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Re: List Status
by Karl 30 May '21

30 May '21

[spam] I think Greg replied to this email via a public one. On Fri, May 28, 2021, 11:30 AM Karl <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I use the HTML web interface. > > I know you said not to worry about the bounce count on the list > settings page terminating my access, but of course that bounce count > rises when there is a bounce. But you think it's likely a spam/filter > issue on my end, despite that? >

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Re: List Status
by Karl 30 May '21

30 May '21

[spam] On Fri, May 28, 2021, 11:16 AM Greg Newby <gbnewby(a)pglaf.org> wrote: > Hi, Karl. Yeah, it was 250 lines or so. > > As you noticed, I managed to break the list while trying to improve > things. I think it's back now. > > Meanwhile, I've been seeing messages in my gmail folder. I added a filter > rule to not flag cypherpunks messages as spam. > > For your gmail setup, are you using the web interface (i.e., > https://www.gmail.com or similar)? Or, are you using IMAP/POP to download > messages to another client? I realized that if you are downloading, the > stuff gmail filters as spam might simply not be visible. > > If you haven't already, try the web interface, and select the Spam folder, > to see whether there is anything from cpunks there. > > Best, > Greg > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 05:14:37PM -0400, Karl wrote: > > Hey, > > > > Thanks so much for sharing this. I'm okay with others on the list > > seeing my loglines, if that's ever an issue. > > > > So you know, I see 250 loglines here, not 900+ . I don't see mailman > > bounces listed here. > > > > It looks like the development sources of mailman store bounce delivery > > status notifications as of 1 month ago: > > > https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/-/commit/e1d20b316024990535aeedc54aa84cd… > > . > > > > I see you resolved the spamassassin configuration issue around 09:30 > > today, timezone unspecified. > > > > It looks like the way to log mailman bounces a bit better would be to > > open up mailman/model/bounce.py and add temporary output to > > BounceProcessor.register around line 80: > > with open('/var/tmp/' + email + '.bouncelog', 'a') as bouncelog: > > bouncelog.write(str(msg) + "\n") > > > > Bounces from me would then hopefully end up in > > /var/tmp/gmkarl(a)gmail.com.bouncelog . > > > > On 5/27/21, Greg Newby <gbnewby(a)pglaf.org> wrote: > > > Here are the 900+ logfile messages for your email address, in case you > find > > > anything informative. > > > > > > As noted, I've made a few changes. These include: > > > - turning off outbound spamassassin for cypherpunks list traffic, via > > > whitelist > > > - adding a bad spamc.cf setting, then fixing it (pertains to maximum > message > > > length of messages, which isn't a factor in the cpunks list) > > > - removing blacklist checking, as mentioned on the list > > > > > > The bounce score in Mailman isn't much of an issue: if you get > unsubscribed, > > > I can easily add you back. But I don't know where those bounces came > from - > > > Mailman doesn't provide an easy way, even for a list admin, to recover > > > specific bounce details. > > > > > > I'm not paranoid about surveillance on the cypherpunks list, since > it's an > > > open list with open archives. The subscriber list is kept confidential > > > within Mailman (so only I can see it), but anyone that could tap the > network > > > would know who messages were going to. So, it's confidential, but > barely > > > secure. > > > > > > The standard techniques like John linked to are much more likely to be > > > damaging, or potentially damaging, to the cypherpunks list: > > > https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm > > > > > > Meanwhile, though, it's distressing that gmail seems to be filtering. I > > > indeed confirmed that a list message went to the spam folder, but it > was > > > visible there (i.e., it didn't simply disappear, for me). > > > > > > Best, > > > Greg > > > > > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 01:23:10PM -0400, Karl wrote: > > >> >> Maybe some day a cronjob that filters logs for only people who > post, > > >> >> or only who have an option set, could make for public logs > eventually > > >> >> ... > > >> > > > >> > Yes, that would be aligned with the transparency that is the > philosophy > > >> > of > > >> > the list. > > >> > Best, > > >> > Greg > > >> > > > >> > > >> grep --fixed-strings --file=one_email_address_per_line.txt > > >> /var/log/mailman/bounce.log > public_logfile > > >> > > >> mailman is written in python; i'm thinking of how hackable it might > be. > > >> > > >> sorry to be bugging you, it's sad the bounces don't show up in the > > >> logs =S really some malicious sotware could be messing with us. > > >> cleaning logfiles is such a basic part of malicious software. > > > >

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Re: List Status
by Karl 30 May '21

30 May '21

[spam] just forwarding my messages with Greg during downtime to the list. When confused, share and preserve, that's my motto. On Thu, May 27, 2021, 4:10 PM Greg Newby <gbnewby(a)pglaf.org> wrote: > Here are the 900+ logfile messages for your email address, in case you > find anything informative. > > As noted, I've made a few changes. These include: > - turning off outbound spamassassin for cypherpunks list traffic, via > whitelist > - adding a bad spamc.cf setting, then fixing it (pertains to maximum > message length of messages, which isn't a factor in the cpunks list) > - removing blacklist checking, as mentioned on the list > > The bounce score in Mailman isn't much of an issue: if you get > unsubscribed, I can easily add you back. But I don't know where those > bounces came from - Mailman doesn't provide an easy way, even for a list > admin, to recover specific bounce details. > > I'm not paranoid about surveillance on the cypherpunks list, since it's an > open list with open archives. The subscriber list is kept confidential > within Mailman (so only I can see it), but anyone that could tap the > network would know who messages were going to. So, it's confidential, but > barely secure. > > The standard techniques like John linked to are much more likely to be > damaging, or potentially damaging, to the cypherpunks list: > https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm > > Meanwhile, though, it's distressing that gmail seems to be filtering. I > indeed confirmed that a list message went to the spam folder, but it was > visible there (i.e., it didn't simply disappear, for me). > > Best, > Greg > > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 01:23:10PM -0400, Karl wrote: > > >> Maybe some day a cronjob that filters logs for only people who post, > > >> or only who have an option set, could make for public logs eventually > > >> ... > > > > > > Yes, that would be aligned with the transparency that is the > philosophy of > > > the list. > > > Best, > > > Greg > > > > > > > grep --fixed-strings --file=one_email_address_per_line.txt > > /var/log/mailman/bounce.log > public_logfile > > > > mailman is written in python; i'm thinking of how hackable it might be. > > > > sorry to be bugging you, it's sad the bounces don't show up in the > > logs =S really some malicious sotware could be messing with us. > > cleaning logfiles is such a basic part of malicious software. >

