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Defining God
by Rob Avina 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

Why have we not yet, within science, defined a God? Would it ruin religion, could it make science a religion, will it ruin the concept of superheros? Would it make us, have a belief in something bigger than ourselves, therefore in our own selves more? A cornerstone AA. Simple.Wikipedia has a definition. "According to certain religions and mythologies, God is the creator of the Earth and of everything else..." But what if we just made it real. Just. Describe it, as such. It doesn't define any more or less, the basis for any or even all, the meat of, what most consider religions to be about. It provides the real, human beings, the only ones so far that we know of of course, whom are trying to follow these often millennia old rules, ones we probably helped make... A chance, to at least be working together in doing so. Keeping it simple, and meant to be very additive. So here goes, based on my 45 year analysis, elimination and awareness of most; currently, otherwise described, concepts: God, née, god - That, which surrounds all; within, detectable totality, inhabits us, and governs all unknown laws of our universe. Then link the people, with something like this(check both tabs at the bottom left): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wq_ktBYW_-jS1nkZh-W0unt06-f0nW6mmYZ… I suppose this may be considered really, a very bad idea, by some. I(just me and, Alex Trebek, maybe, he likes his facts like I like my steak, a little rare!) for one certainly prefer it to ... lets say, AP. AP seems like a real PA. That stands for a "Pain in the ASS" Or "Pisspoor Attitude", or "Political Assassination" something long trending, #unfortunately, and not at all new, nor newsworthy. Nowadays the Assassin's name would probably be withheld anyway. Mostly thought, I find it irresponsible and reprehensible, to suggest, that killing people is the way out of our modern day towards the future. Positive acts, should affect positive change. It would seem, that AP, takes away that choice from the masses, much like any assassin. Reasons agnostic. Given a chance, I think, one would like to believe the wise thing to do is eventually NOT fight, and therefore not need to kill, right? Maybe even get a little help, maybe a lot, from the correct others. For preservation of our collective genetic's sake, if nothing else. It is what intelligent beings would do most often, is all it seems to me. Now that we have a chance, and the ability, to talk.

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Heh heh! Democracy exploding in the M/E with our Greatest Ally :D - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

Nothing like some heartwarming democracy for muh grits :D https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7649189/Leaked-footage-shows-Israe… This is the shocking moment an Israeli police officer was recorded shooting a Palestinian man in the back ‘for fun’. Leaked footage, believed to be from the al-Zaim checkpoint outside of Jerusalem, shows the man falling to the floor in howls of pain after being hit with a sponge-tipped bullet. Broadcast on Israeli television, the cruel footage shows border officers shouting at the young man to ‘get out of here!’ in Arabic. One officer then points his rifle at the Palestinian man, who holds his hands up and starts to calmly walk away. However, Channel 13 news agency report that the police then continue to shout contradicting instructions at him as he begins to panic, before one of them shoots him in the back. They report the police as saying the man was not seriously hurt, although newspaper Haaretz reported that he was ‘seriously wounded’. Israeli police said they removed the policewoman from the force after learning of the incident, while other police involved in the incident were re-assigned. ... At a bail hearing at the Jerusalem Magistrate’s Court last year, Judge Elad Persky said the suspect apparently shot the Palestinian ‘as a dubious form of entertainment’, according to Haaretz. Writeup from yer fav chan: http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/israeli-ladycop-shoots-palestinian-in-the-bac…

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[MONEY] Ray Dalio: straightforward explanations of the current financial madness - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

