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Re: Economic Value of Unrealized Technologies
by rooty 16 Nov '19

16 Nov '19

HI JIM - oopsy -------- Original Message -------- On Nov 15, 2019, 1:35 PM, Jim Bell wrote: > Please get spelling help. > > On Nov 15, 2019 1:15 PM, rooty <arpspoof(a)protonmail.com> wrote: > >> Please get phychological help >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On Nov 15, 2019, 1:08 PM, Ryan Carboni < ryacko(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What is the economic value of unrealized technologies? It would be >>> nice if there were a "multi-stakeholder" examination of them. >>> >>> This is where inflation versus economic growth gets tricky. >>> Productivity in terms of quantity versus a number of units per year is >>> immeasurable, and the calculations involved become disturbing. >>> According to insurance companies, your nationality can determine your >>> value as a person. >>> >>> Regardless though, if medicines were discovered that would nullify the >>> point of much medical research or treatments, what is the economic >>> value of that? The sales cost, or the decrease in national income >>> expended? >>> >>> Still, I don't really trust the decisions made by pedophiles, >>> particularly if they impact me in an adverse fashion.

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[PEACE] - You mean we got the wrong "John"^B I mean "Abu"?
by Zenaan Harkness 16 Nov '19

16 Nov '19

>From the "Act before you think because that will help create PEACE" dept. Wrong Abu? IDF ‘investigating’ after wiping out Gaza family of EIGHT, incl. 5 kids, in raid on presumed Islamic Jihad commander https://www.rt.com/news/473571-israel-bombs-family-mistaken-identity/

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Economic Value of Unrealized Technologies
by Ryan Carboni 16 Nov '19

16 Nov '19

What is the economic value of unrealized technologies? It would be nice if there were a "multi-stakeholder" examination of them. This is where inflation versus economic growth gets tricky. Productivity in terms of quantity versus a number of units per year is immeasurable, and the calculations involved become disturbing. According to insurance companies, your nationality can determine your value as a person. Regardless though, if medicines were discovered that would nullify the point of much medical research or treatments, what is the economic value of that? The sales cost, or the decrease in national income expended? Still, I don't really trust the decisions made by pedophiles, particularly if they impact me in an adverse fashion.

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From the USA to Australia, County Gov's siezing and selling homes - for $8.41 in one case - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 16 Nov '19

16 Nov '19

This is sad. This is what The Inglorious West has come to. This is "capitalism" and "government" in just one of its insidious combinations. County government seizes home over $8.41 in unpaid tax When an 83-year old retiree paid his property taxes late, he miscalculated the interest owed to the county government. All told, he was $8.41 short. Yes you read that correctly, i.e. less than nine dollars. So the county seized the home over that trivial amount. Then they sold the man’s home at auction for $24,500, even though the house was worth about $128,000. But the county didn’t just keep the $8.41 they were owed. They kept the entire $24,500. Although this was the most egregious case, the man found out he was far from alone. The county has been systematically robbing homeowners, selling their homes, and keeping the proceeds over much smaller tax bills than the homes are worth. In case you’re wondering, the county in question is Oakland County, Michigan, which is part of the Detroit area, and one of the most fiscally vanquished municipalities in the country. (Detroit even declared bankruptcy in 2013.) This highlights a very important lesson: when governments are broke, they will plunder the wealth of their citizens in order to make ends meet, even if it means stealing a retired man’s home. Full article here: Retired Man's Home Seized Over $8.41 In Unpaid Property Taxes https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/retired-mans-home-seized-over-841-un… https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/retired-mans-home-seized-over-8-41-in-u… ... San Francisco commuter arrested for eating a sandwich ... New York Cops brag about big drug bust… of legal hemp ... China assigning Communist officials to sleep with detained men’ wives Coming to a town near you....

