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1984! US Senate Launches Forfeiture and Crypto / Cash / Assets / Prepaid War
by grarpamp 01 Dec '18

01 Dec '18

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1241/text http://www.article78againstnydfs.com/advocacy.php This is a new bill that was introduced on the floor of the US Senate entitled, Combating Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Counterfeiting Act of 2017. It basically says everything is evil.. Cash is Evil Bitcoin/Crypto is Evil Prepaid Phones are Evil Gift Cards/Vouchers/Coupons are Evil These people are certifiably insane. Among the bills sweeping provisions, the government aims to greatly extend its authority to seize your assets through Civil Asset Forfeiture. CALL YOUR CONGRESS AND SENATORS TO TELL THEM TO NOT SIGN THIS, EMAIL WORKS AS WELL, DONT HAVE TO BE IN THOSE STATES TO SEND A GOOD MESSAGE https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/members https://cohesionsoftware.github.io/ A two minutes phone call to the local U.S. senator's office can prevent the sort of debate that happened in Florida (and compare that with how it happened in New Hampshire) https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6hbis7/us_congress_going_full_198… https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/6hbhnp/americans_heads_up_congr… https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6hccra/senate_bill_s_1241_is_a… World government's getting scared of world's peoples, crypto, etc... Except for NH, for now at least... http://reason.com/blog/2017/06/13/new-hampshire-exempts-bitcoin-and-other

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[WAR] Yugoslavia - Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (by the ICT)
by Zenaan Harkness 08 Oct '18

08 Oct '18

USA destruction of countries - in recent times in our consciousness and the public discourse are the following: - Iraq'a WMDs (non existent) - Libya's "liberation" from its civil war - Syria's chemical weapons (supplied by the CIA it turns out) But the war to destroy Yugoslavia has only just ended with the International Criminal Tribunal's case against Slobodan Milošević finally ending. USA, you have an extremely large debt to the world. ** Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…) ------------------------------------------------------------ by Quintus Curtius on Wed, Aug 31, 2016 Those of us who had some involvement in Bosnian peacekeeping efforts many years ago might be astonished to learn that, after all the propaganda, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) finally exonerated Slobodan Milošević of wrongdoing in the Bosnian War of the early 1990s. This result is nothing less than shocking. The full text of the judgment can be found here. Read more » (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…)

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Re: [WAR] US government set on complete destruction of Ukraine
by Sean Lynch 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:41 PM, <xorcist(a)sigaint.org> wrote: > > No, this is Putin's baby. He's set it up so that if he can't have > Ukraine, > > nobody will. > > No, it is quite likely that the coup in Ukraine was instigated and > organized by U.S. interests. > > There are a lot of interests that would have good reason to do so. > > Economic: Soros, Geithner, and pals have been looking to depress the > Russian currency for years. At least back to 2008, that I am aware of. One > can speculate why, the simplest reason is to make money themselves. > > NATO: Yanukovych's government was Russian-leaning, while there were > "Orange Revolution" leaning politicians, activists, and so on in Western > Ukraine. Having Ukraine be Russian-leaning, and theoretically independent > puts NATO in a difficult position. Poland and Romania are NATO members, > with Ukraine right between them. For supply-line and airspace reasons, it > is strongly desirable to NATO interests to bring Ukraine under the > umbrella. This also provides another, angle of attack on Moscow. > > Understand the situation: NATO is encircling Moscow. Estonia and Lativa to > it's NW, Lithuania due-West, with Belarus as a buffer. Both countries are > positioned to place rockets within 800km of Moscow. If Ukraine were to go > NATO, it also would be able to position rockets or troops within 800km of > Moscow from the SW, with no buffer. Assuming Russia is unconcerned about > Lithuania, trusting Belarus to be able to intercept any aerial attacks, > that still leaves the possibility for simultaneous attacks from two > directions. > > It is entirely unacceptable, from a purely strategic of view. These > nations going to NATO represents an existential threat to Russia. > > Putin's response, of "taking" Crimea, was quite measured, in my opinion. > The Black Sea is of vital national interest. Were NATO able to get a > carrier group into the to Black Sea, along with the other listed > positions, it would be impossible to stop the capital from getting > captured in an invasion. > > Finally, your suggestion that Putin is somehow not letting the "poor > Ukrainians" from exercising their rights is blinded. The fact is, there > are BOTH strong pro-Western, and pro-Russian sides to Ukraine. This is not > a recent development. The tensions have been there for several > generations. > > Whether you like it or not, it is Putin's job to protect his country and > to prevent the very ABILITY for foreign nations to have that potential, > regardless of whether or not you believe NATO has the will to do so. > Regardless of the will, it should not be POSSIBLE from Russia's > perspective. > > That said, it is also arguably NATO's job to expand, and to position > itself so that Russia joining NATO, becomes the only strategy left to the > Russians. > > This, of course, is called Empire I staked out a stronger position than I actually hold, a hopefully forgivable mistake in response to Zenaan's black-and-white "Russia good, US evil" propagandizing. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

