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Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?
by Georgi Guninski 07 Mar '21

07 Mar '21

Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls? I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it appears to support this. Why so? I don't see enough "value" in the list for such attack, short of just propaganda playground.

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[OT] [song] Patti Smith - People Have The Power
by Cecilia Tanaka 13 Dec '20

13 Dec '20

https://youtu.be/pPR-HyGj2d0 Patti Smith - People Have The Power I was dreaming in my dreaming Of an aspect bright and fair And my sleeping it was broken But my dream it lingered near In the form of shining valleys Where the pure air recognized And my senses newly opened I awakened to the cry That the people / have the power To redeem / the work of fools Upon the meek / the graces shower It's decreed / the people rule The people have the power The people have the power The people have the power The people have the power Vengeful aspects became suspect And bending low as if to hear And the armies ceased advancing Because the people had their ear And the shepherds and the soldiers Lay beneath the stars Exchanging visions And laying arms To waste / in the dust In the form of / shining valleys Where the pure air / recognized And my senses / newly opened I awakened / to the cry Refrain Where there were deserts I saw fountains Like cream the waters rise And we strolled there together With none to laugh or criticize And the leopard And the lamb Lay together truly bound I was hoping in my hoping To recall what I had found I was dreaming in my dreaming God knows / a purer view As I surrender to my sleeping I commit my dream to you Refrain The power to dream / to rule To wrestle the world from fools It's decreed the people rule It's decreed the people rule LISTEN I believe everything we dream Can come to pass through our union We can turn the world around We can turn the earth's revolution We have the power People have the power ...

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"total breakdown of fabric of society"
by Zenaan Harkness 26 Nov '20

26 Nov '20

"The Alt-Right is simply Zionism for White Europeans. Jews have an ethnostate with a wall and Jew-only immigration. If you hate the Alt-Right you must be an anti-semite." “We’ve never seen Richard Spencers like this before. We are witnessing the rise of a new breed of Spencer.” -New York Times “There’s a feeling in the air, as if Spencerism is going to unleash a hellish inferno of rebranded white supremacy on Texas.” -USA Today WaPo: “Texas is reaching a type of ‘Maximum Richard Spencer Overdrive,’ which at best will result in a national existential crisis. At worst, we could be facing a total breakdown of fabric of society, inducing a Walking Dead type scenario.” -Washington Post http://www.dailystormer.com/live-at-texas-am-the-dawn-of-richard-spencer/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlbLNWIFEY0 ~800MiB ("best") -- * Certified Deplorable Neo-Nazi Fake News Hunter (TM)(C)(R) * Executive Director of Triggers, Ministry of Winning * Weapons against traditional European values: http://davidduke.com/jewish-professor-boasts-of-jewish-pornography-used-as-…

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60 Missles, 60 Seconds, $100M
by grarpamp 19 Oct '20

19 Oct '20

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-launches-missiles-syrian-base-after… https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/63xaqh/us_launches_missiles_at_syria… “Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.” -Dwight D. Eisenhower

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WATCH LIVE: Former CIA Director Testifies At Open Hearing On Russia Trump Collusion Investigation
by b0z0＠SDF.ORG 17 Oct '20

17 Oct '20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qogsfuz6UTs b0z0(a)sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

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freedom of speech - from Australia to The Netherlands - Geert Wilders criminal trial, opening statement
by Zenaan Harkness 11 Oct '20

11 Oct '20

youtube-dl --all-subs https://www.youtube.com/embed/pJwoygYdTmY (default max quality is ~160MiB - choose alt if too big) Nationalism is a thorn in the side of the hegemonic empire, and the simple question, when you are a watched / listened to human, can land you in criminal court, as Australia's Bernard Gaynor knows only too well. (Besides the comments, this only links to the video above: http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/09/25/geert-wilders-opening-statement-for-his… )

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[WAR] The ministry of truth: NATO liberation of Libya, 2011
by Zenaan Harkness 29 Jun '20

