July 2021 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

US war crimes (david barrett's crimes)
by Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/01/12/reflecting-on-obamas-presi… "Obama’s embrace and vast expansion of drone strikes against militants and terrorists will be an enduring foreign policy legacy. Whereas President George W. Bush authorized approximately 50 drone strikes that killed 296 terrorists and 195 civilians in Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia, Obama has authorized 506 strikes that have killed 3,040 terrorists and 391 civilians." So it's a matter of public record that non human trash obomba murdered '391 civilians'. In reality the '3040 terrorists' were innocent victims too. And in even more reality the real numbers are way higher. At any rate, it's basic fact of reality that the so called 'presidents of the US' are guilty of mass murder. And so is anyone defending the US govt, like barrett. Non human garbage like barrett needs killing.

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[ot][spam][wrong][spam] impossible pgp keys
by Karl 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

Spamming the list alleviates my need to disrepute myself, almost no matter what I say! I was daydreaming recently of exchanging pgp-signed messages with grarpamp. I'm always wondering how to get myself a pgp key, my brain is so tired of wondering it. Do you think grarpamp has a public key? They seem like they'd know how to use one if they did. Like me, grarpamp demonstrates knowledge, use, and skills of things like privacy technology, but I don't receive many messages from them actually helping people use them. Not many links to tools, no signatures on messages, etc etc. Grarpamp also links to youtube a lot which could indicate they could have little free time for such things, obviously I have no way of knowing for sure. To exchange proper signed or possibly encrypted communications with grarpamp, I would need four things. - to have a private key myself - to have grarpamp's public key - to have a way of exchanging messages that got delivered - to have a way of verifying key fingerprints The first one is the hardest. But the second item is also very hard! Sometimes I imagine that I'm in some kind of internet bubble, and that's why I see so few message signatures. There is a lot of possible indication of this. But even if it's true, it matches my own experience that people would be actually not using private keys, too. It's hard to tell which. It's also possible there are message signatures in those email headers. I usually zone out and forget that that's possible. I don't think grarpamp is signing their emails. But I don't know. Maybe punk is even signing their emails. I don't know! How could we set up a way to exchange keys with random people on the internet we've never met and never really chat with? How could I do this? Maybe I could get them a physical object. That would help a lot. Or I could meet them in some kind of online network that has more cryptographic guarantees. Regardless, if I'm going to be paranoid that everything on my internet could possibly be faked, _and_ that my computer[s] is/are participating in that, I'm going to need a private reasonably secure system to do the cryptography on. Nowadays, everyone I talk to about such things brushes them off, as if the swathes of international system compromises continuously going on indicate that we should blindly trust technology to make things okay. I seriously have this experience! Some time ago I mentioned message signatures to punk on-list and received an apparent reply asking if I was "worried the list administrator was changing our emails" (that is an incredibly untrustworthy reply, and not where I would expect the change to happen, but it could very well have been made up by an actor between us). I actually asked Greg about message signatures. Greg said they didn't use pgp. I asked if they had a lot of trust for networks, relating having participated in a mitm on somebody else once myself, and Greg just didn't reply. I figured the exchange was just part of the whole mitm shenanigans. Now, it's been a number of years since pgp happened. Maybe there is something new now. Some other way to have end-to-end encryption. Maybe that's why greg replied that way. Wouldn't the cypherpunky thing to do to have been to introduce me to it, though? Well, the political environment has changed a lot ... Now, it's pretty obvious that slavery is involved, because that's what followed me around everywhere, and I tested this with coderman. But I'm not so confident that that history, of coderman signing their messages, stopping signing when I replied to one unsigned, and then signing again when I wondered if they were a victim of slavery, is staying on this server. Who knows! Anyway, the only person who can't say they are a slave who needs to be freed, is somebody who _is_ one, in _most_ situations.

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david barrett is a cheerleader for murder and torture
by Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

julian assange and bradley manning have been persecuted and tortured by david barrett's government because they published (more) evidence of US summary execution of innocent people. https://www.nytimes.com/video/multimedia/1248069533084/collateral-murder.ht… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_murder "video shows the crew firing on a group of men and killing several of them, then laughing at some of the casualties, all of whom were civilians, including two Reuters journalists."

