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Let Chicongo go
by Zig the N.g 26 Jul '20

26 Jul '20

There's an exemplary argument to be made to let Chicongo go... Most folks, lest they see signs and wonders, do not believe.

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Foundations for Action
by Zenaan Harkness 26 Jul '20

26 Jul '20

For those who missed the memo, we're in a conversation. Right now in the West this is a community wide conversation as we face certain critical junctures in history. It is not only poignant and important but literally game changing, and an urgent last minute call to higher principles. For example Kek's meme army memed "the orange man" into the presidency (along with a lot of prayer from those who pray, and certain great sacrifices). Feel free to join this conversation - we will share the outcome, either chaos and rapid destruction, or a steady recovery and rebuild of relationships. Breaking habits can be tough, with withdrawals, headaches, occasional relapses and drying out periods, but with a stern father figure and guiding hand (Putin) we can get through this; we must! Let's also remind ourselves that we are all human. Where possible in this conversation try to help your "opponent" to understand his own words when your "Stupid O Meter" highlights for you how stupid his words are; consider responding with a sentence beginning with "Did you mean ..." or "Are you trying to say that ..." It is convenient to use the "royal we" that is to use "we" (or "our" etc) to refer to either our whole community or any subset - if the true meaning is unclear to you, that's an opportunity to join the convo and ask for clarification. When the royal "we" is used, it often is not meant to imply that the writer is necessarily included in the group referred to. Example 1: Pragmatism ----------------------- Pragmatism has its place, but it often has its price! Pragmatism is in many circumstances a reasonable "default fallback", e.g. when in doubt. Pragmatism also appears to be the dominant old school modality for our trusted deep state allies - yes, we use the word "trusted" in a generous way as not only a figure of speech, but as a prayer for a future for our children of peace between nations; let's call it a pragmatic choice :) The problem with pragmatism is its limits - without the higher guiding principles, "pragmatism" justifies torture, murder, and for example the revolving turnstyle in Iran of regime change de-installing one leader and system for another, followed by later de-installing your new "puppet" and re-installing the old, just to later turn around and do it all again in repeated reversing repetition; and the obvious result is a cluster-check of distrust, instability, international condemnation, and generally fear. All in the name of pragmatism. And this has of course been repeated all over the place including Iraq, Turkey and Libya. Given the West's regime change antics, it is no wonder we are on the precipice of the same sword. The will to use evil on another, justifies that evil befalling ourselves - karma or "do unto others that which you would have them do unto you". Despotic pragmatism has so universally dominated the CIA that the CIA's present Director Gina Haspel has reportedly engaged in / authorized / upheld / publicly supported, torture (named by the despotic euphemism "enhanced interrogation techniques"). One wonders what happened to Ms Haspel in her younger years… Torture must be forever taken off the table, and publicly renounced, unambiguously, and permanently. The Western regime is on the precipice of destruction. We must repent of our evils. We must cast evil from our "toolbox" of foundations for action. We must stop justifying all manner of evils as the means to reach "the 'good' ends". For starters, "our deep state buddies" must actually renounce, and actually refrain from, certain evils including: - torture - extrajudicial killing aka murder - violent regime change of client (or "enemy") states (Feel free to add other evils which we must cast from the West!) Without actually renouncing, denouncing and refraining from, torture (for one example), no mandate from heaven can be in operation (duh!) and instead the wrath of heaven must descend, and if that's hard to understand, pray you be guided as to why righteous humans would uphold, or destroy, a nation. If "you" (CIA, FBI, employees, etc) struggle to find righteous foundations for action within yourself or within your department, you are in urgent need of crowdsourcing some righteousness immediately! Achieving that might mean a public dialog of some sort, possibly whistleblowing, or perhaps something else, but at this point in history we cannot afford to fail on such basic moral/spiritual principles; act accordingly. Some have paid a very high, yet honourable price, their lives: from Seth Rich to the Donbass region for example, and to honour their sacrifices we must do more than carry on as before, we must instead lift our game, live a higher ethic, do all that we can to atone for such evils and to bring forth righteousness. Example 2: Russia blaming --------------------------- There is not much that is more insulting to the plain thinking man than years of ridiculous "Russia blaming" and hoaxing. Not only is it the most blunt tool in the clown box, it is undignified, demeaning, spreading of lies and falsehoods, and from a diplomatic perspective, hands over a continual stream of wins to our "Russkie brothers", which come to think of it is not such a bad thing - for them :/ But remember this my fellow doofuses: every time you dump on Russia, you have given up, lost and foresaken another opportunity for someone in the West (someone of at least nominal authority) to put forth humility, to put forth dignity, to begin the process of ownership and cleansing and therefore the redemption and healing that the West so desperately needs. We cannot afford, politically OR spiritually, to continue spitting on such opportunities for redemption. If you can't immediately find some politician sufficiently non-compromised to take the public soap box for Western dignity and redemption, then get to work and find someone, make someone or mold someone, and while you're at it, turf those who are compromised to the wolves; it's a funny thing about demons, once the righteous start to speak publicly, there's a point at which the demons turn on one another and devour one another (mostly figuratively) and at that point our job of catalyzing redemption is almost done. Example 3: Domination and client states ----------------------------------------- The old testament is "an eye for an eye", the zero sum resource game, "I want the word plus 5%" aka usury and cyclical chaos. The new testament is the Star Trek economy, awesome abundance, discernment and discrimination with appropriately placed (+ neither naieve nor foolish) forgiveness, e.g. of certain debts (once again, Putin has lead the way on this blindingly simple tool). Domination and "client state regime change" is founded in the Old Testament of fear, wrath, war, and the deception of "power as the highest principle". Abundance demands trust in others, even some faith (OMG, shawk!), and admits of healthy group dynamics from nationalism, to vertical integration at every level, to cooperation and bilateral agreements. We are creative, and given at least half a chance we shall bring forth even more abundance and more delights, more joy. Notes: With the recent Russian referendum and the probability of Putin being elected for two additional terms, we in the West have been granted a small yet greatly needed breathing space - IF we use it wisely! We must NOT take November for granted. We EACH play a role, no matter how small; do your bit to lift up another this day, to ease the burden, to remind that we must live better, in truth, in dignity, in righteousness. It's easy to understand, and it's actually pretty easy to do - a little bit here, tiny bit there and we're rolling together in the healthy direction. Let's create our shared world.