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Signal on the Desktop, Plays FBI Subpoena
by grarpamp 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/10/04/2144202/encryption-app-signal-wins… http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/signal-subpoena-privacy-gag-order/ https://apnews.com/2bed090d3ec042cab375278b636ff5e5/US-subpoena-tests-priva… http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/05/technology/subpoenas-and-gag-orders-show-… https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/open_whisper_docume… Signal, widely considered the gold standard of encrypted messaging apps, was put to the test earlier this year when a FBI subpoena and gag order that demanded a wide range of information on two users resulted in a federal grand jury investigation in Virginia. The makers of Signal, Open Whisper Systems, profoundly disappointed law enforcement. The app collects as little data as possible and therefore was unable to hand anything useful over to agents. "That's not because Signal chose not to provide logs of information," ACLU lawyer Brett Kaufman told the Associated Press. "It's just that it couldn't." "The Signal service was designed to minimize the data we retain," Moxie Marlinspike, the founder of Open Whisper Systems, told the New York Times. The subpoena came with a yearlong gag order that was successfully challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union. Signal's creators challenged the gag order as unconstitutional, "because it is not narrowly tailored to a compelling government interest." The challenge was successful. In addition to being popularly considered the best consumer encrypted messaging app available, Signal's technology is used by Facebook for Secret Conversations, WhatsApp for encrypted messages, and Google's Allo. Confronted with the subpoena, Marlinspike went to the ACLU for legal counsel. The ACLU responded with a letter saying that even though Signal did not have data the FBI sought, it still strenuously objected (PDF) to the fact the FBI wanted so much information.

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"Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children
by Razer 07 Jul '18

07 Jul '18

A friend of mine about her four year old: "My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering" Rr

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tough love - how Trump handled GOP opposition to Drain the Swamp legislation, turncoats put in their place
by Zenaan Harkness 31 Jan '18