Ray Dalio knows how to communicate, at least in his field of expertise: Dalio: "The World Has Gone Mad And The System Is Broken" https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/dalio-world-has-gone-mad-and-system-broken https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/world-has-gone-mad-system-broken-ray-dalio?a… I say these things because: - Money is free for those who are creditworthy because the investors who are giving it to them are willing to get back less than they give. More specifically investors lending to those who are creditworthy will accept very low or negative interest rates and won’t require having their principal paid back for the foreseeable future. They are doing this because they have an enormous amount of money to invest that has been, and continues to be, pushed on them by central banks that are buying financial assets in their futile attempts to push economic activity and inflation up. The reason that this money that is being pushed on investors isn’t pushing growth and inflation much higher is that the investors who are getting it want to invest it rather than spend it. This dynamic is creating a “pushing on a string” dynamic that has happened many times before in history (though not in our lifetimes) and was thoroughly explained in my book Principles for Navigating Big Debt Crises. As a result of this dynamic, the prices of financial assets have gone way up and the future expected returns have gone way down while economic growth and inflation remain sluggish. Those big price rises and the resulting low expected returns are not just true for bonds; they are equally true for equities, private equity, and venture capital, though these assets’ low expected returns are not as apparent as they are for bond investments because these equity-like investments don’t have stated returns the way bonds do. As a result, their expected returns are left to investors’ imaginations. Because investors have so much money to invest and because of past success stories of stocks of revolutionary technology companies doing so well, more companies than at any time since the dot-com bubble don’t have to make profits or even have clear paths to making profits to sell their stock because they can instead sell their dreams to those investors who are flush with money and borrowing power. There is now so much money wanting to buy these dreams that in some cases venture capital investors are pushing money onto startups that don’t want more money because they already have more than enough; but the investors are threatening to harm these companies by providing enormous support to their startup competitors if they don’t take the money. This pushing of money onto investors is understandable because these investment managers, especially venture capital and private equity investment managers, now have large piles of committed and uninvested cash that they need to invest in order to meet their promises to their clients and collect their fees. ... [Similar clarity on govt health and pension funding ...] ... - At the same time as money is essentially free for those who have money and creditworthiness, it is essentially unavailable to those who don’t have money and creditworthiness, which contributes to the rising wealth, opportunity, and political gaps. Also contributing to these gaps are the technological advances that investors and the entrepreneurs that I previously mentioned are excited by in the ways I described, and that also replace workers with machines. Because the “trickle-down” process of having money at the top trickle down to workers and others by improving their earnings and creditworthiness is not working, the system of making capitalism work well for most people is broken.

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[MONEY] - Living Under The Spectre Of Hyperinflation: 1923 Weimar And Today
by Zenaan Harkness 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

Living Under The Spectre Of Hyperinflation: 1923 Weimar And Today https://www.zerohedge.com/political/living-under-spectre-hyperinflation-192… https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/11/05/living-under-the-spectre-… While world’s attention is absorbed by tectonic shifts unfolding across the Middle East, and as many Americans are brainwashed to believe the 2020 elections are driven by the need to impeach President Trump, something very ominous has appeared “off of the radar” of most onlookers. This something is a financial collapse of the western banks that threatens to unleash chaos upon the world. In my last report, I discussed why the current financial system is on the verge of a 1923-Weimar style hyperinflation driven by Federal Reserve bailouts trying desperately to support a deleveraging of the $1200 trillion derivatives bubble that has taken over the western banking system. I also discussed the Bank of England-led “solution” currently to this crisis involves a new global “green” digital currency with new “rules” which are very similar to the 1923 Bank of England “solution” to Germany’s economic chaos which eventually required a fascist governance mechanism to impose it onto the masses. In this article, I wish to take a deeper look at the causes and effects of Weimar Germany’s completely un-necessary collapse into hyperinflation and chaos during the period of 1919-1923. Versailles and the Destruction of Germany ... After the 1918 Armistice dismantled Germany’s army and navy, the once powerful nation was now forced to pay the impossible sum of 132 billion gold marks to the victors and had to give up territories representing 10% of its population (Alsace-Loraine, Ruhr, and North Silesia) which made up 15% of its arable land, 12% of its livestock, 74% of its iron ore, 63% of its zinc production, and 26% of its coal. Germany also had to give up 8000 locomotives, 225,000 railcars and all of its colonies. It was a field day of modern pillage. ... ... The New Silk Road or New World Order Today’s world sits atop a bubble of unimagined proportions which began to blow in 2008 and has been kept afloat by nothing more than a decade of blind hope mixed with money printing, zero interest rates, speculation and austerity. The PHYSICAL economic basis supporting the money system has been crippled due to 40 years of post-industrial consumerism rampant across the west. While it is admitted that the U.S dollar cannot remain the reserve currency for the world as it has from 1945-present, those same central banking forces from London have admitted that if their plans for a “one-world” green digital currency is not forced onto nations, then China’s Yuan and the New Silk Road will shape the new system. ...

