February 2017 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant
by Razer 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

Milo Yiannopoulos planned to publicly name allegedly undocumented students at UC Berkeley, endangering them. Debate over. Shutting him down was legal and necessary and UC should have done it but they were probably unaware of his intent. So locals and students did it. Here's a good example of what happens if teaching staff does something stupid like that. > SAN JOSE — An Oak Grove High School PE teacher who allegedly told a > student that he might be deported once Donald Trump is president has > been placed on leave and is under investigation. > > The teacher, who hasn’t been publicly identified, spoke to a student > who was refusing to stand as the national anthem played last week on > the campus, Superintendent Chris Funk said. > > The teacher asked the student to stand. When the student refused, NBC > Bay Area reported, the teacher said, “Good luck with being deported > now that Donald Trump is president. … You guys had it better here than > you will over there.” > > Other students witnessed the incident. One told NBC Bay Area, “We just > stayed seated, quietly, respecting everybody, not saying any rude > comments whatsoever.” The student added, “I was actually shocked and > angry because I never thought I’d hear this coming from a teacher.” > > A student reported the incident to school officials, Funk said, and > the East Side Union High School District intervened by placing the > teacher on paid leave. > > Funk said that the teacher has been in the district for some time. > Pending the outcome of the district’s investigation, the teacher could > receive a letter of reprimand or be suspended, he said. > > In the aftermath of the election, the district has posted a letter on > its homepage, saying that students deserve a secure environment to > process the election results, and asking teachers to remain neutral, > share information, listen to both sides of any issue and create a safe > space in class and school for discussion. > > “No question that some of our students who are undocumented are > concerned about deportation and what’s going to happen to their > families,” Funk said. http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/15/san-jose-teacher-allegedly-threatens-… Rr On 02/02/2017 05:24 PM, Razer wrote: > > > > On 02/02/2017 04:46 PM, jim bell wrote: >> No, they can't. And don't call me Shirley!!! >> >> Jim Bell >> > > In the state of California anything that might be construed as > inculcating hate in students can be banned. Even the color or brand of > clothes allowed on school property (Red/Blue/Ben Davis et al) that > might cause hate between various sociocultural factions. (Blue-Norteno > family roots/Red-Sureno family roots) > > Schools have pretty much free say over what is permissible within > their facilities and with their equipment and ALWAYS have. In the 60s > I can't even recount how many students were disciplined for publishing > non-hateful anti-war content in school newspapers, by rote... That > right has been consistently upheld by every court these cases appear in. > > ANY potential disruptor to school business or safety (according to the > local board of edu) is simply and effectively banned. And considering > most neonazi organizations are considered hate groups, promoting it is > a no-no on school property. Promoting racism is certainly a no-no, and > whether the students Moron was going to "Document" are "Undocumented" > according to his wrong opinion, they ARE attending UCB LEGALLY and > have a right to be protected from his vilification on school grounds. > > Rr > > > >> >> From: Razer <g2s(a)riseup.net> >> To: cypherpunks(a)lists.cpunks.org >> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 4:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Statement from a Berkely Antifa FashBash participant >> >> >> That's right. Schools have BROAD authority, and hate speech... ESPECIALLY the sort that might lead to BULLYING, surely can be limited. >> >> On 02/02/2017 04:32 PM, jim bell wrote: >>> I will add: http://www.firstamendmentschools.org/freedoms/faq.aspx?id=12993 >>> >>> May schools limit the time, place, and manner of student expression? >>> Yes, as long as the time, place, and manner regulations are reasonable and nondiscriminatory. >>> The U.S. Supreme Court has said that "laws regulating the time, place or manner of speech stand on a different footing than laws prohibiting speech altogether."1First Amendment jurisprudence provides that time, place, and manner restrictions on speech are constitutional if (1) they are content neutral (i.e., they do not treat speech differently based on content); (2) they are narrowly tailored to serve a governmental interest; and (3) they leave open ample alternative means of expression. >>> Courts will generally grant even more deference to time, place, and manner restrictions in public schools because students do not possess the same level of rights as adults in a public forum. However, the time, place, and manner regulations must still be reasonable. This means that school officials could limit student distribution of material to certain locations and at certain times, but those regulations would need to be both reasonable and nondiscriminatory. >>> Notes >>> 1 Linmark Associates, Inc. v. Township of Willingboro, 431 U.S. 85 (1977). >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >

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Astonishing Lie by Hillary regarding Trump "Choke"
by Big 'Uns 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

> On Sat Jan 14 2017 19:09:16 -1900 > "Cecilia Tanaka" <cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com> wrote: > > Racist feelings are not love. They are pure hate and intolerance. Racism is the classification of people by race. You, Cecilia, are a racist. Just like good ol' James.