31 Jan '18

------------ Policy / strategy #1 for Donald Trump, his big ticket top shelf #1 item (besides build the wall) is Drain the Swamp There be a very slight wee chance that a few GOP partisans will cross the floor, oppose Trump's Drain the Swamp legislation, and thereby demonstrate on the public record their utter contempt for the people and their completely selfish, self centred, self interested selves to the world. Fortunately this particular problem has a ready and simple solution (if you feel this be worthwhile and appropriate, please pass it on if you have any Team Trump contacts). a) Put all his KEY Drain the Swamp legislations / changes up for parliamentary vote, as early as possible in his first 100 days of presidency. b) Collect ALL those Drain the Swamp provisions that FAIL to pass, and put each of them into a REFERENDUM of and for the people. Simple. That just put the Republiturnies AND the Demosluts in their place! ------------ Those who have followed my views will recognise this position as one I wholeheartedly support: " Back before our civilization despised itself, we applauded tough men. But you can’t produce tough men – or honorable women – without tough love. If you want to keep civilization, you better start by insisting that boys grow up " http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/11/04/full-text-milo-ohio-state-universi… It is awesome that this message is getting some pretty serious public exposure. In the immortal words - "Hell yeah!" ------------ And an update from the Ministry ... the Ministry of Winning, that is :) What Trump Means http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/11/16/what-trump-means/ " It happened. We won! We now live in the Age of Daddy! Leftists, of course — even those who aren’t still crying in the shower or looking for a razor blade — remain clueless about what it all signifies and how it happened. " " Protesters - Just when you think the Left has done everything in its power to drive typical American voters to the right, they reach into their bag of tricks and pull out a surprise. The kicker is that for the most part, these protesters don’t even vote. " " Hoaxers - Do you have any idea how poor your hate crime hoax story has to be for an increasingly partisan Snopes.com to say it’s untrue? " " Establishment Republicans have a clear future: tough primary elections against Trump-like opponents intent on draining the swamp. " " The Democrat Party - followed Hillary’s lead in labelling everyone who didn’t agree with them racist, sexist, Islamophobic, and every other identity politic epithet they could think of. Some of us knew this meant the “basket of deplorables” would grow to include essentially everybody in America, but many were shocked to eventually see themselves lumped in with the worst offenders, as decided by the extremists who run the Democrat party. " " Celebrities - Meanwhile, Sir Patrick Stewart set phasers to hyperbole, arguing that Trump is “one of the worst things to happen in the last 100 years,” apparently forgetting individuals like Stalin, Mao and Hitler. " " The media - Or browse the Twitter timeline of Michael Tracey, a former Vice reporter who refused to back Hillary after she defeated Bernie Sanders, and spent the rest of the election highlighting the media’s failure to fully grasp the Trump phenomenon. Despite being one of the only lefties to get it right, Vice fired him shortly after the election — for being too mean to Lena Dunham! " " The Deplorables - Trump will take a $1 salary as President, and in his first week as President-elect has Canada and Mexico agreeing to revisit NAFTA and Russia agreeing to not stage a nuclear war. Not bad for a first week on the job. " -- Certified (R) Deplorable (TM) Fake News (TM) Which Hunter (C) Executive Vice Secretary, The Ministry of Winning Shilling for buxom Russian swastika clad minxes (C) 1988

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"Razer", the biggest / intensest fascist on the cypherpunks list
by Zenaan Harkness 05 Jan '18

05 Jan '18

