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[WAR] Yugoslavia - Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (by the ICT)
by Zenaan Harkness 08 Oct '18

08 Oct '18

USA destruction of countries - in recent times in our consciousness and the public discourse are the following: - Iraq'a WMDs (non existent) - Libya's "liberation" from its civil war - Syria's chemical weapons (supplied by the CIA it turns out) But the war to destroy Yugoslavia has only just ended with the International Criminal Tribunal's case against Slobodan Milošević finally ending. USA, you have an extremely large debt to the world. ** Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…) ------------------------------------------------------------ by Quintus Curtius on Wed, Aug 31, 2016 Those of us who had some involvement in Bosnian peacekeeping efforts many years ago might be astonished to learn that, after all the propaganda, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) finally exonerated Slobodan Milošević of wrongdoing in the Bosnian War of the early 1990s. This result is nothing less than shocking. The full text of the judgment can be found here. Read more » (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…)

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Re: [WAR] US government set on complete destruction of Ukraine
by Sean Lynch 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 4:41 PM, <xorcist(a)sigaint.org> wrote: > > No, this is Putin's baby. He's set it up so that if he can't have > Ukraine, > > nobody will. > > No, it is quite likely that the coup in Ukraine was instigated and > organized by U.S. interests. > > There are a lot of interests that would have good reason to do so. > > Economic: Soros, Geithner, and pals have been looking to depress the > Russian currency for years. At least back to 2008, that I am aware of. One > can speculate why, the simplest reason is to make money themselves. > > NATO: Yanukovych's government was Russian-leaning, while there were > "Orange Revolution" leaning politicians, activists, and so on in Western > Ukraine. Having Ukraine be Russian-leaning, and theoretically independent > puts NATO in a difficult position. Poland and Romania are NATO members, > with Ukraine right between them. For supply-line and airspace reasons, it > is strongly desirable to NATO interests to bring Ukraine under the > umbrella. This also provides another, angle of attack on Moscow. > > Understand the situation: NATO is encircling Moscow. Estonia and Lativa to > it's NW, Lithuania due-West, with Belarus as a buffer. Both countries are > positioned to place rockets within 800km of Moscow. If Ukraine were to go > NATO, it also would be able to position rockets or troops within 800km of > Moscow from the SW, with no buffer. Assuming Russia is unconcerned about > Lithuania, trusting Belarus to be able to intercept any aerial attacks, > that still leaves the possibility for simultaneous attacks from two > directions. > > It is entirely unacceptable, from a purely strategic of view. These > nations going to NATO represents an existential threat to Russia. > > Putin's response, of "taking" Crimea, was quite measured, in my opinion. > The Black Sea is of vital national interest. Were NATO able to get a > carrier group into the to Black Sea, along with the other listed > positions, it would be impossible to stop the capital from getting > captured in an invasion. > > Finally, your suggestion that Putin is somehow not letting the "poor > Ukrainians" from exercising their rights is blinded. The fact is, there > are BOTH strong pro-Western, and pro-Russian sides to Ukraine. This is not > a recent development. The tensions have been there for several > generations. > > Whether you like it or not, it is Putin's job to protect his country and > to prevent the very ABILITY for foreign nations to have that potential, > regardless of whether or not you believe NATO has the will to do so. > Regardless of the will, it should not be POSSIBLE from Russia's > perspective. > > That said, it is also arguably NATO's job to expand, and to position > itself so that Russia joining NATO, becomes the only strategy left to the > Russians. > > This, of course, is called Empire I staked out a stronger position than I actually hold, a hopefully forgivable mistake in response to Zenaan's black-and-white "Russia good, US evil" propagandizing. Thanks for the thoughtful response.