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Torproject disease infects WhatsApp - User experience trumps(sic) security
by Spencer 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

Hi, > > Razer: > Torproject disease infects WhatsApp - > User experience trumps(sic) security > Security is a usability issue. > "failure to obtain permission" "Better to ask forgiveness ..." An increasing usability "feature" trend. Wordlife, Spencer

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The (Western) Empire: free speech, holocaust denial, jail in 14 countries
by Zenaan Harkness 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

What a swell empire it is - not. For the free speech crime of holocaust denial today, in the EU, jail is the punishment in 14 EU countries. To learn who controls you, look only at those you may not criticize. Free speech? Freedom to publicly communicate/ publish conentious conspiracies such as "the holocaust never happened"? David Dees - page 98 is missing: http://ddees.com/index.php/2016/11/17/page-98/

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How to act in self defense - concealed carry saves the day
by Ray Cis 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

> On Tue, Jan 31 01:45:24 -0100 > "Ben Tasker" <ben at bentasker.co.ck> > > An alternative view of that situation, of course, Comes from a cucked citezen of the UK who cannot lawfully own a handgun. > http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/29/armed- > citizen-dropped-wallet-distracted-suspect/ "He turned to look and get the money, thats when I lit him up. /Jim Bell approves/

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Alt-right hipster Gavin McInnes and his Nazi fanboys the "Proud Boys" Shut Down @ NYU
by Spencer 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

> John Young: > A mic is a jerk-off tool. Microphones are a broadcast tool. Next you're going to tell us that designing for yourself is masturbation and that we should be designing for others. Wordlife, Spencer

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Twitter discloses national security letters (2015 and 2016)
by Razer 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

> Today, we’re able to speak openly about two national security requests > for the first time, specifically two national security letters (NSLs). > These NSLs were accompanied by gag orders when they were served (one > in 2015, one in 2016), preventing us from notifying the impacted > account holders or publicly disclosing their existence. The FBI > recently informed us that the gag orders have been lifted and that we > may notify the account holders. > > We have provided each of the account holders with copies of the > relevant NSLs (certain information redacted to protect privacy) as > well as the account data we were compelled to produce. While the > actual NSLs request a large amount of data, Twitter provides a very > limited set of data in response to NSLs consistent with federal law > and interpretive guidance from the U.S. Department of Justice. > > We’re encouraged by the lifting of these two gag orders and those > recently disclosed by Cloudflare, Google, the Internet Archive, and > Yahoo!. However, Twitter remains unsatisfied with restrictions on our > right to speak more freely about national security requests we may > receive. We continue to push for the legal ability to speak more > openly on this topic in our lawsuit against the U.S. government, > Twitter v. Lynch. More with links: https://blog.twitter.com/2017/transparency-update-twitter-discloses-nationa…

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Fwd: [liberationtech] Idea: Report Hateful / Racist Websites to Their Registrars and Hosting Providers
by Cecilia Tanaka 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

All the times I read one of Donald's stupid racist messages, I want to tattoo "Black Lives Matter" in one of my arms. Or even better, in his forehead! >:( ------- "Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your curiosity. It's your place in the world; it's your life. Go on and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live." - Mae Jemison ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Yosem Companys Date: Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:24 PM Subject: [liberationtech] Idea: Report Hateful / Racist Websites to Their Registrars and Hosting Providers To: Liberation Technologies Cc: Evan Savage From: Evan Savage <savage.evan(a)gmail.com> Hello all! I’ve put together a quick guide on reporting hateful and racist websites to their registrars and hosting providers, which you can view here: https://pad.riseup.net/p/EjJlVMGKxF0x (I’m sure all of you already have the requisite technical expertise, but if this spreads further it will hopefully be of use to those who don’t.) The idea is simple: make it harder for these websites to operate, one TOS violation email at a time. I’m hoping to send a few TOS violation emails over this next week, and figured the more the merrier! Feel free to pass this link on to others who might be interested. -- Evan Savage bit-manipulator extraordinaire :: savage internet, LLC

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Why immigrants (legal and illegal) and poor "natives" want Trump's immigration ban
by Zenaan Harkness 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

" Thirdly, Borjas points out that illegals dramatically reduce the wages of legal workers with similarly low skill levels. These are legal Latinos, blacks, and poor whites. Why should companies pay legal workers when they can get away with paying illegals less? " http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/01/27/milo-university-new-mexico-full-te…

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Trump will NEVER turn America into a White nation!
by Zenaan Harkness 04 Feb '17

04 Feb '17

This is getting ridiculous, Trump must be stopped before he turns America into a White nation - he is shockingly close now to being Literally Hitler!!! What can we do?

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