January 2021 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

Judge cites Jim Bell brain-damage in decision
by professor rat 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

UK judge describes ' sad fate ' of ' once feisty and intelligent " cypherpunk that was jailed for over 12 years in the US prison system when electing to excuse Assange. " Ten years of the Jim Bell treatment could turn a delicate scaredy-cat, like Julian, into a vacuous, dribbling imbecile - as Bell himself proves ", she said. " I could not in good conscience assist to create any more walking-dead, cypherpunk zombies"

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From the Assange indictment: Is there Extraterritoriality present in the Statutes the Indictment references?
by jim bell 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

From: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1153486/download 15(B) to intentionally access a computer, without authorization and exceeding authorizedaccess, to obtain information from a department and agency of the United States infurtherance of a criminal act in violation of the laws of the United States, that is, aviolation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 641, 793(c), and 793(e).(In violation of Title 18, United States Code, Sections 371, 1030(a)(l), 1030(a)(2),1030(c)(2)(B)(ii).) [end of partial quote] There is a principle of American law, upheld by the Supreme Court, that a Federal law is only supposed to be considered of "extraterritorial" application (applies outside the boundaries of United States territory) if the Congress specifically intended that application, and was signified by including such language within the law itself.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction × "In Morrison v. National Australia Bank, 2010, the Supreme Court held that in interpreting a statute, the "presumption against extraterritoriality" is absolute unless the text of the statute explicitly says otherwise." "https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2016/06/us-supreme-court-cont… http://www.virginialawreview.org/volumes/content/rjr-nabisco-and-runaway-ca… >From that: "The Supreme Court threw out the lawsuit after invoking the presumption against extraterritoriality. That canon of statutory interpretation instructs judges to assume “that legislation of Congress, unless a contrary intent appears, is meant to apply only within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.”[8] In applying the presumption in RJR Nabisco, however, a majority of four Justices[9] rejected multiple indications that Congress intended RICO’s private right of action to extend abroad[10] while raising the bar on what Congress must do to make its extraterritorial expectations clear.[11]" [end of quote] Understanding the presumption against extraterritoriality: https://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1170&conte… Very interesting: https://www.thefacultylounge.org/2019/04/some-thoughts-on-the-extradition-o… >From that:"THE RULE OF DUAL CRIMINALITY: Even if extradition is sought only under the computer intrusion indictment, it will still need to meet the test of dual criminality, found in Article 2, which provides that "An offense shall be an extraditable offense if the conduct on which the offense is based is punishable under the laws in both States." Although computer hacking is no doubt also a crime in the U.K., there is a further wrinkle of territoriality, because Assange's alleged offense was committed outside the United States. Another section of Article 2 provides:If the offense has been committed outside the territory of the Requesting State, extradition shall be granted in accordance with the provisions of the Treaty if the laws in the Requested State provide for the punishment of such conduct committed outside its territory in similar circumstances. If the laws in the Requested State do not provide for the punishment of such conduct committed outside of its territory in similar circumstances, the executive authority of the Requested State, in its discretion, may grant extradition provided that all other requirements of this Treaty are met." Unlike the U.S., however, Britain apparently takes a strict view of territorial jurisdiction. According to The New York Times, Britain has already denied a U.S. extradition request for computer intrusion, on the grounds that the offense was committed on British soil and would therefore have to be tried in the U.K. [end of quote] 18 U.S.C. 641 does not appear to explicitly have an extraterritoriality reference. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/641 18 U.S.C. 793(c), nor the whole 793, does not appear to explicitly have an extraterritoriality reference. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793 × 18 U.S.C. 371 does not appear to explicitly have an extraterritoriality reference. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371 18 U.S.C. 1030 does not appear to explicitly have an extraterritoriality reference. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1030 Jim Bell

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ASSANGE Result LEAKS!
by professor rat 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

In a sensational development the result of the Assange extradition hearing is that he will be either buried alive in Florence Supermax with similar creepy criminals as Ross Ulbricht OR he will be married alive in BoJo's little England. An unhappy island overrun with COVID 19 and security cameras. Such is the fate of cypherpunk traitors.

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New York Post : Pamela Anderson makes 11th-hour pardon plea for WikiLeaks' Julian Assange
by jim bell 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

New York Post : Pamela Anderson makes 11th-hour pardon plea for WikiLeaks' Julian Assange. https://nypost.com/2021/01/02/pamela-anderson-makes-11th-hour-pardon-plea-f… Jim Bell's comment:I've been waiting for many months to be directed to legal filings by Assange's legal defense team. Jennifer Robinson is the Barrister, I believe. I want to find out if the valid arguments I'm aware of are being raised. (Limitations period;. American jurisdiction over statutes which don't claim extraterritorial jurisdiction.)