Razer, you are the most fascist "idiot" (I'd prefer to say worse things, but I'm currently convinced you're just a marijuana fucked brain with legs) on this list. On the other hand, you've had very interesting contributions - also in the area of historical protests/ punch ups etc. So one might be forgiven for being somewhat conflicted about you. Bong on I guess... like, duuuuuuuuude! * Citation i Call to murder on the spot. Justification that "they don't debate your position", whilst of course Razer fails his own mass debate principle. Unfortunately there's no second option from hypocritical fascists like Razer, including no option to actually debate (see examples below). Subject: Re: Why Fascists Have No Right To Free Speech Whatsoever [was - Re: free speech 'marches on' as they say] On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 06:06:46PM -0800, Razer wrote: > Because they don't debate your position. > > They threaten your life instead. > > They have no interest in your position. You have no rights. > > Kill them when you find them. > > They are the human societal cancer they accuse others of being. > > It's always 'those other people'. Then one day you're 'those other > people'. > > Rr * Citation 0 Razer supports murder of those whose political ideology disagrees with his own (in this case, what he terms "fascists") - see last sentence in the quoted email: Subject: #RichardSpencerPunchingBag [Was: Re: The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries] On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 04:52:11PM -0800, Razer wrote: > On 01/23/2017 12:15 PM, John Newman wrote: > > > The onus is not on Razer to disprove your ahistorical nonsense. I > > didn't mention the curious fact about the jewish finns and the > > nazis to bolster your bullshit. > > > > Have a horrible fucking day :) > > > > > > John > > > > Wouldn't have even seen this but you responded to 'it'. > > It isn't worth the response except to say the Hashtags > #RIchardSpencer and #RichardSpencerPunchingBag are being suppressed > by Twitter and FB because either A> They'd overtake #JustinBieber, > B> some safe space neonazis and their liberal friends complained it > would promote violence. > I can tell by the failure of 'dropdown recommendations'. to > materialize. Even on the name. > > I want to point out that all the liberals tsk tsked Richard Spencer > being used as Punching Bag but the crickets chirped in their good > german brains when a union organizer in Seattle got shot by one of > those scumbuckets while trying to deescalate a fight... I KNOW > which side liberals are on, and they're perhaps even an easier kill > than neonazis, but I digress... > > I also want to point out it's NOT just a fine old American > Tradition to kill fascists... * Citation 1 "Razer" celebrates the public beating and later murder of a man so convicted of his beliefs that he speaks publicly about those beliefs, and starts a political party in support of those beliefs: > ----- Forwarded message from Razer <g2s(a)riseup.net> ----- > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:49:10 -0800 > From: Razer <g2s(a)riseup.net> > To: "cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org" <cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org> > Subject: [TriggerWarning: #NaziPunching] Great Nazi punchers in history... > yy > SDSU student Ed Cherry smacked the shit out of George Lincoln Rockwell > in the middle of a speech at San Diego State in 1962. > > > Self-styled American Nazi party leader George Lincoln Rockwell was > > slugged, hissed and booed when he spoke in the Greek Bowl March 8, as > > he hurled verbal blasts at minority groups to a crowd of about 3,000. > > > > Rockwell said that he had no intention of causing trouble. "If I had > > wanted trouble I could have worn my uniform with my armbands and the > > whole works. Believe me, I know how to stir people up if I want to," > > he said. > > > > > > Rockwell was slugged in the face by Ed Cherry, a SDS (San Diego State) > > senior physical education major, when Rockwell said that "the Jews are > > engaged in a great conspiracy." > > > > A press conference followed in the Aztec office. Rockwell predicted > > that he will be in political power in Virginia within five years > > ROTF He was a DEAD NAZI five years later! > > Archival info @ SDSU > > https://digital.sdsu.edu/index.php?a=ViewItem&i=90684&WINID=1485279750430

