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Governance through obscurity!
by professor rat 10 Jan '22

10 Jan '22

Anarchist-hating, carpet-baggers for the revolution! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIb_bHZxwuc Feh

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PAY-PAL Digital - Long March to Slavery
by professor rat 10 Jan '22

10 Jan '22

https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=95280154627568&w=1 Reminder - Cypherpunks discuss socio-economic fallout of networked encryption. Detailed discussions of technical coding and infrastructure was hived off to CODERPUNKS So this is a POLITICAL list revolving around ANARCHISM. Politics is also WAR by other means. The 'Crypto Wars' past is not dead. Its not even past. Eunuchs leave.

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web3.0 is not decentralized
by coderman 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

https://moxie.org/2022/01/07/web3-first-impressions.html My first impressions of web3 Jan 07, 2022 Despite considering myself a cryptographer, I have not found myself particularly drawn to “crypto.” I don’t think I’ve ever actually said the words “get off my lawn,” but I’m much more likely to click on Pepperidge Farm Remembers flavored memes about how “crypto” used to mean “cryptography” than I am the latest NFT drop. Also – cards on the table here – I don’t share the same generational excitement for moving all aspects of life into an instrumented economy. Even strictly on the technological level, though, I haven’t yet managed to become a believer. So given all of the recent attention into what is now being called web3, I decided to explore some of what has been happening in that space more thoroughly to see what I may be missing. How I think about 1 and 2 web3 is a somewhat ambiguous term, which makes it difficult to rigorously evaluate what the ambitions for web3 should be, but the [general thesis](https://future.a16z.com/why-web3-matters/) seems to be that web1 was decentralized, web2 centralized everything into platforms, and that web3 will decentralize everything again. web3 should give us the richness of web2, but decentralized. It’s probably good to have some clarity on why centralized platforms emerged to begin with, and in my mind the explanation is pretty simple: - People don’t want to run their own servers, and never will. The premise for web1 was that everyone on the internet would be both a publisher and consumer of content as well as a publisher and consumer of infrastructure. We’d all have our own web server with our own web site, our own mail server for our own email, our own finger server for our own status messages, our own chargen server for our own character generation. However – and I don’t think this can be emphasized enough – that is not what people want. People do not want to run their own servers. Even nerds do not want to run their own servers at this point. Even organizations building software full time do not want to run their own servers at this point. If there’s one thing I hope we’ve learned about the world, it’s that people do not want to run their own servers. The companies that emerged offering to do that for you instead were successful, and the companies that iterated on new functionality based on what is possible with those networks were even more successful. - A protocol [moves much more slowly than a platform](https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/). After 30+ years, email is still unencrypted; meanwhile WhatsApp went from unencrypted to full e2ee in a year. People are still trying to standardize sharing a video reliably over IRC; meanwhile, Slack lets you create custom reaction emoji based on your face. This isn’t a funding issue. If something is truly decentralized, it becomes very difficult to change, and often remains stuck in time. That is a problem for technology, because the rest of the ecosystem is moving very quickly, and if you don’t keep up you will fail. There are entire parallel industries focused on defining and improving methodologies like Agile to try to figure out how to organize enormous groups of people so that they can move as quickly as possible because it is so critical. When the technology itself is more conducive to stasis than movement, that’s a problem. A sure recipe for success has been to take a 90’s protocol that was stuck in time, centralize it, and iterate quickly. But web3 intends to be different, so let’s take a look. In order to get a quick feeling for the space and a better understanding for what the future may hold, I decided to build a couple of dApps and create an NFT. Making some distributed apps To get a feeling for the web3 world, I made a dApp called [Autonomous Art](https://autonomous.graphics) that lets anyone mint a token for an NFT by making a visual contribution to it. The cost of making a visual contribution increases over time, and the funds a contributor pays to mint are distributed to all previous artists (visualizing this financial structure would resemble something similar to a pyramid shape). At the time of this writing, over $38k USD has gone into creating this collective art piece. I also made a dApp called [First Derivative](https://firstderivative.market) that allows you to create, discover, and exchange NFT derivatives which track an underlying NFT, similar to financial derivatives which track an underlying asset 😉. Both gave me a feeling for how the space works. To be clear, there is nothing particularly “distributed” about the apps themselves: they’re just normal react websites. The “distributedness” refers to where the state and the logic/permissions for updating the state lives: on the blockchain instead of in a “centralized” database. One thing that has always felt strange to me about the cryptocurrency world is the lack of attention to the client/server interface. When people talk about blockchains, they talk about distributed trust, leaderless consensus, and all the mechanics of how that works, but often gloss over the reality that clients ultimately can’t participate