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Re: Trump Postmortem: Why He Won
by Zenaan Harkness 12 Nov '16

12 Nov '16

----- Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> ----- Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 11:48:58 +1100 From: Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> Subject: Re: Trump Postmortem: Why He Won Michael Moore, eat your hear out! In your -face- hypocrite!!! Enjoy :) z Michael Moore's Message to Butthurt Dems Is BS: Trump Is Projected to Win the Popular Vote. Sorry? http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/michael-moores-message-butthurt-dems-… ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: US: Post Election Protests
by John Newman 12 Nov '16

12 Nov '16

> On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Razer <rayzer(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > > > On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical nonsense: > >> Violence ended slavery in the South. >> Violence created the so called "land of the free" =) >> >> Sometimes it's the solution. >> >> John > > > > Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the > solution itself Yes , truly spoken. The thing about violence is - science has advanced so many "wonderful ways" for us to kill ourselves, it becomes increasingly obvious humanity needs to either disavow war altogether (how to do that I have no idea) or face the inevitable conclusion that we are going to fucking destroy ourselves. Fermi paradox solved =) John

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Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!
by datajanit0r＠sigaint.org 11 Nov '16

11 Nov '16

> Jim Bell: > This is called "Duverger's Law". Fuck Duverger's arse research. He is just as dishonest as <skquinn at rushpost.com>. With their logic, the 46% that didn't vote voted for Clinton because she lost. Retarded. -- @abditum

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Wikileaks, 1984?
by Cannon 10 Nov '16

10 Nov '16

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 https://file.wikileaks.org/file/ The wikileaks file archive. Is it coincidence or a message, that all timestamps are "1984" ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYIuCqAAoJEAYDai9lH2mw8zkQAL5JyR7px6FSyau7ZFl8vakM Sq60IkNDBwE47V6QW1qyIK8wNHXhXyMZBjkSHiGKr8PgqpnR4sh7WXsndS2UL+q5 oGTCLEfHfTTjpZ6u+nMBUYvFgpFQ+5t9cLEjlrGjFRjuYhigF2TmlXNPxyxoyWqv j9cmYJ7LrP2qjg3hHn9Aq/xWLpiBd35kDjv8rHmVxkNw2OxNdI98+joJ/lsHZRXv FD7wsZblLKL7F3/AXeVOSVjZmjTxDuDmG3KOkNBxKOpkCHP1s5zZJ6T2PuubuqVE o53gtbA/Emxg6bIFR8qq7JMxpLRN1sUn/2pOgyjPc4dvQJSXIydT9b5AMNIGvvbF /6L6Psh4IkzKdY1FkKAPpn+DMRAv/xeMBNrv5Dl2K1TcL8PJSwyreDniRe/YxuiG Ta9JObJN0IyCNresQhBv+ZdsDLi4svvn9/VozM9MLYbl2l6xGigzAqX+kZUKDkMO DreLXISR3otdAE8jT16LDOi5rUCbYwiqGnzEd0mT3UOUttPqNRJmsk3utrJb7u2K 59o4Em0MsJYsp7vATAmW1uSfCUtWx0CE3S68tuKPX2IYk8ssDTr105VRsmFI5WTB iJ/VaQJfOQaq8Z/TOWgDi/aqw9oJqo1Mc+MtXzv8IlVNQ0vfOSvJWcPoAe7F8Txu rrnGpXekIEv9yFefXjyi =SNJc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Cannon PGP Fingerprint: 2BB5 15CD 66E7 4E28 45DC 6494 A5A2 2879 3F06 E832 Email: cannon(a)cannon-ciota.info Bitmessage Address: BM-2cVaTbC8fJ5UDDaBBs4jPQoFNp1PfNhxqU Ricochet-IM: ricochet:hfddt2csxnsb2mdq NOTICE: ALL EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE NOT SIGNED/ENCRYPTED WITH PGP SHOULD BE CONSIDERED POTENTIALLY FORGED, AND NOT PRIVATE. If this matters to you, use PGP or bitmessage.

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Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!
by Griffin Boyce 10 Nov '16

10 Nov '16

> Shawn K. Quinn: > above the law They all above the law, you cuck. > Inciting riots Reddit. > I didn't really want to vote for Hillary, but it was the best choice Why be such intellectual coward? You could've writtens in anybody you wanted. Don't come crying to here with your lies, you dishonest piece of shit. > turning Texas blue, Bangin' Crip, seems. > we I think you mean 'xe'. > "Grab 'Em By The Pussy" You must no be rich or famous. > What other conclusion were we supposed to draw? If you are in Texas, draw Muhammad. -- @abditum

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Re: Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!
by Cecilia Tanaka 10 Nov '16