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Do you have predictions about 2017?
by Georgi Guninski 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

Niels Bohr allegedly said "Predictions are difficult, especially about the future". Do you have predictions about 2017? Being certified optimist, I predict fuckups, fuckups and more fuckups.

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[POLITICS] [RUS] God Praise America ! Russian Paralympians banned
by Zenaan Harkness 03 Oct '17

03 Oct '17

Hoo yah! We LOVE America. God bless America!!! Belarus Athletes Carry Russia Flag in Support of Unjustly Banned Paralympians http://russia-insider.com/en/belarus-athletes-carry-russia-flag-support-unj… (Alt: https://www.rt.com/sport/358613-belarus-russian-flag-paralympics/ ) Nope, no dirty American laundry here folks - move along now! On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 02:08:38PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:11 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> wrote: > > > If anyone wanted an example of propaganda and political bullying: > > > > > > "The IAAF and now the sports bodies of the US and Canada are not only > > > demanding that Russian athletes prove their innocence before they can > > > take part in the Games. They also demand that even if athletes prove > > > their innocence, they should only be allowed to take part in the Games > > > as “neutrals” and not as Russians. Thus even if proved innocent Russian > > > athletes would have to deny their nation and their country – foregoing > > > the right to wear its colours or hear its anthem if they win." > > > > > > http://theduran.com/stalinist-witch-hunt-russian-athletes/ > > > > > > > > > (I'm not sure anyone takes seriously the assertion that USA basically > > > does not use propaganda, only speaks truth and righteousness - I find it > > > quite amazing that such an assertion was even put in this mailing list > > > but I guess it's possible -some- people do believe that...) > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 06:07:05PM +0000, Sean Lynch wrote: > > Participate as a country, dope as a country, get banned as a country. Maybe > > Russia should clean its house if it wants representation at the games. Or > > if the institution itself is illegitimate, why do Russians want to > > represent their country so badly at the games? > > > > Oh well, the IOC refused to ban "the entire Russian Olympic team, > regardless", but ultimately "justice" is served - with the banning of, > wait for it, > > the entire Russian --Paralympic-- team. > > > YEAH! > > > Now -that-'s "justice", right Sean? Punish those paraplegic bastards! > Every last one of them, whether guilty or not!!! > > YEAH! U! S! A! Delivering JUSTICE to THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > God -damn- we need to be greatful to America! > > And what a wonderful world we live in... so much empathy, harmony and > justice. > > > > God Praise America!!! > > > (Yes, AND you, CIA, you snivelling grovelling sluts! Thank you SO much > for this effective, decisive and ultimately just and righteous, psyops > campaign. Fucken A!) > > > > > > ** Vladimir Putin slams Paralympic ban; Congratulates Russian athletes > (http://theduran.com/putin-slams-paralympic-ban-congratulates-russian-athlet…) > ------------------------------------------------------------ > By Alexander Mercouris on Aug 26, 2016 02:00 pm > russia paralympics > > Russian President Putin has just given a scathing assessment > (http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/52765) of the collective ban > on Russia’s Paralympic Team. > > In doing so he has made it quite clear that he – like most Russians – > sees the ban as purely political and completely rejects the reasoning > behind it… > > “The decision to disqualify our Paralympic athletes goes beyond law, > morality and humanity. It is quite simply cynical to take out one’s > revenge and frustration on people for whom sport has become their life > purpose and whose example gives hope and self-confidence to millions of > people with disabilities. I even feel pity for those who take decisions > of this kind because they do not understand just how degrading this is > for them.” > > (Bold italics added) > > The words “revenge and frustration” quite clearly show that Putin sees > the campaign to ban the Russian Paralympic team as an act of spite and > revenge for the failure to achieve a collective ban of the Russian > Olympic team. > > The Russians have made it clear that they do not agree with the legal > reasoning of the CAS decision upholding the ban, > (http://theduran.com/court-arbitration-sport-upholds-ban-russian-paralympic-…) > and that they will continue to contest it in the civil courts and in the > European Court of Human Rights. > > As I have said previously, there is no doubt the Russians will pursue > legal action to its conclusion in this affair > (http://theduran.com/trying-ban-team-russia-olympics-big-mistake/) . > With the International Paralympic Committee looking at a disastrous > failure of the Paralympic Games in Rio and apparently short of money, it > may not be in good shape to contest whatever court cases the Russians > bring, or to pay any court awards the Russians might win. > > In addition to his comments about the Paralympic ban, Putin also made > some very interesting comments about the Russian athletes who competed > in the Rio Olympic Games > > “We know what a difficult time our athletes had in Rio. The team was cut > by nearly a third just before competition was about to start and lost > the chance to show its ability in the sports in which Russia has > traditionally been one of the recognised favourites. But you measured up > to all of these challenges, showed great unity and proved that victory > can be won not just by numbers, though numbers were important too, but > perhaps more importantly, victory is also won through skill. You > displayed a true fighting spirit, did not melt down or bend under the > pressure, but fought and won.” > > (Bold italics added) > > The words “showed great unity” surely refer to the point I have made > previously (http://theduran.com/russian-olympians-defy-odds-rio/) : that > not a single Russian athlete has succumbed to the pressure to turn > informer in return for the reward of a guaranteed place in the Rio > Olympic Games and a lucrative sports career in the West. > > What that means is that the entirety of the evidence that there is or > was a state-sponsored system of doping in Russia is that contained in > the McLaren report, which CAS has already said is “incomplete” and > cannot be used as evidence in deciding the fate of individual athletes. > That puts the IAAF, WADA, the IPC and potentially McLaren himself, in a > very fragile position in light of the pending court cases. > > The post Vladimir Putin slams Paralympic ban; Congratulates Russian > athletes > (http://theduran.com/putin-slams-paralympic-ban-congratulates-russian-athlet…) > appeared first on The Duran (http://theduran.com) .

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[WAR] Trump negotiates contract with Russia for "10,000 beautiful MiG-35s" to replace F-35 boondoggle
by Zenaan Harkness 14 Jul '17

14 Jul '17

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/kgb-sends-trump-his-first-directive-a… Donald "Donat Ivanovich Trollstoyevski" Trumpenfuhrer begins the inevitable naval vtol gazing. KGB is proudski.

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