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Shitstorm
by Ivan Ivanov 24 Aug '19

24 Aug '19

What is your opinion on permissionless decentralized exchange for erc20 tokens? Everyone can list any token in automized way. Everyone is responsible for his own funds and tokens that he/she lists and trades. It is p2p, permissionless, immutable, transparent, decentralized and semi anonymous. If you are interested try this one https://shitcoin.market. Write your comments in the troll box and let the shitstorm begin ;)

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Slate: Major U.S. Phone Companies Agree to Plan to Combat Endless Robocalls
by jim bell 24 Aug '19

24 Aug '19

Slate: Major U.S. Phone Companies Agree to Plan to Combat Endless Robocalls. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/major-u-s-phone-companies-agree…

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The Perfect CryptoCurrency... and the Next Satoshin Punks...
by grarpamp 24 Aug '19

24 Aug '19

On 8/20/19, cypherpunk(a)danwin1210.me <cypherpunk(a)danwin1210.me> wrote: > known problems with current cryptos There are a number of qualities that a true cryptocurrency needs in order to fulfill even the most basic and primary of cypherpunk ancap money etc prophecies... qualities that Bitcoin-BTC does not posess, nor that its current situation is likely to produce anytime soon... BTC is too much dead weight history at this point. It's surviving today only as best of its legacy, not because it's the best that can be. (Some say BTC is playing a coy long game weasling itself in before changing its game again and really dropping the cypherpunk bombs like privacy and scale. But that's a very risky and unguaranteed wait for the world to take, thus not a wise game to accept.) Cryptocurrency, emphasis ***currency***, not a bunch of other bullshit features broadmarket opcodes appeasement etc that muck up its natural ability to power itself rapidly into a disruptive and adoptive new and free global currency. So many coins, including BTC, try to be so many things all in one they die under weight of their own whitepaper feature list that is entirely orthagonal to any cash currency they supposely claim to be, and self defeating since trying to code one feature limits ability to code another well (unless of course it's a generic compute platform upon which all features ride, such platform then by definition not a lightweight crypto *currency* and thus will never succeed as such.) Cash, cash, cash, cash, cash... doused in freedom and privacy... that's what even simple people recognize and want (and happens to be deliciously irresistable, easy to adopt and sell, even to statists)... that very simple wedge must come in lead and forge a disruption path... then all the other application coin can follow alongside nearby in its wake. BTC for example, not being privacy, thus isn't freedom or cash. To many it feels half done, like it's waiting for or deciding on some qualities, if they would make it a true whole, to be able to confirm its own existance. Finding minimum to meet prophecy, not loading it down with lots of app features, is a key to pulling it off... Privacy, uncensorable, unbannable, untraceable, p2p distributed, fair no premine, no governance, no partnerships, not sueable, no staking / PoS, no inflation, negligible fees, no independant side channels, no token layers, no stored blockchain, no bloat, no surveillance, just checkpointed UTXO db formed from incoming mined tx stream, shard elements into distributed hashring lookups as needed, PQC path, and developed only by anons operating entirely within the darknets, pushed out to the world, surviving on its merits alone, no financial backers, no IPO, no voice, just code. Probably ideally, mineable by million of users at home which may mean gearing to CPU GPU or at least non proprietary commodity opensource sub $100 USB ASIC so that users everywhere are the mining cloud to somewhat offset or guarantee against corruptive potential of dedicated mining enterprise rising up (though mining enterprise will not commit suicide, they can be adversarial and beholden to profit, thus hardly in natural alignment to users freedom). Note clearly, governance aka government always fails, from corruption, dead weight, invasion, masses, even compromise, etc... and it failed BTC and all contenders to date in some way or another. To pull it off you either need BDFL in good health for at least 10-20 years post release perhaps with 1-3 cophilosophers as second on deadman... enough years so that it becomes so entrenched and decidedly won that it's well beyond reach of any remaining govt and corporate types trying in vain at clawback. Or a new as yet uninvented nonhierarchical repo to which anyone can permissionlessly commit and where end users define what code modules make up the right release for them... a chaos of forks, a perpetual global convo on which elements people should select to run, where only the least common denominators to meet prophecy would survive as the ongoing consensus with highest height UTXO db. With all the risks that such herd democracy might entail. This option is really too complex and undeveloped to be of use today. Though a genuine cryptocurrency does not need one, a rock solid unwavering blood pact, consistant on point, do or die, global education and outreach community that takes no prisoners, bends no knee, and tows no line, one that only explains why resistance to prophecy is futile... Today there are too many disorganized sheep voices, out for themselves with their own irrelavant blockchain product and generally shilling so much shit... all have forgotten to keep and carry forward the original gangster message that made it possible for them to exist in the first place. They failed to understand they need to contribute back and forever to a solid base to stand on... though pouring water can grow helpful and needed trees, they're creating useless mud instead. The OG must be brought back to heart and held out front at all times and in everything that is done by everyone, under recognition that a true cypherpunk cryptocurrency is the primary enabling goal and sustainer of all their life. Else the adversaries of all of their freedom... government and corporation... will continue to retain and grow subjugation of them. > What would happen if a group of anonymous hackers released free software > for the perfect cryptocurrency that resolves all the known problems with > current cryptos? Users will exchange value into it over time as usual. > What if it contained *provably* secure PKI > infrastructure, as opposed to the current mere assumptions about factoring > and discrete logarithms? Needs more detail, please define. To any meaning being on... Post Quantum Crypto, zero knowledge, homomorphic computation... those may indeed be a long term position... but they have hardly been "proven" aka: fully developed, individually and in combination, widespread cryptanalyzed in the literature, and subsequently presented and deployed worldwide such that enough people (applied cryptos, developers, code libraries, users) can grasp and support it. So long as above it is a *currency only*... cash, it makes it easier to adopt such things as needed, a deployment based on today's typical best crypto suites can migrate to any better via users expecting from education on day one that spending UTXOs forward is the way to enable agility to maintain defensive crypto and improve network protocol. > Would anyone recognize its value? Yes. > Would anyone use it? Yes. (And seems unclear whether importing BTC UTXO as legacy inherit into the new coinbase ala BTCP would be useful in adoption there, perhaps not. And certainly should not be done if it would in any way limit it from becoming a true OG cryptocurrency, don't restrict new design model to accomodate other legacy). > Would entrenched interests spread FUD all over it? Yes. Expect and ignore it. (And McAfee among others did a focus-wasting disservice promoting specific edge coins, tokens, IO's, etc. His voice belongs on agnostic OG stage helping establish true currency ways of thinking and benefits worldwide.) A true honey badger currency doesn't really give a fuck about those three questions. Especially in these early days while time still exists to create one (and an environment around it) that has much more than even odds at ripping through various nests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_badger Over ten years into blockchain has brought a lot more knowledge and tech that could now be mashed together into a simple feature limited and highly effective crypto*currency*. Is a privacy and reasonably globally useful txrate cryptocurrency unstoppable cash so unappealing to develop because for it to succeed they must be disinterested in its control for their own direct profit, leaving the only ones left to do it quietly as the true dreamers, the next Satoshin... Those having ideas on doing anything in that cash space should not hesitate to give it a run. Things like GnuPG, Tor, BTC, OpenBazaar, Augur have shown that privacy, anonymity, money, markets, freespeech, and even cryptopolitics are all at least individually tolerable and feasible. Now it is time to push those limits and go for more grand slam cypherpunkery by putting all the elements together, improving them, making them mass efficient, and unleashing the next wave of operational application space upon the world by no later than say 2025. To that, what is the point of all this appeasing that the cryptocurrency and blockchain space has been doing the last years, of the million people in it but all sheep, this failure to speak in unison to denounce and ignore silly govt regulation over their life their new crypto creation, even such simple thing as their own money... or of trying hope of trick government and banks and corporation into allowing some slow blockchain trojan horse to enter their castle, to risk letting govt make their new "laws" and not you your own, to not woo and convert their princes and maidens to you, to not simply rise and cast off chains when you are already so close... what point this is if you cannot achieve and enjoy it in your lifetime. They have forever, you don't... be, achieve, enjoy... now. And may whoever's first post of such badgers out from the darknet into the world be via the cypherpunks list this time (instead of Perry's censored fiat list). "The Times 03 Jan 2009, Chancellor on Brink of Second Bailout for Banks" "Cryptocurrency: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System."