in those mechanics. All the network diagrams are of servers, the trust model is between servers, everything is about servers. Blockchains are designed to be a network of peers, but not designed such that it’s really possible for your mobile device or your browser to be one of those peers. With the shift to mobile, we now live firmly in a world of clients and servers – with the former completely unable to act as the latter – and those questions seem more important to me than ever. Meanwhile, ethereum actually refers to servers as “clients,” so there’s not even a word for an actual untrusted client/server interface that will have to exist somewhere, and no acknowledgement that if successful there will ultimately be billions (!) more clients than servers. For example, whether it’s running on mobile or the web, a dApp like [Autonomous Art](https://autonomous.graphics) or [First Derivative](https://firstderivative.market) needs to interact with the blockchain somehow – in order to modify or render state (the collectively produced work of art, the edit history for it, the NFT derivatives, etc). That’s not really possible to do from the client, though, since the blockchain can’t live on your mobile device (or in your desktop browser realistically). So the only alternative is to interact with the blockchain via a node that’s running remotely on a server somewhere. A server! But, as we know, people don’t want to run their own servers. As it happens, companies have emerged that sell API access to an ethereum node they run as a service, along with providing analytics, enhanced APIs they’ve built on top of the default ethereum APIs, and access to historical transactions. Which sounds… familiar. At this point, there are basically two companies. Almost all dApps use either [Infura](https://infura.io/) or [Alchemy](https://www.alchemy.com/) in order to interact with the blockchain. In fact, even when you connect a wallet like MetaMask to a dApp, and the dApp interacts with the blockchain via your wallet, MetaMask is just making calls to Infura! These client APIs are not using anything to verify blockchain state or the authenticity of responses. The results aren’t even signed. An app like Autonomous Art says “hey what’s the output of this view function on this smart contract,” Alchemy or Infura responds with a JSON blob that says “this is the output,” and the app renders it. This was surprising to me. So much work, energy, and time has gone into creating a trustless distributed consensus mechanism, but virtually all clients that wish to access it do so by simply trusting the outputs from these two companies without any further verification. It also doesn’t seem like the best privacy situation. Imagine if every time you interacted with a website in Chrome, your request first went to Google before being routed to the destination and back. That’s the situation with ethereum today. All write traffic is obviously already public on the blockchain, but these companies also have visibility into almost all read requests from almost all users in almost all dApps. Partisans of the blockchain might say that it’s okay if these types of centralized platforms emerge, because the state itself is available on the blockchain, so if these platforms misbehave clients can simply move elsewhere. However, I would suggest that this is a very simplistic view of the dynamics that make platforms what they are. Let me give you an example. Making an NFT I also wanted to create a more traditional NFT. Most people think of images and digital art when they think of NFTs, but NFTs generally do not store that data on-chain. For most NFTs of most images, that would be much too expensive. Instead of storing the data on-chain, NFTs instead contain a URL that points to the data. What surprised me about the standards was that there’s no hash commitment for the data located at the URL. Looking at many of the NFTs on popular marketplaces being sold for tens, hundreds, or millions of dollars, that URL often just points to some VPS running Apache somewhere. Anyone with access to that machine, anyone who buys that domain name in the future, or anyone who compromises that machine can change the image, title, description, etc for the NFT to whatever they’d like at any time (regardless of whether or not they “own” the token). There’s nothing in the NFT spec that tells you what the image “should” be, or even allows you to confirm whether something is the “correct” image. So as an experiment, I made an NFT that changes based on who is looking at it, since the web server that serves the image can choose to serve different images based on the IP or User Agent of the requester. For example, it looked [one way](https://opensea.io/assets/0x5c61afa47570ab2b562606fa578221305b12c307/1) on OpenSea, [another way](https://rarible.com/token/0x5c61afa47570ab2b562606fa578221305b12c307:1… on Rarible, but when you buy it and view it from your crypto wallet, it will always display as a large 💩 emoji. What you bid on isn’t what you get. There’s nothing unusual about this NFT, it’s how the NFT specifications are built. Many of the highest priced NFTs could turn into 💩 emoji at any time; I just made it explicit. [NFT on OpenSea]NFT on OpenSea [NFT on rarible]Same NFT on Rarible [NFT in wallet]Same NFT in a wallet After a few days, without warning or explanation, the NFT I made was removed from OpenSea (an NFT marketplace): The takedown suggests that I violated some Term Of Service, but after reading the terms, I don’t see any that prohibit an NFT which changes based on where it is being looked at from, and I was openly describing it that way. What I found most interesting, though, is that after OpenSea removed my NFT, it also no longer appeared in any crypto wallet on my device. This is web3, though, how is that possible? A crypto wallet like MetaMask, Rainbow, etc is “non-custodial” (the keys are kept client side), but it has the same problem as my dApps above: a wallet has to run on a mobile device or in your browser. Meanwhile, ethereum and other blockchains have been designed with the