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Government is Stupid About Money (and Taxation is Theft)
by grarpamp 24 Sep '18

24 Sep '18

https://twitter.com/lopp/status/917463355593502720 https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/75bjr1/some_day_well_look_back_at… If you're gonna thieve and force it, at least be smart with it. https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_as_theft https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=taxation+is+theft

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Signal on the Desktop, Plays FBI Subpoena
by grarpamp 26 Jul '18

26 Jul '18

https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/10/04/2144202/encryption-app-signal-wins… http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/signal-subpoena-privacy-gag-order/ https://apnews.com/2bed090d3ec042cab375278b636ff5e5/US-subpoena-tests-priva… http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/05/technology/subpoenas-and-gag-orders-show-… https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/open_whisper_docume… Signal, widely considered the gold standard of encrypted messaging apps, was put to the test earlier this year when a FBI subpoena and gag order that demanded a wide range of information on two users resulted in a federal grand jury investigation in Virginia. The makers of Signal, Open Whisper Systems, profoundly disappointed law enforcement. The app collects as little data as possible and therefore was unable to hand anything useful over to agents. "That's not because Signal chose not to provide logs of information," ACLU lawyer Brett Kaufman told the Associated Press. "It's just that it couldn't." "The Signal service was designed to minimize the data we retain," Moxie Marlinspike, the founder of Open Whisper Systems, told the New York Times. The subpoena came with a yearlong gag order that was successfully challenged by the American Civil Liberties Union. Signal's creators challenged the gag order as unconstitutional, "because it is not narrowly tailored to a compelling government interest." The challenge was successful. In addition to being popularly considered the best consumer encrypted messaging app available, Signal's technology is used by Facebook for Secret Conversations, WhatsApp for encrypted messages, and Google's Allo. Confronted with the subpoena, Marlinspike went to the ACLU for legal counsel. The ACLU responded with a letter saying that even though Signal did not have data the FBI sought, it still strenuously objected (PDF) to the fact the FBI wanted so much information.

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"Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children
by Razer 07 Jul '18

07 Jul '18

A friend of mine about her four year old: "My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering" Rr

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Re: USA: National Security Strategy, Juan's Wet Dream -- OFF-TOPIC (James Donald is a creep)
by Cecilia Tanaka 10 May '18

10 May '18

On Dec 28, 2017 03:28, "James A. Donald" <jamesd(a)echeque.com> wrote: On 12/28/2017 12:16 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > If God really exists, They are pure, sincere love and absolute compassion, > never cruelty, any kind of prejudice, racism, intolerance, hate... > > We are all Their sons and daughters, and we all received the gift of life > the same way. We all are brothers and sisters, and we should make our best > for our family. > Says she while enthusiastically calling for the murder of Christians, whites, and males. My dear garbage fire brother, Please, do *not* take my words of its context and stop telling daily lies. Jeez, is it not a sin in your religion? It's really disgusting! :((( I would *never* ask for any murder. Why the heck do you think I am a veggie since my earlier years? Because I was a hipster, being veggie before it becomes hype, very cool? Hahahaha!!! ;D I do *not* support any death. And, sorry, if you were not informed about it, the life of cows, pigs, chickens, cats, dogs, koalas, and several other animals, is *not* more important than *any human life*, including yours. But I confess that, technically, I don't include you among the rational beings. Already met doggies much smarter than you. And they were cuter and less boring too! :D I do not know if there is a Hell or not, my detestable garbage fire brother, but in positive case, we will meet there someday and, remember, you will arrive first. You are much older and hated than me, so the probabilities are better on my side, hahaha!! <charming wink> ;) I hope your atoms can be used in a better way, like beautiful flowers and trees. James, you are a bad seed, a rotten apple in the society, spreading hate and intolerance. You are the broken potato chip in the package, the one that always makes a mess and is wasted, aff... :((( Ah, my dear, remember that I am being banned and excluded in some feminist radical groups for defending equality of treatment of women and men, for really believing that intelligence and character are much more important than genders, races, religions, sexual options, whatever... I will always try to respect all the people, but illogical, heartless racist, sexist, and homophobic garbage fire people like you do *not* deserve my respect and my time. I am deeply sorry for disappointing you, but instead of "enthusiastically calling for the murder of Christians, whites, and males", I do prefer to mourn the recent deaths of my friends and think about the future, about our lost plans and dreams. All the three were "Christian white males", but it doesn't matter. What is really important, what is making me cry for their deaths, is the fact that all the three were lovely, very kind, amazing human beings, always trying to share their knowledge and helping other people. I will miss them until the last of my days. Who will cry for your death, James? Who will miss you? Nobody. Bye bye, baby! See you in Hell or maybe in another reincarnation. It's also a possibility to be strongly considered, because Zenaan and you are the living proofs of the existence of other lives. Nobody can become so odious, hateful, and stupid in one single human life. It takes muuuch time... :P Ceci <3