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[MINISTRY] 'Islamophobia' - turning critique of a religion, into a crime - [PEACE]
by Zenaan Harkness 16 Nov '19

16 Nov '19

There's this one little secret tribe has a secret little phobia to being discussed, talked about and exposed for their beliefs. Mention anything else at all and he ignores you, but highlight his one little phobia and he shrinks back in shock - "I've been exposed!" And no, this is not Islam nor the Allah Hu Akbar jihadis. And with the legend of a virgin birth and even his mother a virgin birth, and purportedly historical reports of Jesus being a blonde haired blue eyed rebel, not a hebe, when we ask What would Jesus do - well he certainly wouldn't creep around in the shadows trying to shut it all down (see Google's latest Youtube 10 Dec 2019 deadline to close all "not economically viable Youtube accounts"). Buddhist, Bahai, Sikh? Nope. I'm scratching my head but just can't be sure ... let's see if le article provides any insights: Europe: The New Political Weapon Of 'Islamophobia' https://www.zerohedge.com/political/europe-new-political-weapon-islamophobia https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15159/islamophobia-political-weapon France is once again profoundly divided over Islam. Last Sunday, November 10, a "March against Islamophobia" was held in Paris in response to an appeal from 50 public figures. In an op-ed in the leftist newspaper Libération, the demonstrators pleaded to "stop Islamophobia and stop the growing stigmatization of Muslims, victims of discrimination and aggression". ... The op-ed sparked a national debate. How could these established public figures sign a text alongside known Islamist sympathizers, such as Nader Abou Anas, an imam who believes that "women can only go out with the permission of their husband", or Marwan Muhammad, the former CEO of the Collective against Islamophobia in France (CCIF) -- an organization suspected of links with the Muslim Brotherhood -- who compared the situation of Muslims in France today with those of the Jews in Germany in the 1930s, going so far as to add that "in France, mosques are machine-gunned" ("mitraillé")? ...

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Exploiting Intel's Management Engine by KaKaRoTo re INTEL-SA-00086
by grarpamp 16 Nov '19

16 Nov '19

https://kakaroto.homelinux.net/2019/11/exploiting-intels-management-engine-… https://kakaroto.homelinux.net/2019/11/exploiting-intels-management-engine-… https://github.com/kakaroto/MFSUtil https://github.com/kakaroto/IntelTXE-PoC https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/advisory/intel-sa-0… https://kakaroto.homelinux.net/ "I’ve been working for a while now on trying to reproduce the Intel vulnerability that PT Research has disclosed at BlackHat Europe 2017 and I’ve succeeded and wanted to share my journey and experience with everyone, in the hope that it helps others take control of their machines (and not the other way around). ... While in this post, you saw the release of the MFSUtil project and the ME 11.x port of the IntelTXE PoC, in the next one (either tomorrow or Friday), I'll release a lot of the tools and scripts I used to work with JTAG, so you can do more easily poke at the ME processor without fighting against the limitation of the OpenIPC library."

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Cryptocurrency: Cypherpunks, Money, and Bitcoin with Szabo
by grarpamp 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZgq0mtD18

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Cryptocurrency: Needs UTXO databases, CCDEX, etc [re: Anon $75M to Dev Tech]
by grarpamp 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