idea that it’s a network of peers, but not designed such that it’s really possible for your mobile device or your browser to be one of those peers. A wallet like MetaMask needs to do basic things like display your balance, your recent transactions, and your NFTs, as well as more complex things like constructing transactions, interacting with smart contracts, etc. In short, MetaMask needs to interact with the blockchain, but the blockchain has been built such that clients like MetaMask can’t interact with it. So like my dApp, MetaMask accomplishes this by making API calls to three companies that have consolidated in this space. For instance, MetaMask displays your recent transactions by making an API call to etherscan: GET https://api.etherscan.io/api?module=account&address=0x0208376c899fdaEbA5305… HTTP/2.0 …displays your account balance by making an API call to Infura: POST https://mainnet.infura.io/v3/d039103314584a379e33c21fbe89b6cb HTTP/2.0 { "id": 2628746552039525, "jsonrpc": "2.0", "method": "eth_getBalance", "params": [ "0x0208376c899fdaEbA530570c008C4323803AA9E8", "latest" ] } …displays your NFTs by making an API call to OpenSea: GET https://api.opensea.io/api/v1/assets?owner=0x0208376c899fdaEbA530570c008C43… HTTP/2.0 Again, like with my dApp, these responses are not authenticated in some way. They’re not even signed so that you could later prove they were lying. It reuses the same connections, TLS session tickets, etc for all the accounts in your wallet, so if you’re managing multiple accounts in your wallet to maintain some identity separation, these companies know they’re linked. MetaMask doesn’t actually do much, it’s just a view onto data provided by these centralized APIs. This isn’t a problem specific to MetaMask – what other option do they have? Rainbow, etc are set up in exactly the same way. (Interestingly, Rainbow has their own data for the social features they’re building into their wallet – social graph, showcases, etc – and have chosen to build all of that on top of Firebase instead of the blockchain.) All this means that if your NFT is removed from OpenSea, it also disappears from your wallet. It doesn’t functionally matter that my NFT is indelibly on the blockchain somewhere, because the wallet (and increasingly everything else in the ecosystem) is just using the OpenSea API to display NFTs, which began returning 304 No Content for the query of NFTs owned by my address! Recreating this world Given the history of why web1 became web2, what seems strange to me about web3 is that technologies like ethereum have been built with many of the same implicit trappings as web1. To make these technologies usable, the space is consolidating around… platforms. Again. People who will run servers for you, and iterate on the new functionality that emerges. Infura, OpenSea, Coinbase, Etherscan. Likewise, the web3 protocols are slow to evolve. When building First Derivative, it would have been great to price minting derivatives as a percentage of the underlying’s value. That data isn’t on chain, but it’s in an API that OpenSea will give you. People are excited about NFT royalties for the way that they can benefit creators, but royalties aren’t specified in ERC-721, and it’s too late to change it, so OpenSea has its own way of configuring royalties that exists in web2 space. Iterating quickly on centralized platforms is already outpacing the distributed protocols and consolidating control into platforms. Given those dynamics, I don’t think it should be a surprise that we’re already at a place where your crypto wallet’s view of your NFTs is OpenSea’s view of your NFTs. I don’t think we should be surprised that OpenSea isn’t a pure “view” that can be replaced, since it has been busy iterating the platform beyond what is possible strictly with the impossible/difficult to change standards. I think this is very similar to the situation with email. I can run my own mail server, but it doesn’t functionally matter for privacy, censorship resistance, or control – because GMail is going to be on the other end of every email that I send or receive anyway. Once a distributed ecosystem centralizes around a platform for convenience, it becomes the worst of both worlds: centralized control, but still distributed enough to become mired in time. I can build my own NFT marketplace, but it doesn’t offer any additional control if OpenSea mediates the view of all NFTs in the wallets people use (and every other app in the ecosystem). This isn’t a complaint about OpenSea or an indictment of what they’ve built. Just the opposite, they’re trying to build something that works. I think we should expect this kind of platform consolidation to happen, and given the inevitability, design systems that give us what we want when that’s how things are organized. My sense and concern, though, is that the web3 community expects some other outcome than what we’re already seeing. It’s early days “It’s early days still” is the most common refrain I see from people in the web3 space when discussing matters like these. In some ways, cryptocurrency’s failure to scale beyond relatively nascent engineering is what makes it possible to consider the days “early,” since objectively it has already been a decade or more. However, even if this is just the beginning (and it very well might be!), I’m not sure we should consider that any consolation. I think the opposite might be true; it seems like we should take notice that from the very beginning, these technologies immediately tended towards centralization through platforms in order for them to be realized, that this has ~zero negatively felt effect on the velocity of the ecosystem, and that most participants don’t even know or care it’s happening. This might suggest that decentralization itself is not actually of immediate practical or pressing importance to the majority of people downstream, that the only amount of decentralization people want is the minimum amount required for something to exist, and that if not very consciously accounted for, these forces will push us further from rather than closer