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[MONEY] - it's on folks, China gonna trade Yuan/Oil futures, "fully convertible" to physical gold
by Zenaan Harkness 02 Apr '18

02 Apr '18

No wonder the 'Merrycans are hopping nutcases bent on destroying a century of international law and anything remotely resembling diplomacy :) Seems Trump has delayed the onset of war, and if China gets going in the nick of time, the USA will be unequivocally seen for the absolute firetrucking bullies they are if they do start WW3! Good luck world, http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/game-changer-china-buy-oil-gold-backe… http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/smoke-pours-russian-consulate-secrets… Panic sets in for the Israelis: The Reason For Netanyahu's Panicked Flight to Russia http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/reason-netanyahus-panicked-flight-rus… "Israel has understood that it backed the wrong side in Syria – and it has lost."

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[MINISTRY] - was [ PFKR ] [Ally with this Nazi enabler at your own peril] Cloudflare's CEO has a plan to never censor hate speech again
by Zenaan Harkness 28 Mar '18

28 Mar '18

Cloudflare seems to start to take steps towards actual freedom of speech, and Lauren “Tha Kang” Weinstein promptly declares censorship martial law. Way to go Lauren! That's just so, cypherpunk of you Lauren - a few suggestions for this new censorship regime proposed by Lauren: - Lauren's Law - Lauren can censor 'cause Lauren Kang's the greatest - Lauren "Just call me flipper", promoting freedom when it suits “him”, as long as the huwaite boys don't exercise said freedom One wonders if "Tha Kang" has ever heard the phrase "the solution to bad speech is not censorship, but more free speech". The world: “My, what an big (((tribal))) frenzy you've got going there Lauren...” Tha Kang: “But but, muh holocaust! And you just couldn't understand anyway, since --your-- grand pa was not turned into a lamp shade you insensitive clod!” Here is today's sad, completely unredacted email from Lauren Tha Kang Weinstein (since he did say to forward it immediately...): ----- Forwarded message from "PFKR (People For Kangz Raging) Announcement List" <pfkr(a)pfkr.org> ----- To: pfkr-list(a)kangz.org Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2017 09:13:42 -0800 Subject: [ PFKR ] [Ally with this Nazi enabler at your own peril] Cloudflare's CEO has a plan to never censor hate speech again [Ally with this Nazi enabler at your own peril] Cloudflare's CEO has a plan to never censor hate speech again https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/cloudflares-ceo-has-a-plan-to-n… Prince is working to develop relationships with digital rights groups like EFF and New America so that he gets more "air cover" the next time he faces pressure to censor controversial content. Vocal support from groups like EFF and New America, he hopes, will cause major Cloudflare customers to think twice before pressuring the company to get into the censorship business. - - - "Free speech" organizations that ally with this demented Nazi enabler (whom I think personally turned my grand pappy into a human leather lamp shade) will find themselves subjected to the same pushback FROM THA KANG MOFO!, and their officials may perhaps end up sharing the same cells in up state Jew York. The "free speech" landscape has changed permanently with the election of a Nazi (or if you prefer, Nazi sympathizer) to the Oval Office, and the old rules no longer can be permitted to apply, so get out your guns and pitchforks folks, we need a true American revolution on the streets, like NOW already - don't stop till the last Nazi drops! And then FINALLY the chosen bastards will be free to be ourselves in this great country. And if you're not quite sure who the --true-- Nazi's are, just instagram me a pic and I'll get back to you inside of a minute bro. PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL WIDELY, IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!! --Lauren-- Lauren Kangztein (lauren(a)kangz.com) https://www.kangz.com/THA_KANG_MOFO Lauren's Blog: https://kangz.mofos.com Google Issues Mailing List: https://kangz.com/google-mofos Founder: Network Neutrality Squad: https://www.nnsquad.org Kangz PRIVACY Forum: https://www.KANGZ.com/kangz-info Co-Founder: People For Kangz Responsibility: https://www.pfkr.org/pfkr-info Member: ACM Committee on Kangz and Public Policy Google+: https://google.com/+LaurenKangztein Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurenKangztein For a good time, call: +1 (800) THA-KANGZ ---- Impeach Trumpski now, ’cause life wad bedder wid Kangz! ---- ----- End forwarded message -----

