics, that’s for sure.” That's it, Karl. I will back it up at my " Insane Journal " blog " Buttdarling "

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Ruby Ridge
by Gunnar Larson 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge#:~:text=Ruby%20Ridge%20was%20the%2… . *Ruby Ridge* was the site of an eleven-day siege <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege> in 1992 in Boundary County <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_County,_Idaho>, Idaho <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho>, near Naples <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naples,_Idaho>. It began on August 21, when deputies of the United States Marshals Service <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marshals_Service> (USMS) initiated action to apprehend and arrest Randy Weaver <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Weaver> under a bench warrant after his failure to appear <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failure_to_appear> on firearms charges. Weaver refused to surrender, and members of his immediate family, and family friend Kevin Harris, resisted as well. The Hostage Rescue Team <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostage_Rescue_Team> of the Federal Bureau of Investigation <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation> (FBI HRT) became involved as the siege developed.

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Bids on Joe Biden's assassination
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

In the spirit of Crazy Horse List: cypherpunks Subject: Bids on Wolfwitz's assassination From: Tim May <timcmay () got ! net> Date: 2003-07-29 16:40:55 http://www.pentagon-terror-market/employees.com WOLFOWITZ, PAUL: ODDS FOR ASSASSINATION BY 2003-11-15: 7:3 ODDS FOR NECKLACING OF HIS FAMILY MEMBERS BY 2004-02-15: 12:2 ODDS THAT NEXT PENTAGON BLAST WILL TAKE HIM OUT BY 2003-10-05: 7:1 I guess now that the Pentagon is setting up a murder pool it can't be illegal for us to do it. --Tim May, Corralitos, California Quote of the Month: "It is said that there are no atheists in foxholes; perhaps there are no true libertarians in times of terrorist attacks." --Cathy Young, "Reason Magazine," both enemies of liberty. https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=105950339101067&w=2 Reposts assaulted to taste

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" Assault by threat " on the cypherpunks list
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Carl Johnson's ' Dead Lucky ' system, and some associated posts appear to qualify back in the 90's and early Noughties. Then there was my contribution with " Operation Soft Drill ". Finally Mongo, himself cracked and ' assaulted " ( Snork! )Paul Wolfowitz , second in charge at the Pentagon at the time. TIM " I guess now that the Pentagon is setting up a murder pool it can't be illegal for us to do it " MAY. 2003 He was right! - since 2003 assassination markets have not been cited in legal proceedings against cypherpunks - another famous victory in the Crypto Wars! This doesn't mean we can't get droned tomorrow like Whassisname alkawi. But I suggest it clarifies that fine line between outlaw cryptoanarchists and some studiously law-abiding circle-of-eunuchs.

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Skin in the game and Apster pricing for DUMBELLS
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

>>> the guy who has already assault by threat hundred of random people, <<< Yes - but they were all bad

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Cryptocurrency: Defeats the Tyranny of the Robbery State, WarOnCash
by professor rat 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

Starbucks have totally banned cash? Jesus Fucking Christie! Some brave man needs to self-immolate and highlight this atrocity. Then perhaps there may be a miracle and peace-loving agorists will finally accept assassination markets and bounty-law.

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1984 SpyVeillance: Iran Tows US Sea Drone, Gets Checked
by grarpamp 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

It's 1984 when... you're no longer free to even roam the seas without minders... US Navy Helicopter Thwarts Iranian Attempt To Capture High Tech Sea Drone https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-navy-says-iran-seized-later-let-go-… https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/saildrone-explorer-unmanned-surfa… The US Navy has announced a high seas incident wherein it foiled an attempt by Iran's elite Islamic Revolutionary Guards (IRGC Navy) to capture an unmanned surface vessel as it traversed an area of the Persian Gulf. The US military sea drone was being operated by America's 5th fleet, and upon the intervention of US Navy assets - including a helicopter which deployed in response - the Iranians let the drone go. #BREAKING: U.S. Navy releases video showing support ship Shahid Baziar, from #Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy unlawfully towing a Saildrone Explorer unmanned surface vessel in international waters of the Arabian Gulf, Aug. 30. pic.twitter.com/5Dwe0673RE — Jason Brodsky (@JasonMBrodsky) August 30, 2022 Cmdr. Timothy Hawkins, a 5th Fleet spokesman, in a statement identified that the drone in question is a Saildrone Explorer, which is a high tech, relatively large drone used for gathering an array of data, including mapping the ocean's floor. According to his statement released in an AP/Washington Post report: Hawkins said the Guard vessel was towing the drone behind it as a U.S. Navy ship and helicopter approached it. Hawkins told The Associated Press the Navy called repeatedly to the Iranians, who ultimately let the drone go. Iran did not immediately acknowledge the incident. However, it comes amid heightened tensions between Washington and Iran over Tehran’s tattered nuclear deal with world powers. The Saildrone Explorer USV (unmanned surface vehicle) is a newly developed and deployed US-manufactured high tech data collection system which uses AI to autonomously gather oceanic and other intelligence. Saildrone USV, which uses solar power to operate some of its components. Image: US Navy According to an industry website, "The Royal Jordanian Navy and the US Navy’s 5th Fleet established an unmanned task force for the integration of unmanned systems and artificial intelligence into its operations, in September 2021." "The Jordanian naval base in Aqaba has been serving as a joint hub for operations of Saildrone USV in the Red Sea since December 2021," the report details. Saildrone USV. Image: US Navy The drone's size is significant, with a hull length of 23ft (7m), a wing height of 15ft (5m), and a draft of 6ft (2m), according to specs listed by Naval Technology. "The Saildrone USV autonomously navigates through large areas of the oceans based on waypoint-to-waypoint navigation through wind and currents," the description indicates. "It is constantly monitored by a pilot who can command and control the USV using satellite communications."

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