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Re: Red Bull - Official Drank o' The Alt-Freakin-Right - "you know you love 'em Ossie sheilas"
by таракан 26 Jul '20

26 Jul '20

> From a non-US perspective, these things like BLM movement means absolutely nothing for us. Some sort of marketing stunt indeed for sodas or similar brands. > > Here we have 'Donbass lives matter'... actually no, they don't really matter to anyone. > > Anyway a minimum of 100k death outside the USA killed by a Nazi army trained by the US military isn't really to be put in balance with a dozen of Black people, US citizens, killed by US police... proof that all this is just pure hypocrisies like always.

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Gaynor: Free Speech update: Garry Burns is bankrup
by Zenaan Harkness 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

Awesome news folks, the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Board (in NSW, Australia) "is on the verge of a catastrophic defeat"!!! Fan, freaking, tastic, BatMan! Not quite there yet on this front, but thousands have contributed from their wallets, from their prayers, and from their moral support to Bernard and his family - they went through some really tough times, even before Covid tought us the meaning of "tough" <:D>. Seriously, Gaynor is a trooper and so many have played their small part. It ain't over yet either! Cancel culture might have just taken a hit, but there's a metric tonne to go yet. Stay the course! Pray, muffas! Pray for righteousness, for justice to prevail, and for those good men under attack to find the strength within to stay the course of truth and justice. Peace, ----- Forwarded message from Bernard Gaynor <personal(a)bernardgaynor.com.au> ----- From: Bernard Gaynor <personal(a)bernardgaynor.com.au> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:15:42 +0000 Subject: Free Speech update: Garry Burns is bankrupt X-Mailer: MailChimp Mailer - **CID932b777af0761ea41511** List-ID: 2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210mc list <2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96210.171997.list-id.mcsv.net> Garry Burns has filed for bankruptcy View this email in your browser (https://mailchi.mp/bernardgaynor/u9ceet3738-840822?e=761ea41511) https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155… Dear Zenaan, Garry Burns is bankrupt. (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) This does not mean that his complaints against me are over. There is still a process to unfold. But it does mean that they could end soon. Then the work of holding the New South Wales Anti-Discrimination Board to account will begin. I have written some thoughts about Burns' bankruptcy here (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) . And this piece highlights (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) the important victories that we have achieved since this farcical saga first began. You will not hear about these victories in the mainstream media. When we take stock, it is clear that the New South Wales anti-discrimination industry is on the verge of a catastrophic defeat. These victories are proof that conservatives can win. They are also proof that those who attack us have complete disregard for the law. However, there is still work to be done. I still have legal costs to pay and still face proceedings in the NSW Civil and Administrative Tribunal, NSW Local Court, NSW Supreme Court and High Court of Australia. If you wish to assist, please donate here. (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) I have also commenced action to examine Garry Burns' financial affairs. I have reason to believe that this may be an explosive process. Stay tuned. On Tuesday night at 8pm I will be appearing on Pellowe Talk to discuss these matters. Tune in online by visiting https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155… and clicking on the live stream. I will also be speaking about my latest podcast which focuses on the attack on free speech and 'cancel culture'. You can view this by clicking below: https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155… Finally, thank you for your ongoing support, prayers, encouragement and generosity. These victories would not be possible without you. Kind regards, Bernard Gaynor Christus Rex! https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155… Facebook (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155… Twitter (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155… Website (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) mailto:personal@bernardgaynor.com.au Email (mailto:personal@bernardgaynor.com.au) https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155… Join the fight and donate today (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/track/click?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) ============================================================ Copyright © 2020 Bernard Gaynor, All rights reserved. Our mailing address is: Bernard Gaynor PO Box 766 Park Ridge, Qld 4125 Australia ** unsubscribe from this list (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa155…) ** update subscription preferences (https://bernardgaynor.us11.list-manage.com/profile?u=2f7e1c8c95718aa1558f96…) ----- End forwarded message -----