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Social Credit Scores? - North Bristol NHS health service trust - treatment to be withdrawn from "racists" and "sexists" - [MINISTRY] [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

You thought China was bad? Sexism is now a yellow card offense, along with racism, "threatening and offensive language" and "racist or sexist language, gestures or behaviour". A second offense gets a red card, at which point treatment is withdrawn "as soon as safe" - i.e., as long as you won't die as you walk out the door. Sexist will NOT be tolerated by Britain's National Health Service! Wrongthink will be eradicated with these gender sensitive and inclusive medical care policies. UK's National Health Service To Deny Treatment To "Racists" And "Sexists" https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uks-national-health-service-deny-treatm… https://summit.news/2019/11/05/uk-national-health-service-to-deny-treatment… “We’re sending a strong signal that any racism or discrimination is completely unacceptable – we want staff to challenge and report it and we want everyone to know that it will have consequences,” ... As Jack Montgomery highlights, “In late 2017 an NHS patient who requested a female nurse to carry out a cervical smear complained when the hospital sent a person with “an obviously male appearance… close-cropped hair, a male facial appearance and voice, large number of tattoos and facial stubble” who insisted “My gender is not male. I’m a transsexual”. ... The problem here of course is that the definition of what constitutes ‘racism’ or ‘sexism’ gets broader with each passing day. ... Foster parents have also had children removed from their care by the state because they were supporters of UKIP and not vehement supporters of “multiculturalism.” The University Hospitals Bristol NHS Foundation Trust also ordered that the British flag be removed from security staff stab vests after one person complained that it was “offensive.” This is even worse than China’s social credit score, which to my knowledge doesn’t yet punish people by withdrawing medical treatment if they engage in wrongthink. First it was deplatforming people from social media websites, then it was deplatforming people from bank accounts and mortgages. Now it’s deplatforming people from hospital treatment. ...

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Mailing Lists Dying - Yahoo: Get Your Archive Copy and Requests Now
by grarpamp 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

"Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user created content on its sites." "All public groups will be made private or restricted." https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html Verizon is zero featuring and privating all of Yahoo's public mailing lists. https://groups.yahoo.com/ https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Yahoo!_Groups As before, you can search for and scrape lists of interest yourself. Or post a link to the specific lists and people will scrape them.

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Re: Scientists Accidentally Recreate Big Bang Detonation in the Lab
by Razer 06 Nov '19

06 Nov '19

404: https://www.ucf.edu/news/ucf-researchers-discover-mechanisms-for-the-cause-… I think whoever wrote the article made up a link. Tis a pity. Just think ... the Pentagram could have weaponized it at blackhole size cost-to-the-taxpayer and... Rr Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail On November 5, 2019 12:47:07 PM PST, jim bell <jdb10987(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >https://futurism.com/scientists-accidentally-recreate-big-bang-explosion > > >Scientists Accidentally Recreate Big Bang Detonation in the Lab >------------------------------------ > >That's a stupid headline. They did nothing of the sort. >And yes, I have to laugh at people who worry that 'scientists will >create a new Big Bang that will swallow the Earth'!They, too, will do >nothing of the kind.Big black holes do swallow in matter and energy. >Tiny black holes, far smaller than a neutron, are enormously >exothermic.They will break up in 10E(-24) second, with virtually nobody >aware of that, except for scientists who read their instruments. > Jim Bell