to the ideal outcome as the days become less early. But you can’t stop a gold rush When you think about it, OpenSea would actually be much “better” in the immediate sense if all the web3 parts were gone. It would be faster, cheaper for everyone, and easier to use. For example, to accept a bid on my NFT, I would have had to pay over $80-$150+ just in ethereum transaction fees. That puts an artificial floor on all bids, since otherwise you’d lose money by accepting a bid for less than the gas fees. Payment fees by credit card, which typically feel extortionary, look cheap compared to that. OpenSea could even publish a simple transparency log if people wanted a public record of transactions, offers, bids, etc to verify their accounting. However, if they had built a platform to buy and sell images that wasn’t nominally based on crypto, I don’t think it would have taken off. Not because it isn’t distributed, because as we’ve seen so much of what’s required to make it work is already not distributed. I don’t think it would have taken off because this is a gold rush. People have made money through cryptocurrency speculation, those people are interested in spending that cryptocurrency in ways that support their investment while offering additional returns, and so that defines the setting for the market of transfer of wealth. The people at the end of the line who are flipping NFTs do not fundamentally care about distributed trust models or payment mechanics, but they care about where the money is. So the money draws people into OpenSea, they improve the experience by building a platform that iterates on the underlying web3 protocols in web2 space, they eventually offer the ability to “mint” NFTs through OpenSea itself instead of through your own smart contract, and eventually this all opens the door for Coinbase to offer access to the validated NFT market with their own platform via your debit card. That opens the door to Coinbase managing the tokens themselves through dark pools that Coinbase holds, which helpfully eliminates the transaction fees and makes it possible to avoid having to interact with smart contracts at all. Eventually, all the web3 parts are gone, and you have a website for buying and selling JPEGS with your debit card. The project can’t start as a web2 platform because of the market dynamics, but the same market dynamics and the fundamental forces of centralization will likely drive it to end up there. At the end of the stack, NFT artists are excited about this kind of progression because it means more speculation/investment in their art, but it also seems like if the point of web3 is to avoid the trappings of web2, we should be concerned that this is already the natural tendency for these new protocols that are supposed to offer a different future. I think these market forces will likely continue, and in my mind the question of how long it continues is a question of whether the vast amounts of accumulated cryptocurrency are ultimately inside an engine or a leaky bucket. If the money flowing through NFTs ends up channeled back into crypto space, it could continue to accelerate forever (regardless of whether or not it’s just web2x2). If it churns out, then this will be a blip. Personally, I think enough money has been made at this point that there are enough faucets to keep it going, and this won’t just be a blip. If that’s the case, it seems worth thinking about how to avoid web3 being web2x2 (web2 but with even less privacy) with some urgency. Creativity might not be enough I have only dipped my toe in the waters of web3. Looking at it through the lens of these small projects, though, I can easily see why so many people find the web3 ecosystem so neat. I don’t think it’s on a trajectory to deliver us from centralized platforms, I don’t think it will fundamentally change our relationship to technology, and I think the privacy story is already below par for the internet (which is a pretty low bar!), but I also understand why nerds like me are excited to build for it. It is, at the very least, something new on the nerd level – and that creates a space for creativity/exploration that is somewhat reminiscent of early internet days. Ironically, part of that creativity probably springs from the constraints that make web3 so clunky. I’m hopeful that the creativity and exploration we’re seeing will have positive outcomes, but I’m not sure if it’s enough to prevent all the same dynamics of the internet from unfolding again. If we do want to change our relationship to technology, I think we’d have to do it intentionally. My basic thoughts are roughly: - We should accept the premise that people will not run their own servers by designing systems that can distribute trust without having to distribute infrastructure. This means architecture that anticipates and accepts the inevitable outcome of relatively centralized client/server relationships, but uses cryptography (rather than infrastructure) to distribute trust. One of the surprising things to me about web3, despite being built on “crypto,” is how little cryptography seems to be involved! - We should try to reduce the burden of building software. At this point, software projects require an enormous amount of human effort. Even relatively simple apps require a group of people to sit in front of a computer for eight hours a day, every day, forever. This wasn’t always the case, and there was a time when 50 people working on a software project wasn’t considered a “small team.” As long as software requires such concerted energy and so much highly specialized human focus, I think it will have the tendency to serve the interests of the people sitting in that room every day rather than what we may consider our broader goals. I think changing our relationship to technology will probably require making software easier to create, but in my lifetime I’ve seen the opposite come to pass. Unfortunately, I think distributed systems have a tendency to exacerbate this trend by making things more complicated and more difficult, not less complicated and less difficult. gm!

