September 2017 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

Money the Root of All Evil? Not With Buddhist Coin.
by Cecilia Tanaka 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

# Money the Root of All Evil? Not With Buddhist Coin. https://cointelegraph.com/news/money-the-root-of-all-evil- not-with-buddhist-coin "Money and religion often leads to corruption, but now there is the “Karma Token” to stop this."

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Privacy invading hardware is "ok" since they're private companies and have a "click yes" policy - was Falkvinge on Infopolicy
by Zenaan Harkness 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

The war marches on. Good luck folks, Zenaan ----- Forwarded message from Falkvinge on Liberty <noreply+feedproxy(a)google.com> ----- From: Falkvinge on Liberty <noreply+feedproxy(a)google.com> Reply-To: Falkvinge on Liberty <rick(a)piratpartiet.se> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:21:00 +0000 Subject: Falkvinge on Infopolicy Falkvinge on Liberty /////////////////////////////////////////// Hardware maker: Give up your privacy and let us record what you say in your home, or well destroy your property Posted: 30 Aug 2017 11:00 AM PDT http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Falkvinge-on-Infopolicy/~3/K5X-Q7MMSiU/?utm_… Privacy:Hardware maker Sonos has a new privacy policy, and is telling users that unless they agree to it, their devices may cease to function entirely. Of course, since people bought these objects, theyre those peoples property. And since Sonos is taking an action that they know will break these devices, Sonos is effectively saying theyll willfully destroy your property unless you comply and give up your privacy. This is a new low. Sonos is a high-end sound system maker, famous for being the first brand to have synchronized music in different rooms with an off-the-shelf device system. This week, they announced a new privacy policy, where they say theyll be collecting a lot of data about you, including listening in to your room and (in a roundabout way) recording it. People were justifiably quite upset. It is in response to this community reaction that Sonos does the unforgivable: Sonos states that if people dont accept the new privacy policy meaning give up their privacy in their own home completely Sonos is going to willfully destroy those peoples property. The customer can choose to acknowledge the policy, or can accept that over time their product may cease to function, the Sonos spokesperson said, specifically. Sonos is particularly sneaky about the part where they record sound. They say in their blog post that they dont keep the recordings of sound recorded in your home, with the new Voice Assistant. However, they point out that they share their collected data with a large number of parties, the services of which you have requested or authorized where people tend to read requested, but where authorized is the large part. Further, they point out that they share recorded sound with Amazon under all circumstances, and Amazon is already known to keep recordings for later use by authorities or others, so the point is kind of moot. We dont keep the recordings, we let others do it for us would be a more straightforward wording. As ZDNet notes, the communitys reaction has been quite hostile to the manufacturer who threatens to destroy their property, and not without justification. For my personal purchasing choices, behaving like this is enough to get on my blacklist of manufacturers, just like when Sony willfully infected its customers with rootkit malware in 2005, and Sony made it onto my blacklist. (Its a high bar to get there, and still, hardware makers keep inventing new audacious ways to clear that bar.) Syndicated Article This article was previously published at Private Internet Access. (This is a post from Falkvinge on Liberty, obtained via RSS at this feed.) -- You are subscribed to email updates from "Falkvinge on Liberty." To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now: https://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailunsubscribe?k=6jnmdaCtotQWwCIRiTE4TB… Email delivery powered by Google. Google Inc., 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, United States ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: Banned accounts on pastebin -- and Google-censored websites like Cypherpunks
by Zenaan Harkness 01 Sep '17

01 Sep '17

I don't know, it's a random list, but to take a guess, I can imagine some folks don't like how I just speak my mind. If you check out the "cypherpunks" mailing list, you will see a few very vocal individuals, one e.g. calling themselves "Razer" (not his real name), and he consistently flings around ad-hominems like "You're a Nazi" whilst refusing to actually engage in the debates or questions that are raised, and, similarly, Razer fully supports Noam Chomsky's declaration that "some facts are less equal than other facts," and therefore that you are a "problematic person" if you engage in discussion around those other facts that Noam doesn't like. It is astounding thta in this so-called "age of enlightenment, some people are strongly taking such anti-science positions, including "world renowned" professors such as Noam Chomsky - for this particular example, see the thread starting here: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-August/038838.html See how "relatively normal" people recognize this statement by Noam: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-August/038962.html And see in particular how Razer recognizes this statement: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-August/038968.html And finally, note how if you google search for the first part of that message's Subject, e.g. "Noam Chomsky again shows his fascist chops", you get this response: No results found for "Noam Chomsky again shows his fascist chops". Even if you add "site:cpunks.org" to the end. Google is censoring cypherpunks and other websites where people express politically incorrect views for example "all facts should be treated equally as facts and analyses for their scientific relevance/ utility" - such assertions are dangerous to TPTB. Good luck, and be careful whom you trust, Zenaan On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:11:43AM +0200, Mark McCarron wrote: > Hi everyone, > If you are receiving this email, then your name was found on a pastebin > aimed at clearing out trolls and other people from security related > mailing lists. See here: > https://pastebin.com/Wy98Q3TJ > Now, I created a new form of theoretically secure cipher. So, I am > wondering what your crime was? > --- Free, fast and secure email: https://www.eclipso.eu

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