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Clueless "engineers".
by jim bell 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

With a laser, researchers say they can hack Alexa, Google Home or Siri https://news.yahoo.com/laser-researchers-hack-alexa-google-131738948.html

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The Fed's DCoin - dissertation - diddling $$ "facts" - more "not"QE helicopter money mo/mo than 2008 - [MONEY]
by Zenaan Harkness 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

So the Fed's helicopter money (for now for "banks only" still) QE program is in top gear already, with endless headlines about "not QE" and "everything's fantastic, just a little insurance money printing". But of course, between the lines, the fact is that in comparison to QE-1, QE-2 and QE-3, this QE-"officially not QE", aka QE-4 aka QE-infinity, is now pumping out MORE "not QE, just insurance" dollars than at the very peak of the post-2008 global financial crisis QE money printing exercises, on a month for month comparison basis. We're "not doing QE, please believe" and yet the money printing, just a couple weeks after "NOT QE!" started, is already above previous all time highs. "Not QE"? Now -that's- hysterical muh grits :D More like "this is QE infinity helicopter money, we might have to do QE for the people soon too (MMT, people's QE, "a living wage for all", UBI, universal basic income, etc), as this is the last dying gasp of the present methematically intended chaos so grab it while it's hot, mkay?" :D Literally if any of us did such money printing, this would be called counterfeiting. But this is the inglorious "Federal Reserve Bank" which, for those who got the memo, is neither federal, nor a reserve, bank. The Fed' is a private bank. Further, the Fed' and its "federal" minions, are beholden to the BIS, the Banco de Internationale Settlemente, or in English, the Bank of International Settlements, which, of course, is another private bank! HA! I know, I know, "if only I'd thought of that" you're thinking :) The BIS, le banc de White Knight, the ultimate granter of SDRs (special drawing rights aka "print to yer heart's content" money printer-feiting), the last hope of the mega oligarchs and Goldman global hedge trimming money sachs, diligently developing a new global digital coin: "why thank you my dear cypherpunks, you have certainly been generous to provide a genuinely global coin minting tech - we are most pleased, now, kindly, do fuck off and pay your taxes!". Digital Currencies, Stablecoins, and the Evolving Payments Landscape Governor Lael Brainard Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System Speech, October 16, 2019 https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/brainard20191016a.htm The Globalist One World Currency Will Look A Lot Like Bitcoin https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-27/globalist-one-world-currency-will… Central Banks: Own Digital Currencies for Global Payments... https://www.americanexpress.com/us/foreign-exchange/articles/digital-curren… Fed Official Says Digital Central Bank Currency Is 'Inevitable ... https://www.coindesk.com/fed-official-says-digital-central-bank-currency-is… US Lawmakers Ask Fed to Consider Developing 'National Digital Currency' https://www.coindesk.com/us-congressmen-ask-fed-to-consider-developing-nati… ["US lawmakers ask" - now THAT's hilarious! They are told -exactly- what to ask, "and get the effing legislation started before I whip yer arse!" Firetruckin' deceiving puppets! ] Guess whose (or is that whoms ? :) the BIS belongs to? -- Lord Jacob de Rothschilds Lord of the bankers, Deign of de Red Door, banker of (all Western) bankers, le officiale Order from Chaos master (daŋkə schön Lucifer), ready and willing to prance in on a white horse (<cough>Bretton Woods<cough>) and (re)institute - a NEW, - fabulous, - chaos decimating - all singing - all prancing ponzi, I mean pony, - to save your world with another cycle of order pre ordained to end in yet another cycle of chaos, then order then .... <rubs hands gleefully> FedEggsellent </> [ s/Lord Jacob Rothschild/his sons/ per preference ] "Aaand ... it's gone!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVk25ZvTkU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FOth96O0bg Me thinks a few folks might be gettin' just a wee wee pee pee poo poo little fed up (no pun intended) with Monty Burns' Fed! Tired o' bein' a slave yet, human? Or ready to LEAP into yet another order-chaos-order century? Let's see what humans are capable of choosing in the next couple fedeggcellent years :) Sleepwalking Toward A Crisis - Got Gold? Sun, 11/03/2019 https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/sleepwalking-toward-crisis-got-gold http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/sleepwalking-toward-a-crisis-got-gold/ ... But for those who don’t have their head in the sand, clinging desperately to the “hope” offered by the misdirecting Orwellian propaganda, it’s difficult to ignore the message signaled by the legendary levels of insider selling. Someone is not telling the truth – The Fed once again last week increased the size of both the overnight and “term” repo operations. Starting Thursday (Oct 24th) the overnight repos were increased from $75 billion to “at least” $120 billion and the term repos (2 week term) of “at least” $35 billion were extended to the end of November, with two “at least $45 billion” term repos thrown in for good measure. The Fed is also outright printing helicopter money for the banks at a rate of $60 billion per month (via “T-bill POMOs”). At the height of the last QE/money printing cycle, the Fed was doing $75 billion per month. So whatever the problem is behind the curtain, it’s already as large or larger than the 2008 crisis.. ...