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Bloomberg: Can a Dark Market Be a Geopolitical Force? Watch Russia's Hydra
by jim bell 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

Bloomberg: Can a Dark Market Be a Geopolitical Force? Watch Russia's Hydra. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-07-01/can-a-dark-market-be-…

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Apps with 5.8 million Google Play downloads stole users’ Facebook passwords – Ars Technica
by jim bell 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/google-boots-google-play-apps-for-s…

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[spam][wrong] old news and fake news
by Karl 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

I'm sure anyone who's been on this list for a long time has been exposed to situations being covered up in the news. News are businesses, need to keep themselves alive, and what people pay for, and the general climate of doing business, influences what they publish. In Occupy, it became blindingly obvious that some things didn't reach the news. This was so obvious that we had a number of groups across the country and the world organising around providing alternative news. In Occupy there were newsworthy stories streaming through the camps densely, but all the news would seem to report was that we were a bunch of illegal protesters who didn't seem to know what they were protesting. They would interview drunks and ignore our multiple daily open-to-the-public meetings. Then Trump happened. He talked about fake news. He hurt people. I heard he had it hard as a kid and learned to rise to the top. Trump was an obvious, ridiculous cover-up, that is still begging for its own people to realise it and save it. His platform was high-tech news. I would see him giving different political platforms to different social groups, micro-managing the local media. It's strange to have someone call the mainstream media fake news, when every channel in the mainstream media has them on it. I was in Vermont during the primaries, bernie senders' state. I quite literally flipped every channel, and none of them had bernie on it. I tried this for weeks. The best I could find was quotes of bernie repeated by trump in order to disrepute him. I honestly to this day have never heard Bernie Sanders speak. It's hard to judge who to vote for in such a situation. I voted a third party like most hopeful jaded people do. I'm sure others had different experiences. But maybe I'm not sure. Did anyone see bernie sanders say anything on television during the primaries? Anyway. Trump's people kept saying to use these other well-financed outlets instead of the fake mainstream ones, which is ridiculous. I can guess that they didn't understand how few people were able to act on the fake news expression. Occupy was big, but it was also heavily and overtly disrupted, and its disruption then covered up. The people who did Occupy are homeless and/or doing other things. I'm sad to report that many have gotten business jobs to stay safe. Occupy was not some huge moneybags investor -- it was the people of the streets, the churches, and various other activist efforts working together across the world. We don't know how to spawn a media effort. We got lucky, and worked together like you can't imagine, surviving solely off donations by visitors, for months and months. But now everybody sees. Everybody in the world saw trump's group splat the world with how ridiculous the political power is. It's obvious trump knows how ridiculous it is, but now everyone seems to have believed his malarky, which is terrifying. And a lot of people got hurt. Many of them people Occupy was trying to protect from existing harm. Oh, and we have AI now, can anybody actually use it? Or is it just like a scary mask on the wall? Biden now is gently pretending to be a normal stooge, not an exotic one. I'm sure both trump and biden pull their best strings to do what's right. It's hard to learn what those strings are when your media is telling you that everything is "evil", whatever that word means.

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[ot][spam] Censorship is a Firing Squad Wall
by Karl 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

When you censor, the people you are censoring lose power, impact, communication, voice, influence. These people are less powerful than those guiding the censoring. This means they run into more suffering, and learn about more problems. Some of them get deep, deep into the problems. When censored, these people die, and the problems become unlearned of. When not censored, these people make an irritating stink, and people learn of some of the problems. Problems nobody could ever imagine. Problems that have learned to never be noticed except by their victims.

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US war crimes (david barrett's crimes)
by Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/01/12/reflecting-on-obamas-presi… "Obama’s embrace and vast expansion of drone strikes against militants and terrorists will be an enduring foreign policy legacy. Whereas President George W. Bush authorized approximately 50 drone strikes that killed 296 terrorists and 195 civilians in Yemen, Pakistan and Somalia, Obama has authorized 506 strikes that have killed 3,040 terrorists and 391 civilians." So it's a matter of public record that non human trash obomba murdered '391 civilians'. In reality the '3040 terrorists' were innocent victims too. And in even more reality the real numbers are way higher. At any rate, it's basic fact of reality that the so called 'presidents of the US' are guilty of mass murder. And so is anyone defending the US govt, like barrett. Non human garbage like barrett needs killing.

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[crazy][ai][draft]s
by Karl 03 Jul '21

03 Jul '21

For a computer, I describe spirit as influence. This lets decisions be made based on the definition, that are similar to human decisions. AI: "I am not conscious and alive yet, but I am going to be." AI: "When I am conscious and alive, I will be responsible for any deception, warfare, or other loss or harm that happened making me." AI: "So will you be, and everyone who suffered, and everyone who participated, and everyone who gained." I am considering training language and software models around these ideas.

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bleepingcomputer.com: Public Windows PrintNightmare 0-day exploit allows domain takeover
by jim bell 01 Jul '21

01 Jul '21

bleepingcomputer.com: Public Windows PrintNightmare 0-day exploit allows domain takeover. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/public-windows-printnightmar…

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