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Apple Rejected U.K. Litigation Insurance Details
by Gunnar Larson 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

Cupertino, California based Apple Inc. is facing a $2.3B litigation battle in the United Kingdom, as nearly 20 million iPhone and iPad users claim Apple abused application payment ethics rules. Dr. Rachel Kent of King’s College London is the proposed class representative custodian. Law Gazette reports <https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/apples-bid-to-reveal-ate-premiums-refused…> that Dr. Kent has submitted a proposal of litigation trajectory and corresponding budget to finance the claim to trial. Attorney’s for Apple petitioned the court for details of Dr. Kent’s litigation budget, pressing for detail on ‘after the market’ (ATE) insurance premiums. Dr. Kent is said to have $20M+ in liability protection covering litigation against Apple. Apple challenged that Dr. Kent’s litigation budget and ATE premiums are not subject to confidentiality. However, the U.K. tribunal hearing the case rejected Apple’s logic. Presiding justices cautioned that ATE premium details could motivate Apple to tactically forecast the insurers’ anticipated claim risk. While refusing to disclose details of Mr. Kent’s litigation budget and ATE premium agreements, the court did not grant privilege to details of the insurance premium agreements. As such, Apple may engage alternative market research avenues to obtain the information. The court expressed concern that Apple may seek to increase pressure on Dr. Kent’s legal team by driving up litigation costs during the dispute. https://litigationfinancejournal.com/apple-rejected-u-k-litigation-insuranc…