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Call for ideas: How do we deal with the forged Cypherpunks email archive?
by jim bell 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

The response (or, perhaps in many cases, the lack of it) on this list to the discovery of the amazing fraud of the forgery of (at least) the 1995 version of the Cypherpunks archive has been, well, amazing. I get the impression that there has been a certain...lack of enthusiasm for this task. At least, not nearly enough useful commentary. No, I don't necessarily expect that the forgers are still here, but maybe their ideological and political 'allies' remain. Put simply, maybe 'statists' didn't and don't like AP, and they want to do anything possible to delay or defeat it. And, they know or guess that some of their ilk were presumably acting in 1995, engaging in discussings that the government (?) eventually wanted to conceal. They did not want to leave a not-so-paper trail. Their ideological brethren on CP, today, if any, want to continue to conceal and protect those 1995, and the data forgery that subsequently happened. Take this with the levity I intend. I ask that each of you provide suggestions as to what to try. But I don't want to give you an easy out by saying that if you cannot think of anything you, personally, can accomplish, you are excused. If you have a good idea, and you throw it out to us, somebody else might like it, add to it, and maybe even accomplish it. Think of this as brainstorming, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainstorming . At the same time, some of you might be reticent: Eventually, I believe we will identify those responsible for misconduct on the list in 1995, but also those people who forged and faked the archives. I want to expose the people who, now, are in league with them. Think of this as a Rorschach test. You will likely be judged, by others, based on the credibility of the proposals you make. I have already identified the problem, and made a number of suggestions. I'd say it's YOUR turn. >From the article on brainstorming: "Osborn's method: Osborn claimed that two principles contribute to "ideative efficacy," these being: - Defer judgment, - Reach for quantity. [6] Following these two principles were his four general rules of brainstorming, established with intention to : - reduce social inhibitions among group members. - stimulate idea generation. - increase overall creativity of the group. - Go for quantity: This rule is a mean of enhancing divergent production, aiming at facilitation of problem solution through the maxim quantity breeds quality. The assumption is that the greater the number of ideas generated the bigger the chance of producing a radical and effective solution. - Withhold criticism: In brainstorming, criticism of ideas generated should be put 'on hold'. Instead, participants should focus on extending or adding to ideas, reserving criticism for a later 'critical stage' of the process. By suspending judgment, participants will feel free to generate unusual ideas. - Welcome wild ideas: To get a good long list of suggestions, wild ideas are encouraged. They can be generated by looking from new perspectives and suspending assumptions. These new ways of thinking might give you better solutions. - Combine and improve ideas:As suggested by the slogan "1+1=3". It is believed to stimulate the building of ideas by a process of association. [6] | | | | | | | | | | | Brainstorming In other words, brainstorming is a situation where a group of people meet to generate new ideas and solutions ar... | | |

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