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USA status check
by Zig the N.g 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

For those who care, a quick status check on the USA; it's quite precarious: A Stress Test For A Straining Superpower Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org, https://buchanan.org/blog/stress-test-of-a-straining-superpower-138961 https://www.zerohedge.com/political/stress-test-straining-superpower ... From the protests, riots, rampages and statue-smashing of the last two months, it is apparent that millions of Americans detest our history and heroes. Though nowhere in recorded time have 42 million people of African descent achieved the measures of freedom and prosperity they have in the USA, we are daily admonished that ours is a rotten and sick society whose every institution is shot through with “systemic racism.” ...

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Re: Personal Black Box?
by jim bell 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

The following article alleges many things. I think most, and maybe all of them are true. But the problem is that the victims of these incidents cannot readily prove these claims, simply because records (video and audio) are not sufficiently-completely kept. https://www.revolver.news/2020/07/antifa-attacks-michelle-malkin-denver/ Partial quote follows: "What these “tough guys” [conservatives advocating Michelle Malkin bring weapons] don’t understand is that in 2020 America, American patriots demonstrating in favor of the police do not enjoy equal protection under the law compared to violent Antifa paramilitary operatives. Indeed, Malkin points out that unlike the overweight female Antifa member in question, if Malkin had displayed a weapon she would have been arrested and thrown in jail. The general principle involved is known as “Anarcho-Tyranny.” Antifa and BLM operatives are granted the license to loot, destroy, and visit violence upon ordinary Americans, and the police will look the other way. Yet, the second that ordinary Americans begin to defend themselves, law enforcement, generally at the behest of an Antifa-aligned District Attorney, will throw the full force of the United States Justice system at them. In other words, anarchy and no rules for Antifa, tyranny and maximal restrictions for Americans who dare to resist. The security forces will allow Antifa to attack Americans, but will arrest Americans who dare to defend themselves. That is the “rule of law” in 2020 America. The conclusion near the 16:54 timestamp is especially poignant, with Malkin concluding that one “cannot rely on the police.” The only people who can rely on the police in many of these situations, it seems are the Antifa aggressors themselves. [end of partial quote] [Further partial quote] REVOLVER NOTE: As disturbing as this incident is, it is entirely in keeping with our earlier analysis of Antifa: > It is also important to note that despite their [Antifa-style groups] stated self-concept, such groups are NOT truly subversive in the sense of undermining the interests of the ruling class. Middle-class America, and particularly white middle-class America, remains the single force with the expectations and organizational capacity to stand in the way of the corrupt ruling class’ plans for total, full spectrum hegemony over the population. What these groups like BLM and Antifa are doing are increasingly acting as a genocidal paramilitary force on behalf of the corrupt ruling elite to neutralize this last remaining impediment to ruling class control. > These groups are ugly, evil, dangerous, and destructive—but they are NOT fundamentally subversive. The subversive Americans are the emerging elite who dare to speak up against the ruling class and are brutally silenced for it. Indeed, Antifa is not, properly speaking, a group of violent thugs, and they are certainly not the “university snowflakes” that many delusional but well-meaning conservatives like to dismiss them as. The reality is much darker. Antifa functions as a paramilitary force for the corrupt ruling class that controls the United States of America. Read our coverage on how Antifa and BLM strategically used “peaceful protestors” to take over Minneapolis. Michelle Malkin was kind enough to mention this Revolver News piece in a recent Newsmax interview. UPDATE: DENVER POLICE NOW ADMITTED THEY STOOD DOWN TO ALLOW ANARCHY TO PROCEED [end partial quote] Jim Bell's comments follow: In part, my advocacy for making available a device which I call a "Personal Black Box" is to allow people to document misbehavior by cops. Nevertheless, I think it is equally important for people to be able to document misconduct by protestors/rioters. Above, there is a statement: "The reality is much darker. Antifa functions as a paramilitary force for the corrupt ruling class that controls the United States of America." Indeed, there is a historic parallel: The "Brownshirts". "The Sturmabteilung (SA; German pronunciation: [ˈʃtʊɐ̯mʔapˌtaɪlʊŋ] (listen)), literally Storm Detachment, was the Nazi Party's original paramilitary wing. It played a significant role in Adolf Hitler's rise to power in the 1920s and 1930s. Its primary purposes were providing protection for Nazi rallies and assemblies, disrupting the meetings of opposing parties, fighting against the paramilitary units of the opposing parties, especially the Red Front Fighters League (Rotfrontkämpferbund) of the Communist Party of Germany (KPD), and intimidating Romani, trade unionists, and, especially, Jews – for instance, during the 1933 Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses." I think people should be able to document these kinds of incidents, as well. Jim Bell