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Stanford Researchers to Tackle Bitmessage with Anonymous Graph Routing
by cypherpunk＠danwin1210.me 24 Aug '19

24 Aug '19

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitmessage/comments/co8e64/anyone_interested_in_bu… Anyone interested in building a scalable, graph-based anonymous routing feature with us? Hello BitMessage community, We are researchers from Stanford University and we are working on designing private and resource-efficient routing protocols. We are reaching out to you to collaborate and implement a new feature of highly scalable, graph-based anonymous routing algorithm. The idea is simple. The current BitMessage protocol ensures recipient anonymity by sending the same message to all nodes in the network. However, as the network size grows, this approach would be difficult to scale. First, sending the message to all nodes would cause high communication traffic overhead that grows with network size. Second, nodes in the network may be connected by a sparse and non-complete physical communication network (eg. think two geographically distant nodes). To address these issues, we propose to build a routing protocol that sends redundant messages only to a set of neighbors of the intended recipient instead of the entire network, where neighborhoods are defined with respect to some communication graph. However, the neighborhood is carefully sampled with a strong information-theoretic guarantee: an adversary who knows the graph AND sees the neighborhood wouldn't be able to infer which node therein is the true recipient. We have already done some preliminary work on this front, but would love to work with the community to see these ideas manifest in a high-impact real-world protocol. The core idea of the proposed project is based on the segment-based algorithm in Definition 3 of [1]. We will be happy to discuss more details should you be interested. If this is of interest, please reach out to us at mserturk(a)stanford.edu. Thank you! [1] Tsitsiklis, John N., and Kuang Xu. "Delay-predictability trade-offs in reaching a secret goal." Operations Research 66.2 (2018): 587-596. http://web.mit.edu/~jnt/www/Papers/J163-18-kx-secret-goal.pdf

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The Perfect Crypto Currency
by cypherpunk＠danwin1210.me 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

What would happen if a group of anonymous hackers released free software for the perfect cryptocurrency that resolves all the known problems with current cryptos? What if it contained *provably* secure PKI infrastructure, as opposed to the current mere assumptions about factoring and discrete logarithms? Would anyone recognize its value? Would anyone use it? Would entrenched interests spread FUD all over it? Discuss.