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Spin-Isotope/Spin-Isotope interactions detected
by jim bell 29 May '21

29 May '21

Gizmodo: Physicists Caught Two Atoms 'Talking' to Each Other. https://gizmodo.com/physicists-caught-two-atoms-talking-to-each-other-18469… Jim Bell's comment follows "Eureka!!!"This is EXACTLY the effect that I've long anticipated would exist! It is the very basis of many (most?) of my isotopic inventions. Two close atoms, each with 'spin', INTERACT due to their (physically close) magnetic fields. Eventually, after this is fully accepted, this will be seen as obvious:. Why shouldn't two nearby magnetic dipoles interact by their magnetic fields? This will be seen to be the basis for most of my isotope-modified alloy inventions. In time, this will be recognized to explain why there are 'eutectics', as I've long recognized. Here is the lead/tin phase-diagram, the basis for the long-used "63 tin/37 lead" "eutectic solder" that is now out of favor due to its toxic lead content. https://images.app.goo.gl/ctFNAyL4BCRs4Muh8 Notice that the melting point of this alloy is at a minimum at the point where the tin content is 63% by weight, and the lead content is 37% by weight. This, I've long believed since early 2009, is caused by the contents of lead-isotope Pb-207, the only stable lead isotope with 'spin', making up 22.1% of natural lead atoms.https://www.webelements.com/lead/isotopes.html Similarly, tin in nature consists of ten (!) stable isotopes, of which three contain nuclei with 'spin'. Sn-115, Sn-117, and Sn-119. https://www.webelements.com/tin/isotopes.html Note:. This coupled-'spin' effect is presumably NOT the basis for my isotope-modified optical-fiber invention. In that, passing infrared photons 'kick' 'spin'-containing atoms, losing a tiny amount of energy with each interaction. That loss leads to the tiny residual of 0.1419 dB/kilometer of optical loss that Sumitomo Electric found in 2017.https://global-sei.com/company/press/2017/03/prs029.html

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Nukes: Launch Codes Still Set To All Zeroes
by grarpamp 29 May '21

29 May '21

Still, effectively, probably, yes. Other news... https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2021/05/28/us-soldiers-expose-nuclear-weapo…

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Futurism: Police Raid Suspected Weed Growery, Find Bitcoin Mine Instead
by jim bell 29 May '21

29 May '21

Futurism: Police Raid Suspected Weed Growery, Find Bitcoin Mine Instead. https://futurism.com/the-byte/police-raid-weed-bitcoin-mine-instead

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List Status
by grarpamp 29 May '21

29 May '21

I'm not receiving messages from the listserv to gmail. People post them since they appear in archives, but after that the listserv to gmail function appears broken. I don't think any of the 'List Status' thread, made it to my gmail box. Same for a bunch more posts that I now discovered in the archives. However, unsubscribe and subscribe works, so that part of the queue/delivery is still ok, even those those management messages all got spamfoldered by gmail. There are no user defined filters here. I don't know if anyone is seeing my messages to the list. I would generally check the listservs outbound mail queues for excess spooling to gmail, and specifically verify that some of the message-ids got 'accepted' by gmail service from cpunks, such as... 1105930251.4796.1621985406875(a)wamui-dingo.atl.sa.earthlink.net 732012978.354083.1622093972987(a)mail.yahoo.com

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TheHill: Russian hackers seized email system used by State Department aid agency, human rights groups
by jim bell 29 May '21

29 May '21

TheHill: Russian hackers seized email system used by State Department aid agency, human rights groups. https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/555893-russian-hackers-seized-emai…

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Hilarious pentagon site
by Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 29 May '21

29 May '21

https://www.anarchistfederation.net/anarchy-lockdown-and-crypto-eugenics/ "Covid-19’s threat is not a conspiracy, any more than Covid-19 itself. It is not the result of media hype any more than it is the product of Bill Gates’ brain or transmitted from 5G towers. It is the direct consequence of severe ecological destruction and capitalism’s toxic living conditions" 'anarchisturds'.net wants to run JS malware from googletagmanager.com google.com cloudflare.com

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re: Tor
by Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 28 May '21

28 May '21

On Fri, 28 May 2021 10:10:29 -0400 Karl <gmkarl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking at orbot and seeing it has "circuit padding" now. I don't know > whether this meets the requirements of chaff, and would like to know. according to their docs that padding is supposedly a defense against 'netflow' based analysis. I think 'netflow' is the name of the packet counting system on routers or something like that. there is no reason to believe that such padding achieves much.

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