February 2017 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

The "60 Year War"
by Razer 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

"For 60 years Robots have been systematically destroying us in clandestine economy based war started when Eniac was turned on" https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/833745605470023680

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Fwd: RE: SHA1 collision found
by Mirimir 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

FYI -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: RE: SHA1 collision found Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:00:05 -0500 From: Robert J. Hansen <rjh(a)sixdemonbag.org> To: gnupg-users(a)gnupg.org (I originally sent this off-list by mistake. Peter was kind enough to respond off-list and to suggest we take it back on-list. This email is a distillation of three different emails: my original, Peter's response, and a response to Peter.) ===== > I already answered that here[1]. The use of SHA-1 in fingerprints is > not susceptible to a collision attack, so it's still safe. SHA-1 in > fingerprints is only susceptible to a second-preimage attack which is > much harder than a collision attack and unheard of for SHA-1. To which I said, "Create two keys with the same fingerprint. Sign a contract with one, then renege on the deal. When you get called into court, say "I never signed that, Your Honor!" and present the second key. This collision pretty much shatters the nonrepudiability of SHA-1 signatures." To which Peter quite reasonably answered that the other person has a copy of the public key which was used to sign the document originally. Why should the fraudster's denial be believed? The answer is that to enforce a contract (at least here in the United States) you must be able to prove, based on a preponderance of the evidence, that the other person entered into a contract with you. So imagine this conversation: PLAINTIFF: "Your Honor, the defendant reneged on a $10,000 contract. Make him pay up." DEFENDANT: "I never signed anything, Your Honor." PLAINTIFF: "I have his key, it's right here." DEFENDANT: "That's not my key. This is my key." PLAINTIFF: "Of course that's what he claims! They have the same SHA-1 fingerprint! He did that in order to deny his signature!" JUDGE: "So these keys are uniquely identified by the fingerprint?" (both parties agree) JUDGE: "And you have two keys that are identified by the same fingerprint?" (both parties agree) JUDGE: "And there's no way to tell which key is real?" (both parties agree) JUDGE: "Then we're stuck. There's no reason to prefer one key over another. Plaintiff, you have failed your burden of proof in establishing the defendant signed the contract." Now, you could establish proof some other way: let's say you made a videotape of the defendant signing the document. If you could introduce other supporting evidence (which might include other signatures on keys) you might be able to convince the judge the signature is enforceable. But there's nothing intrinsic to the signature itself which could convince the judge. So Peter is completely right to say "but there's no reason to believe one person over the other." Completely, absolutely right. But the person asking the court to enforce a contract must present a reason to believe them over the defendant. I hope this clarifies my answer! (Peter also rightly remarked that he thought nonrepudiability in OpenPGP was kind of iffy anyway. He and I are in complete agreement on this. OpenPGP has always had very iffy nonrepudiability. With this SHA-1 attack, I feel the threshold has been crossed and we need to consider it repudiable.) _______________________________________________ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users(a)gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users

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[RUS] Saker - "General Reshetnikov: Return to the Empire (superbly controversial interview)"
by Zenaan Harkness 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

The original Tzar was voted in, creating a hereditary "benevolent dictatorship" (perhaps not always so benevolent, but bringing great stability to the Russian empire, it seems. General Reshetnikov: Return to the Empire (superbly controversial interview) February 13, 2017 http://thesaker.is/general-reshetnikov-return-to-the-empire-superbly-contro…

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Garmin Engineer Shot And Killed By Man Yelling 'Get Out Of My Country!'
by Razer 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

If he had been brown, and yelling "Allu Akbar" it would be all over the news and Donald Trump would be locking down the borders. Maybe we need them locked down. To keep our nutjob racist gunnuts in. A white guy was wounded attempting to assist the two victims from INDIA. There's a fundraiser online to help his medical expenses: > > Garmin engineer Srinivas Kuchibhotla was shot and killed at a local > bar in Olathe, Kansas, the U.S. headquarters of Garmin. Co-worker Alok > Madasani was also injured along with bystander Ian Grillot, who > attempted to help the men. "The suspect in the shooting, Adam > Purinton, was drinking at the bar in Olathe, Kansas, at about 7:15 > p.m. that night," reports The Verge. "A witness said he yelled 'get > out of my country' to two of the victims, reportedly saying the men, > believed to originally be from India, were 'Middle Eastern.'" In 2015, > Garmin employed 2,700 workers in Olathe and has plans to double this > number, which the article notes has led to "increasing diversity" in > the community. > https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/02/25/2028233/garmin-engineer-shot-and-k… http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/23/14717506/garmin-engineer-shooting-kansas