29 Jun '20

If the following were not true, we'd be incredulous that someone would propose such an unbelievable and lame movie plot. Sadly, this is what North America and NATO stand for. I Thought NATO “Liberated” Libya in 2011? http://journal-neo.org/2016/08/04/i-thought-nato-liberated-libya-in-2011/ “Operation Unified Protector is one of the most successful in NATO’s history… We have done this together for the people of Libya, so they can take their future firmly and safely into their own hands. Libyans have now liberated their country. And they have transformed the region. This is their victory” - Former NATO Secretary General, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, speaking in October, 2011. http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_80052.htm “In Libya, the death of Muammar al-Qaddafi showed that our role in protecting the Libyan people, and helping them break free from a tyrant, was the right thing to do” – US President, Barack Obama, speakingin October, 2011. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-obama-foreignpolicy-idUSTRE79L0MH20111023 “I am proud to stand here on the soil of a free Tripoli and on behalf of the American people I congratulate Libya. This is Libya’s moment, this is Libya’s victory, the future belongs to you” – Former US Secretary of State and Democratic Nominee for President, Hillary Clinton, speaking in October, 2011. https://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/10/19/172519.html On August the 1st, US warplanes bombed Islamic State (IS/ISIS/ISIL) targets in the Libyan city of Sirte, almost exactly five years after Western imperialists declared NATO’s 2011 war in Libya a complete success. http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/17/nato-s-humanitarian-intervention-in-libya… These strikes are not the first conducted by the US in Libya this year, in a broader campaign that is officially aimed at defeating an enemy that the US had a major hand in creating in the first place (I’m sure the military-industrial complex isn’t complaining however). Peter Cook, the Pentagon’s Press Secretary, said in a statement released on the 1st of August in relation to the strikes that: http://www.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/881794/… “Today, at the request of the Libyan Government of National Accord (GNA), the United States military conducted precision air strikes [which is Orwellian/Pentagon-speak for dropping bombs (not uncommonly on civilians)] against ISIL targets in Sirte, Libya, to support GNA-affiliated forces seeking to defeat ISIL in its primary stronghold in Libya… The U.S. stands with the international community in supporting the GNA as it strives to restore stability and security to Libya.” Wait a minute though, have I missed something? I thought Libya was “liberated” in 2011 and the country is now a beacon of ‘freedom and democracy’ for the Middle East and North Africa? Are the Libyan people not enjoying being “free from a tyrant;” similar to the liberty the Syrian people will experience if Assad the ‘tyrant’ is overthrown and the country is handed over to al-Qaeda? Since the future belonged to the Libyan people in 2011, is the country not a vibrant and prosperous democracy today? Is Libya not one of the major hubs of the Mediterranean, with trade booming and flocks of tourists travelling from across the world to sample the delights of the country – from the fascinating culture of the indigenous people to the stunning (I must admit) Roman ruins? I thought the standard of living for the average Libyan was much higher than it was before the tyrant was deposed? Is Libya not helping to build the African continent up to try and alleviate the millions of people who live in poverty? I thought the “most successful” campaign in NATO’s history meant that terrorism could not gain a foothold in the country, considering the Western alliance spends the majority of its time (after antagonising Russia that is) talking about fighting terrorism? I thought NATO’s love-bombs only hit the baddies, and never killed or maimed any civilians? Are the Libyan people not enjoying the fruits of another Western foreign policy success story? Are the Libyan people not enjoying the stability that always follows a Western war of aggression? I thought the Libyan “kinetic military action” was yet another triumphant imperial endeavour, just like Afghanistan, Iraq and the numerous other countries that were lucky to be the targets of Western ‘humanitarian’ forces? Steven MacMillan is an independent writer, researcher, geopolitical analyst and editor of The Analyst Report, http://www.theanalystreport.net/ especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”. http://journal-neo.org/

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Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!
by jim bell 17 May '20

17 May '20

What a relief!!!Thank heavens for leaks!!! Jim Bell

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CIA agents sell 20 tonnes of plastic explosive to Libya, nearly decade before discotheque bombing
by Ryan Carboni 22 Jan '20