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Cryptocurrency: FreeTalkLive Dec 2010
by grarpamp 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ1nTUFkIiA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I00TDypn-GM https://twitter.com/rogerkver https://twitter.com/1Medge1 https://twitter.com/sallymayweather https://www.youtube.com/user/FreeTalkLiveRadio https://www.freetalklive.com/ Free Talk Live is an American call-in radio talk show heard seven nights a week. The program is hosted primarily by Ian Freeman and Mark Edge. They are typically joined by a rotating cast of changing co-hosts. It is a chiefly libertarian anarchist political talk show and topics range from current events to philosophy, from politics to personal issues. Support change, 2010 style ;) https://www.futurist19.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfvnDqY7a5E

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Cryptocurrency: BitGold, BitCoin, CypherPunks
by grarpamp 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dALzcfxkHA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZw4LNLYUgc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYs_zZsorU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inXQAj0Wlno No key, no door, all the way up.

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DeepState: Patrick Byrne Quits OverStock to Hunt Skunks, Avoid Capture, and Drop More Crypto, Again
by grarpamp 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgUjecJtcOY https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-22/overstock-ceo-patrick-byrne-quits… https://saraacarter.com/russia-probe-twist-a-billion-dollar-ceo-a-convicted… https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cu5jbh/what_is_going_on_with_t… http://www.deepcapture.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX3K3zjtlH0 “Starting in 2015 I (operating under the belief that I was helping legitimate law enforcement efforts) assisted in what are now known as the ‘Clinton Investigation’ and the ‘Russian Investigation’ (in fact, I am the notorious ‘missing Chapter 1’ of the Russian investigation),” he wrote, going on to say that this was “the third time in my life I helped the Men in Black.” Overstock CEO was ordered by Peter Strzok, senior level Bureau Officials, and other higher up Senior Officials to engage in political espionage, political blackmail, and an affair with Maria Butina “I have all the answers. I have been sitting on them waiting for America to get there. Last summer I figured out… what they all are is all about political espionage. It had nothing to do with law enforcement, it was all political espionage. Here’s the bottom line. There is a deep state like a submarine lurking just beneath the waves of the periscope depth watching our shipping lanes. And a nuclear ice breaker called the USS Bill Barr has snuck up on them and is about to ram midship.” “That’s about to happen and I think we’re about to see the biggest scandal in American history as a result. But it was all political. Everything you think you know about Russia and Clinton investigations is a lie,” Byrne told Atman. I think the blockchain revolution will reshape key social institutions. We have designed and breathed life into perhaps the most significant blockchain keiretsu in the world, a network of blockchain firms seeking to revolutionize identity, land governance (= rule of law = potential = capital), central banking, capital markets, supply chains, and voting. In three of those fields (land governance, central banking, and capital markets) the word “trillions” comes up when calculating the disruptive opportunity of blockchain. In those three fields, our blockchain progeny (Medici Land Governance, Bitt, and tZERO, respectively) are arguably the leading blockchain disruptors in existence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREbyB6UUu0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU4hwxm-w7E https://overstock.com/ First, and still accepts, Bitcoin.

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Re: [MEMES I TELL YA] - was Re: Trump tweets "Kangz" meme, implies (finally) that it's "OK to be White" - [PEACE]
by Ryan Carboni 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

The US political system is completely rotten, and Trump knows it. He can tweet pictures of a Trump tower in Greenland, as long the moderate right isn’t convinced, no republican congressman could vote for impeachment without being removed themselves. The US may as well have elected a horse as President, the ruling elite has no capacity to govern, or to even persuade (why bring up impeachment if you know it isn’t possible?). Maybe democracy has failed. Maybe the elite has failed. It is a mystery at this point, but from any perspective, betting on the Ivy League educated elites is a bad bet. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

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Trump tweets "Kangz" meme, implies (finally) that it's "OK to be White" - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 23 Aug '19

23 Aug '19

Beast mode: Unleashed. Trump be fist-bumping the Huwaite heavens. Never mind that he gets nothing done except for Israh-ell, reminding us it's OK to be white men of good character is a step in the right direction. Peace yo! FINALLY: Trump Names the WHITE MAN! Calls Out Anti-White Hatred and “King Elijah”! http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/finally-trump-names-the-white-man-calls-out-a… The ackshuall Trump tweets: https://t.co/ZwPZa0FWfN https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1155796277248057345?ref_src=twsr… Do NOT sing the celebration song in your head! ... Ce-le-brate good times, come on! It's a cellarbration. Yo!

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