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Suspected murderer straightens Jim Bell out on anarchism
by professor rat 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

https://anarchast.liberty.me/anarchast-with-jim-bell-assassination-politics… Antivax anarchism - what could possibly go wrong? https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/american-anarchist-j…

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FBI advise Jim Bell to stop making bombs
by professor rat 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

The most controversial talk was Jim Bell’s Assassination Market Politics. He reiterated his 1995 essay, where he outlined how anonymously sponsored assassinations can be voted for online, based on a gambling method. Generally, the audience weren’t very pleased, many people stood up and left the room during his talk. Critical questions were fired and not answered cohesively. The ethics and consistency of Jim’s plan did not line up with the quality of rest of the talks. https://cryptoinsider.media/weekend-cryptoanarchy-prague-hcpp17/

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article-uk-judge-to-rule-on-whether-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-will-be/
by jim bell 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-uk-judge-to-rule-on-whether-w…

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Antivaxxers need killing
by professor rat 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

Mum’s horror as son, 7, covered in blisters and in intensive care with deadly illness linked to Covid The Irish Sun Highly infectious coronavirus mutation from UK now tearing across US A terrifying coronavirus mutation that originated in the UK has made its way to the US, sparking fears of an even deadlier crisis to come. The new ... NEWS.com.au Super-infectious coronavirus variant may have been in US since October The highly contagious mutant strain of coronavirus that was first detected in the United Kingdom and has since spread to other countries including the United ... Daily Mail Coronavirus US: Grim start to 2021 as nation records thousands of deaths, 100,000 hospitalisations The new year is off to a grim start in the United States, where more than 2000 Americans died from coronavirus on the first day of 2021, as hospitals continue to ... NEWS.com.au US braces for post-holiday Covid surge as death toll passes 350,000 The US is braced for a post-holiday coronavirus surge as its death toll passed 350,000, with thousands more predicted to die in the coming month and doctors ... The Guardian Anti-vax criminals need killing - we have a right to destroy those who would destroy us.

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Killing Julian Assange
by professor rat 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

This deadpool is not the end - its the beginning. https://stiffs.com/celebrity/julianassange Then all his spawn and common-law wives have to go ( except the first ) All his Manson-Family women. His parents. All his post 2009 enablers. Aljazeera English. His OG deadenders Backstabber and Bell. Others associated with Nazbol politics - Israel Shamir, Amir Taaki, etc You don't betray the cypherpunk revolution and live. Even in Florence he needs shanking. This isn't over.

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2021 from Brazil...
by Cecilia Tanaka 03 Jan '21

03 Jan '21

I do love you, Cypherpunks List. Sincerely, Tenderly, Like a girl trying learning about a whole new world and several different perspectives... I disagree of some of them, but is fascinating to have so many different people are searching for a better world, without censorship and unfair governments too. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for being so special, even in your more decadent state!!! You and the Cypherpunks will be great again!!! <3 Without you all, a lot of us would be already (suici)died because of the way the society judge our dreams, our fears, our "paranoia" with governments and institutions... Well, this list is very therapeutic, hahaha!!! ;D And in several moments, Cypherpunks List, you are my only source of sexual fun, because really do _fuck_ my patience and my mind, hahahaha!!! ;D (The government also fucks me but it's always a brutal rape, with lots of pain and without condom or consent!) Love each one of you in my own way. Wish you all many tender kisses, warm hugs, and hot chocolate with marshmallows. I ate my last Japanese marshmallow right now and, well, it was gorgeous to feel its taste... Mush less sweet than Brazilian and North-American candies, soft like a hug... :) I do love you all more than you think. That's the reason I am (still) not a spammer serial killer, hahahaha!!! ;D Wish you all sincere happiness, physical, emocional and psychological health, serenity, inner peace, self-love, patience, good sleep, and more love to each other, even when the other sucks... ;) Take care and be well, please. Courage, Strength, Music and Fun. Ceci. <3 ---------- Loving. Caring. Sharing. Being Excellent To Each Other And To Our Hackerspace. <3 ---------- "Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your curiosity. It's your place in the world; it's your life. Go on and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live." - Mae Jemison

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