> https://www.unknown.fund/ > Unknown Fund - Press Release 11/13/2019 > [snip] In addition to developing and moving the entire cryptocurrency space away from legacy non-privacy non-anon first generation tech... such as, say, the interesting failure to use TLS etc in their transports against rampant surveillance... Cryptocurrency also needs to develop and move away from the obscene transaction-based perpetual growth of first generation blockchains... away from the still unwieldy, risky and even faulty predictive claims that phones and computers will keep up, that in some cases give excuse to continue use of central or even faux-distributed "light wallet" lookup models and dependencies ala SPV, the current requirement that ever growing Terabytes of such chains exist in perpetuity for UTXO validation back to their Genesis Blocks... such TB's of data easily datamined for privacy, censorship, abuse, and subject to future unforseen privacy exploits, and a pointless storage and transport offense laid upon everyone... To blockchains that regularly checkpoint, bring forward, and mine the UTXO's into an ongoing UTXO state database, discarding all old transactions whose outputs have all been spent. Consider it a sort of "coinbase input" reference similar to what was done with BTCP's import of BTC UTXOs on day one, but one that is now continually mined forward with consensus into a database structure. Such databases could be distributed into a network structure, and or held in clients, etc. It may be possible to manage a hashed series of n-week old UTXO datasets, or even move to mining UTXO's forward directly from the transaction stream into an atomic database. Such UTXO database and operations could parcel out its functions to miners, relays, clients, wallets, DHT, Encrypted Overlay Transport and Storage Networks such as I2P, IPFS, etc... as needed for computation, distribution, query, bootstrapping, etc. The development of UTXO databases will immediately cut all future [ir]responsible speculation on the storage question... from the legacy thinking of "all historical transactions needed", down to the more sensible and narrower fact of only "all UTXOs needed"... which is a vastly smaller and slower growing amount of space. Keep in mind that a "currency / cash / gold / etc", purely monetary coins function... do not care about what tx history went into making the current state, only that the current state, the nominal values held in hand for future use over the network, is valid. And that purely monetary coins are sufficient for their own purpose, skipping all the other pile-on design-limiting functions such as token carriage, where so merited for a monetary success if need be. In that case, see below regarding DEX. There seem to be some formation of ways to do UTXO databases as some whitepapers are now speaking to the subject. They are hard to find due to immature terminology and space flooding. Feel free to create and curate a list of such papers for others to refer to. The combination of the following technologies, among others... - Privacy Coin tech (for all the fine reasons, in protocol, by default) - Blocksize and other TX tech (to handle expected transaction rates) - UTXO Database tech (to not blow out the ecosystem later on) - Cross-Chain Distributed Exchange tech (for all the fine reasons) - Secure and Overlay Transport tech integration (for all the fine reasons) - Anything enabling Secure Comms and Meetups (for all the fine reasons) ... should bring the cryptocurrency space into a much better position to tackle, uphold, and carry out the reasons it was created, and the prophecies it is to fulfill. Bitcoin-BTC, and most of today's other coins, may be unlikely ones to introduce such tech, at least not without some laughably embarrasing public backtracking, or such complete reboot and coinbase reinput so as to be new anyway... ever. Coins aren't really pluggably design and feature modular yet, as such, most leaps in tech progress still need to be ground up. With true cross-chain DEX (CCDEX's) combined with the rest of the above tech, it doesn't matter which set of coins end up doing it, users will trade into them, letting all legacies and incapable proposals and failures, rightfully die. Cryptocurrency is moving into its second decade and still presents an extremely rare opportunity. Do not let those windows close due to certain legacy models, say... of FUD, rulers regulating, spying, power, lack of security, self-interested shitcoins, etc... exploit them to win, for all the world's people.

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Google plans to cancel accounts on commercial viability
by Ryan Carboni 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

I don't know what that means. If a lawsuit occurs, won't Google have to disclose financial metrics in court? Would this mean that people should have the right to choose their own ad vendor for YouTube? I'm not a lawyer, but wouldn't accounts subject to frequent and improper DMCA takedowns (mostly reviewers) have the greatest cost? So Google will probably have to bill hours to each account to be non-arbitrary? But I'm sure Google hires the best lawyers.

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Intel Fucks Up Jump Conditional Code Cache, New ucode
by grarpamp 15 Nov '19

15 Nov '19

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-jcc-gaming&num=1 https://github.com/intel/Intel-Linux-Processor-Microcode-Data-Files Intel is today making public the Jump Conditional Code (JCC) erratum. This is a bug involving the CPU's Decoded ICache where on Skylake and derived CPUs where unpredictable behavior could happen when jump instructions cross cache lines. Unfortunately addressing this error in software comes with a performance penalty but ultimately Intel engineers are working to offset that through a toolchain. Users flock to AMD.

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