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"totally normal + non-suspicious" urgent document burning at Houston Chinese consulate - [PEACE]
by Zig the N.g 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

Kek looks on in mild amusement this evening (Ossie time) as a "totally normal and non-suspicious" urgent document burning in multiple barrels at the Houston Chinese consulate courtyard are hurried along by little Chinamen darting in and out of the consulate's offices as the Houston police department look on in mirth - in case anyone gets burnt I guess ... ... which by complete and total coincidence is being done immediately after Trump ordered the consulate closed "within 72 hours". "Oh my, what warm courtyards you have their Mister Consul." I thought open fires were hazardous to the health of cotton stuffed Winnie The Pooh bears, but what would I know? China Furious After US Abruptly Orders Closure Of Houston Consulate Sparking "Unprecedented Escalation" https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-weighs-retaliation-us-orders-c…

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end times "games" - tread very carefully, protect those you care about - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

Tucker Carlson and his children are now on the edge of being targetted again, this time by the NYT/ New York Times/ Jew York Times (literally owned by very wearthy and very well connected, Jews). The reckless attemp by a (((certain faction of this one not so little tribe))) to bring on the destruction of American civil society is an abomination begetting of great karma, but in the meantime we will all pay the price if they succeed. I live in Australia, thus unable to physically help. Those who care about good people, where you can, do your bit where you are in assisting in some small way in the protection of those good people who are targetted. This war is very real, though hard for many to see. The cost of failure is unimaginable to most folks. Jews, pull your own into line: Isaacson is clearly a disturbed individual. You may have (collectively) had ~4500 years of repeated success, but that does not mean things can't change. Beware the wrath of heaven... Tucker Carlson Livid; Dismantles The New York Times Over Alleged Plan To Dox Him https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tucker-carlson-livid-dismantles-new-yor… In November of 2018, an organized Antifa chapter known as "Smash Racism DC" showed up at the home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson - ringing his doorbell as their violent co-founder, Michael Isaacson - who loves dead cops and called for VP Mike Pence's assassination - led them in chants such as "Tucker Carlson, we will fight! / We know where you sleep at night!" https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com… https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiRGs52WSIU Later that evening, the group posted "Every night you spread fear into our homes -- fear of the other, fear of us, and fear of them. Tonight you're reminded that we have a voice. Tonight, we remind you that you are not safe either." https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com… The angry mob would return weeks later to further hassle Carlson and his family. The previous month, Carlson said that he's "not a restaurant guy anymore" because of the constant harassment from the left - including a verbal altercation the Fox News host got into with a man who allegedly called his 19-year-old daughter a "whore" at at a Charlottesville, VA club. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tucker-carlson-hard-going-restaurant… https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/tucker-carlson-man-in-country-club-… Due to the ongoing threats, the Carlsons packed up and moved to a new house in order to keep his family out of harm's way. Except now, Carlson claims that the New York Times is about to dox his family by revealing their new address in an upcoming article. This was his response Monday night: "As a matter of journalism, there is no conceivable justification for a story like that. The paper is not alleging we’ve done anything wrong, and we haven’t. We pay our taxes. We like our neighbors. We’ve never had a dispute with anyone. So why is The New York Times doing a story on the location of my family’s house? Well, you know why. To hurt us, to injure my wife and kids so that I will shut up and stop disagreeing with them," Carlson said, adding "Editors there know exactly what will happen to my family when it does run. I called them today, and I told them. But they didn’t care. They hate my politics. They want this show off the air. If one of my children gets hurt because of a story they wrote, they won’t consider it collateral damage. They know it’s the whole point of the exercise: To inflict pain on our family, to terrorize us, to control, we say. That’s the kind of people they are." Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7IkxdLpJJg The Times has denied the allegation, saying in a Monday night statement: "While we do not confirm what may or may publish in future editions, The Times has not and does not plan to expose any residence of Tucker Carlson’s, which Carlson was aware of before tonight’s broadcast." Smash DC's Isaacson, meanwhile, has an axe to grind after Carlson demolished him on live television in September, 2017: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHIKEHCXfjU In addition to airing his violent fantasies across the internet, a January, 2017 undercover video from Project Veritas captured the now-fired Isaacson encouraging his supporters to "throat punch" conservatives. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/professor-antifa-activist-who-said-its-… "Generally speaking, Nazis will only actually attack people if they strongly outnumber them because Nazis are essentially cowards. So if it's three of them and a homeless guy, they're going to beat him up. If it's one of them and like six other people, they're gonna run the f*ck away," he told the Veritas journalist. Throat punching is just a joke, huh? @lacymacauley seems to think so, but our footage seems to say differently. What do you think? pic.twitter.com/jNPUq1rlQQ — Project Veritas (@Project_Veritas) January 19, 2017 https://t.co/jNPUq1rlQQ And now, if the New York Times does indeed dox Carlson - an unemployed Antifa leader with violent fantasies will know right where to send his angry mob.

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IQNets, Tor, "Dumpster Fires"
by Karl 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

Hi, Long story short: A Tor dev "pastly" on OFTC muted me ("remotecontrolledboy") in their off topic channel relating to asking about an event some years ago with coderman. pastly and I also had some positive interactions supporting users of Tor and did not stop me from slightly raising the bar. I'm thinking of posting something like this in their main channel: "pastly, some of our experienced people running an onion host were recently deanonymized by DHS. zenaan harkness has collected a number of needed improvements to Tor to prevent such deanonymization in a project called IQNets. we understand that handling this is difficult and are happy to eventually resolve it ourselves, but things could go a lot better if we worked together. The history of the nascent IQNets project is stored in the on-chain repositories managed by bsv address 1CQKe1veVPUaxpeYXeqAHnA4SJQpnbfZ2v. dumpster fires are for staying anonymous in many different ways. would you be willing to unmute me in #tor-offtopic?" I tried to post the private key to that address when I posted the exconfidetial repo. Not attached to it. If no clear reply is received by me I'll take it as indication to proceed however I feel. Thank you. - K There is proof inside many peoples' electronics. Proof that a marketing group would contract development of a frightening virus. A virus that responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what people see on their devices. A virus that alters political behavior en masse, for profit.

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America needs a conscience - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 25 Jul '20

25 Jul '20

(North) America needs a conscience. This need is a duty we all share, and we each must do our part, calling out despotism and evil in its many disguises. Patriotic Dissent: How A Working-Class Soldier Turned Against "Forever Wars" https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/patriotic-dissent-how-working-class-… Steve Early and Suzanne Gordon via Counterpunch.org, https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/24/patriotic-dissent-how-a-working-cla… .. Not many on the left favor a return to conscription. But Sjursen makes it clear there’s been a downside to the U.S. replacing “citizen soldiering” with “a tiny professional warrior caste,” created in response to draft-driven dissent against the Vietnam War, inside and outside the military. As he observes: “Nothing so motivates a young adult to follow foreign policy, to weigh the advisability or morality of an ongoing war as the possibility of having to put ‘skin in the game.’ Without at least the potential requirement to serve in the military and in one of America’s now countless wars, an entire generation—or really two, since President Nixon ended the draft in 1973–has had the luxury of ignoring the ills of U.S. foreign policy, to distance themselves from its reality.” ...

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