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Turkey’s Litigation Finance Future
by Gunnar Larson 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

Turkey’s economy has been targeted by aggressive international profiteers, according to officials in A <https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS976US976&q=Ankara&stick=H4sIA…>nkara. The Capital Market’s Board fined a group of United States banks who signaled clear hawkish intentions with surprise illegal short selling of Turkey’s stock market in 2021. The banks included marquee firms such as Goldman Sachs International, Credit Suisse Securities Europe and Barclays Capital Securities. Imrquits.com recently profiled <https://imrqtuts.com/2022/01/overview-of-turkish-litigation-practice-2021-l…> Mondaq’s contemporary Overview of Turkish Litigation Practice. Litigation finance is a bright new concept in Turkey, and many are hopeful of its usage as a potential international diplomacy tool. The volatile Turkish Lira and global inflation pressures continue to prompt Turkish officials’ call for international diplomacy rather than targeted economic conflict. Litigation finance may be useful in closing regulatory arbitrage loopholes that have the potential to snowball into crimes against humanity. For example, Turkey is covered by New York Human Rights provisions to certain acts committed outside the state of New York (§ 298-a.). If a New York bank willfully intends to target Turkey’s vulnerable economy by violating human rights laws, claims based on such aggression can be financed without armed conflict. Savvy international litigation funders may look for unique opportunities to finance profitability diplomatic solutions, rather than exacerbate Turkey’s economic vulnerabilities.

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Re: DOC - Decentralized Onion Communication
by professor rat 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

Cypherpunks Subject: Everyone a remailer: Everyone a Mint: Everyone an assassin https://marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=100872510706876&w=2 Strong-crypto, digital money, anonymous networks, pseudonyms, zero- knowledge proofs, reputations, information-markets, netwar, collapse-of-governments. What forbids us translating the freedom afforded by the Internet to ordinary life?

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And so as Netwar rots down; Hybrid-war lurches up
by professor rat 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

capitolhunters · May 28, 2021 #SeditionHunters have wondered for months how the unruly crowd on Jan. 6 could produce synchronized action. Let’s ask an expert: Lt Col. Doug Mastriano (ret.), who taught Strategy at the U.S. Army War College & writes about “hybrid warfare” (link). 1/ https://fpri.org/article/2016/04/putins-conundrum-baltic-region-unconventio…

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Satellites
by Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

...have nothing to do with privacy and have nothing to with cryptography applied to privacy. Au contraire, satellites are one of the most dangerous, anti privacy weapons that anti humanists build and even then only a few 'selected' nazi governments have access to satellites. You have to be infinitely stupid and ignorant to believe otherwise. But even bell and 'grarpamp' are not that stupid, so the reason why they lie about satellites is that bell and 'grarpamp' are infinitely dishonest - and US government agents.

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[ot][spam][personal][record] Fwd: 🌎 A new device is contributing to your Location History
by k 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

I received three of these emails today. I haven't been near any of my android devices for a day or two. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Google Location History <location-history-noreply(a)google.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2022 09:31:38 -0800 Subject: 🌎 A new device is contributing to your Location History To: gmkarl(a)gmail.com Hi Karl You previously turned on Location History for your Google Account. You also recently signed into a new device, which is now contributing to your Location History. Location History lets Google give you more personalized information, including recommendations based on places you’ve visited, tips for a faster commute, and suggested routes. Pause your Location History Visit Activity controls anytime to pause your Location History. You can also manage which devices add to your Location History. Go to Activity controls <https://myaccount.google.com/activitycontrols/location?utm_source=tl-email&…> Manage your Location History Visit your private Timeline to view, edit and delete your Location History Go to your Timeline <https://www.google.com/maps/timeline?ved=0ENeiAg> You received this one-time email because you recently signed into a new device, which is now contributing to your Location History. Google LLC 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043

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Satellite emergency 911 system?
by jim bell 09 Jan '22

09 Jan '22

https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/31/apples-rumored-iphone-satellite-support-m… Weeks ago, I pointed out how useful it would be for smartphones to be able to implement 911-type emergency services in conjunction with low-earth-orbit (LEO) satellites. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59920215 Watch: Around 1,000 cars stranded after travelling to see heavy snow in Murree At least 21 people have died after heavy snow trapped them in their vehicles in northern Pakistan. "As many as 1,000 vehicles became stranded as would-be tourists reportedly rushed to view the winter snowfall in the hilltop town of Murree. "A policeman, his wife and their six children, as well as another family-of-five, are among the dead, according to local emergency services Rescue 1122. "The military is attempting to clear roads and rescue those still trapped.

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