22 Jan '20

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Arms_for_Libya The Arms for Libya case ensued when a gang of CIA deep state operatives were caught shipping a huge amount of weapons and explosives to Libya. Edwin Wilson was hung out to dry by Ted Shackley and the rest of the cabal. After a FOIA request revealed the CIA knew perfectly well what he was doing, he was released after about 17 years in jail. He was never given compensation and those responsible for the cover up were never brought to justice. Before his 1980 retirement, the CIA Inspector General John H. Waller produced an internal investigation which exonerated Theodore Shackley and his "career-long deputy and sidekick" Thomas Clines. This was the CIA's official story for about 20 years, endorsed by Waller's successor, the #3 man in the CIA, Charles A. Briggs who was called on to testify in Edwin Wilson's court case. The CIA had blocked the defense from gaining access to any contradictory paperwork, so the jury apparently believed the (perjured) 'Briggs Declaration' which said that Edwin Wilson has independently collected almost the entire US stockpile of C-4 (plastic explosive) and arranged to fly it to Libya, all without CIA knowledge, following up by sending US troops to train of Muammar Gaddafi's military in bomb making, and sold them a bunch of other weapons. This official narrative fell apart about 20 years later when an internal document surfaced which proved that the CIA Inspector Generals had been lying. Frank Terpil was tried and found guilty in absentia. Douglas Schlachter plead guilty to two charges in a plea deal, after providing testimony directly linking Wilson to "senior Central Intelligence officials" (presumably Ted Shackley and his sidekick Thomas Clines, who in 1981 both admitted that they had kept in touch with Wilson, though they denied knowing anything about the arms deals). Edwin Wilson was hung out to dry and charged as the main culprit. CIA officer, Edwin Wilson, brokered a number of weapons deals to Libya. Michael Ruppert wrote that Wilson lived in Libya "for extended periods between 1977 and 1981". The most extraordinary of these deals was in 1977, when a 42,000 pound load of C-4 plastic explosive (an amount which represented almost the entire US domestic supply) was flown out of Houston International Airport to Muammar Gaddafi's Libya, followed by training in bomb making by US Green Berets. Subsequent deals involved handguns and other weapons. A scheme to ship more than a thousand M16 rifles to Gaddafi put the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms onto Edwin Wilson back in late 1977. After about 17 years in jail, FOIA requests by Edwin Wilson came across some internal paperwork which proved that those involved in the case knew that the "Briggs Affidavit" was a lie. These sufficed to allow Wilson to successfully appeal his conviction. In October 2003, his conviction on the explosives charge was overturned and Wilson was released from prison on September 14, 2004. He launched a legal claim for compensation against those who perjured evidence against him, and those who knowingly stayed silent on the matter, but they were granted legal immunity and he never received compensation. Copyright https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Wikispooks:Licensing The CIA did a lot of dirty things. If Snowden was a Russian agent, not a CIA agent, why was he insistent on protecting the CIA? The CIA did a lot of dirty things. All the Russians have to do is expose them. What the CIA did would bring down the American government ten times over. I have no doubt hundreds of US government employees spent innumerable man-years dealing with the aftermath of Snowden, but it served no real point. I personally find it mysterious that the Russians would invent the idea that AIDs was the product of the CIA when there are just so many horrible... https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/02/citizen-four-the-making-of-an-ameri… To quote: You will see it only as a blow against surveillance state, and not as a propaganda film that, on the one hand, protects the CIA at Snowden’s behest while, on the other hand, exploiting him and turning him into the celebrity he did not want to be.

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The heart of a Scotsman - George Galloway, The Chilcot Report: What Next?
by Zenaan Harkness 06 Jan '20

06 Jan '20

The wheels of "democracy" when it works, when someone with heart, patience, tenacity and a strong sense of justice (a mighty lot to ask, so we can be very grateful for this man of principal) such as George Galloway, is an event worth witnessing, given how rare such events are. George Galloway you have been vindicated. Thank you for speaking so clearly. "Mr Blair: This Is For Iraq (Video)" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVNmy5-2va8 (Youtube link also here: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/mr-blair-iraq/ri15485 )

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