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Google are f'ing hypocrites
by Zenaan Harkness 25 Feb '17

25 Feb '17

First they de-associate PewDiePie, then de-monetize Alex Jones, then shadow ban Natural News from all search results after its founder refuses to discredit Alex Jones, and finally they re-monetize PewDiePie! Google - effing hypocritical money grubbing deceptive sluts, ignoring their purported "ethics" except to maximise profit and grease the MSM wheels! It's time to DEMAND that google kick-ban PewDiePie now! Messed up, Rr. > Butthurt SJW PewDiePie Attempts to Stop Heroic WSJ Jew Burners > http://www.dailystormer.com/butthurt-sjw-pewdiepie-attempts-to-stop-heroic-… > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTCDfE_sKnM >

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Blacks violently protest against Nigerian immigration, Get Attacked by Cops [WAR]
by Zenaan Harkness 25 Feb '17

25 Feb '17

This factual counter-narrative is really rather funny: What happens when blacks in South Africa protest immigration by other blacks and then black cops arrest them? Well, one thing that doesn't happen is that the Western media does not give it a bunch of coverage and call the protesters evil racists for protesting immigration, as they would do to whites in America. They also interestingly do not call them victims of police brutality when they get shot with rubber bullets, tear-gassed and arrested for protesting, as they would do to blacks in America. This really just does not fit into the narrative at all, does it? > Police fired stun grenades, rubber bullets and water cannon Friday as > the latest wave of anti-immigrant protests broke out in South Africa's > capital, while President Jacob Zuma condemned the violence but said > his country's migrant burden is bigger than Europe's. > > A petition the protesters handed to the foreign ministry, seen by The > Associated Press, suggested that the government teach foreigners to > speak properly. "They are arrogant and they don't know how to talk to > people especially Nigerians," it said. > > Resentment against foreigners has sometimes turned deadly in South > Africa amid accusations that they take jobs from locals in a country > where unemployment is above 25 percent. Others are blamed for > drug-dealing and other crimes https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-africa-urges-restraint-amid-anti-foreigner… ... [snip a lot more quotes and narrative] It's actually identical to what white countries have going on. It would be very uncomfortable for the Jewish media to address this situation, so they just ignore it. Of course, there are reports here and there, but it isn't made into a giant top news story. South Africa is a rich country because it was built by whites. The blacks who live there don't want to give that wealth away to a bunch of drug-dealing foreigners who steal their jobs. It's extremely relevant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26LC7T9QPRA (Orig article: http://www.dailystormer.com/black-south-africans-protest-immigration-get-at… )

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Did you ever change your political/social views after trolling in a cpunks thread?
by Georgi Guninski 25 Feb '17

25 Feb '17

Did you ever change your political/social views after trolling in a cpunks thread? Strengthening your beliefs doesn't count since it happens all the time. lol

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"And Then They Came For Me"
by Zenaan Harkness 25 Feb '17

25 Feb '17

Google burns the modern day books. "But they're just a private company." (41% of all online advertising revenue goes through Google) "The sites they scrub from search results are conspiracy theories or fake news or have been reported by a reputable censor." Then they came for me. Subject: "And Then They Came For Me" The extreme censorship onslaught against Natural News continues by Google, which blacklisted the entire website without warning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDIeP8zk00&feature=share *Published on Feb 23, 2017* It's hard to overstate the pure evil and tyranny Google has engaged in by wiping NaturalNews.com off the internet. Not only has the attack on the free press and REAL NEWS been taken to the next level with this move, but this assault on FREE SPEECH will undoubtedly COST LIVES. The valuable catalog of information about health and wellness which Natural News provided, some 140,000 pages of articles and research have been scrubbed. As Mike Adams has said, this equates to a modern day book burning.

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I'm in acapulco, will speak at Anarcapulo convention
by jim bell 24 Feb '17

24 Feb '17

Will speak Monday morning. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Kim case:. Not vx only.
by jim bell 24 Feb '17

24 Feb '17

I don't think the assassins used only VX in the Kim case. VX is not fast enough, alone, to explain events as the were reported. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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