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CNN, for that offer you just can't refuse :D
by Zenaan Harkness 23 Mar '18

23 Mar '18

CNN, having been body slammed by no less than the POTUS his self: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wwbII15JQ8 (Tucker Carlson's version straight outta Kekistan) , has decided (that's CNN has decided) that "main stream media news outlets making 'offers you can't refuse' to basement dwelling deplorable meme creators struggling for a life", is somehow a wise thing to do: http://theduran.com/cnn-turns-evil-literally-evil/ CONFIRMED: CNN threatens to put US citizen’s life in danger for revenge This rock bottom for the very Fake News Network and the Mainstream Intimidators. And watching some of Trump's past WWE vids reminds us that Idiocracy is not so far from the truth. At least the ratings are high: http://theduran.com/cnn-sees-its-tv-viewers-in-june-collapse-after-having-i… and so soon the crowds will roar with a scream of "WINNER" - thankfully with memes, at least SOME of the credit will go to basement dwelling deplorable meme creators struggling for a life. Nice to see a little citizen's coordination on the MSM body slams: http://www.projectveritasaction.com/category/news/ Moral of this story - when you meme, go hard, go proud and go public, or make damn sure your opsec is reasonable. Memes .. not child's play ... too dangerous for most, so watch your back and patience kekette, patience!

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PragerU v. Google - YouTube should be held to free speech laws, not discretion
by Zenaan Harkness 23 Mar '18

23 Mar '18

Most folks here are passionate about free speech. The running debate on whether massive "social media" corporations ought be allowed to exercise "private club" discretion over their networks is hitting a US court, thanks to "PragerU", a conservative digital media organization. Apparently non-ironically, and thus all the more ironic, some "punks" declare that corporate "discretionary censorship" policies are just “A-OK, peachy wid me!”, reaching levels of self-parody rarely seen in the online world except on this very online, and very "punks" email list. Setting aside the ridiculous assertion which some folks try to uphold - that censorship is different from moderation, and moderation is ok - the fact that, to pick a totally random example, YouTube, is 20 times larger in market share as compared to its closest rival: http://www.businessinsider.com/globally-youtubes-market-share-is-20-times-i… and can therefore quite reasonably be considered a monopoly, is STILL not enough for some folks in their [MINISTRY] speak, to back down from their "companies can do no wrong" propaganda. Thankfully one onliner, Dennis Prager, is suing YouTube and its parent Google over alleged censorship of their videos: PragerU Sues YouTube and Google over Alleged Censorship of Conservatives http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/10/24/prageru-sues-youtube-and-google-ov… According to the Wall Street Journal, the lawsuit, which was filed on Monday, “says YouTube’s more than 30 million visitors a day make the site so elemental to free speech in the digital age that it should be treated as a public forum.” “The suit argues the site must use the ‘laws governing free speech,’ not its own discretion, to make decisions about what to censor,” they reported, adding that PragerU “alleges that by limiting access to some of its videos without clear criteria YouTube is infringing on PragerU’s First Amendment rights.” … Here's hoping that Prager's lawyer/ legal team is not (((completely compromised))), and to this end I shall repeat what to my amateur not-a-lawyer mind is self evident, basic logic: An Open Letter to Dennis Prager: Dear Dennis, in the interests of you NOT being firetrucked over by your legal team (not that your particular legal team would ever do so mind you - this is simply insurance of a sort), consider the following: - insist that every legal document to be put before a court, is provided first to you for review, and only after your consent, is that document filed or otherwise put, to a court in your court case - insist that every legal document filed, or otherwise provided to your legal team, in relation to your matter, is provided to you, for your personal review - on any and every appeal process, ALWAYS put the question(s) of law proposed by your legal team, to the close analysis of your own mind, and where, in your mind appropriate (which for cases such as this - matters of basic human rights such as free speech), REALLY OUGHT be put to the public - the question of law on appeal is one of the most basic ways that mistakes or “mistakes” happen, especially in high-profile cases which might affect the profits of a large corporation As a good friend has said many times “the most complicated thing in law is a double negative”. Good luck,

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