10 Nov '16

Well, you are not my favorite person in the whole world, but let people think you acted like a jerk would be pretty unfair, not correct at all. Nobody deserves being considered bad when is not guilty. Nah, "garbage fire" is too much. Just usual garbage and, after some time, garbage can be used as fertilizer and become useful again. It's my hope. :) Take care, Boyce. - c. On Nov 9, 2016 5:25 PM, "Griffin Boyce" <Griffin(a)cryptolab.net> wrote: > Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the heads up, but I don't really care. > Cypherpunks has been a garbage fire for years and won't change any time > soon. > > -G > > > Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Sorry, Boyce, but probably there are people on CP list who do _not_ > >know > >you and your writting patterns. My intention was just avoiding > >misunderstandings. > > > >- c. > >On Nov 9, 2016 5:18 PM, "Griffin Boyce" <Griffin(a)cryptolab.net> wrote: > > > >> If someone's stupid enough to believe I'd post that, then that's > >their > >> problem, not mine. > >> > >> -Griffin > >> > >> Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >Boyce, > >> > > >> >I know you don't like me, but someone is using your name, pretending > >to > >> >be > >> >you on CypherPunks list. > >> > > >> >Sorry for being late, but this message was tagged as spam and just > >read > >> >it > >> >now. > >> > > >> >Take care. > >> > > >> >- c. > >> >On Nov 9, 2016 2:32 PM, "Griffin Boyce" <datajanitor(a)sigaint.org> > >> >wrote: > >> > > >> >> > Shawn K. Quinn: > >> >> > above the law > >> >> > >> >> They all above the law, you cuck. > >> >> > >> >> > Inciting riots > >> >> > >> >> Reddit. > >> >> > >> >> > I didn't really want to vote for Hillary, but it was the best > >> >choice > >> >> > >> >> Why be such intellectual coward? You could've writtens in anybody > >> >you > >> >> wanted. > >> >> > >> >> Don't come crying to here with your lies, you dishonest piece of > >> >shit. > >> >> > >> >> > turning Texas blue, > >> >> > >> >> Bangin' Crip, seems. > >> >> > >> >> > we > >> >> > >> >> I think you mean 'xe'. > >> >> > >> >> > "Grab 'Em By The Pussy" > >> >> > >> >> You must no be rich or famous. > >> >> > >> >> > What other conclusion were we supposed to draw? > >> >> > >> >> If you are in Texas, draw Muhammad. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> @abditum > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ~Griffin > >> > > > > ~Griffin >

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Re: Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is DEAD!!!
by Cecilia Tanaka 10 Nov '16

10 Nov '16

Sorry, Boyce, but probably there are people on CP list who do _not_ know you and your writting patterns. My intention was just avoiding misunderstandings. - c. On Nov 9, 2016 5:18 PM, "Griffin Boyce" <Griffin(a)cryptolab.net> wrote: > If someone's stupid enough to believe I'd post that, then that's their > problem, not mine. > > -Griffin > > Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >Boyce, > > > >I know you don't like me, but someone is using your name, pretending to > >be > >you on CypherPunks list. > > > >Sorry for being late, but this message was tagged as spam and just read > >it > >now. > > > >Take care. > > > >- c. > >On Nov 9, 2016 2:32 PM, "Griffin Boyce" <datajanitor(a)sigaint.org> > >wrote: > > > >> > Shawn K. Quinn: > >> > above the law > >> > >> They all above the law, you cuck. > >> > >> > Inciting riots > >> > >> Reddit. > >> > >> > I didn't really want to vote for Hillary, but it was the best > >choice > >> > >> Why be such intellectual coward? You could've writtens in anybody > >you > >> wanted. > >> > >> Don't come crying to here with your lies, you dishonest piece of > >shit. > >> > >> > turning Texas blue, > >> > >> Bangin' Crip, seems. > >> > >> > we > >> > >> I think you mean 'xe'. > >> > >> > "Grab 'Em By The Pussy" > >> > >> You must no be rich or famous. > >> > >> > What other conclusion were we supposed to draw? > >> > >> If you are in Texas, draw Muhammad. > >> > >> -- > >> @abditum > >> > >> > > > > ~Griffin >

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Re: Universal Basic Income
by juan 10 Nov '16

10 Nov '16

On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 16:26:34 -0800 Jacob Core <jacob.core(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> While I largely agree with this list regarding government, I do > >> agree about UBI. > > > > So you agree with libertarian/anarchist anti-government > > views, but you still want yet another government scam? That doesn't > > seem to make much sense... > Yes, it is contrarian. But what else would you propose to move us to? Individual self-government and an economic system in which people can work *as little* as they want. > As it stands at the moment, you need currency to get basic goods, > such as bread. In the future what will we do to get basic items? The system based on work and money exchanges (which is nothing but...barter) is bad, but the other option(s) are worse I think. > I > think that we should all be taking care of each other, without any > federal government involved; Well, if voluntary socialism works, and you like it, go for it. > I do doubt however that the US will > ever, at least in my lifetime (I'm 25), be able to move away from the > idea of capitalism (in the sense of buying and selling basic things, > such as bread, water, and internet access) If you don't pay for something, somebody else has to pay for it, unless we are talking about truly free things. Food isn't usually on the list. Telecom hardware isn't either... Even if you somehow took money out of the equation, things still have to be produced and that takes work. > Care to explain how simplistic jobs are irrelevant? I mean, right now there are peole working at mcdonalds, but if mcdonalds was gone, they'd be working at a different place. Even in the current rigged non-free market there's some degree of 'automatic reallocation of resources' so to speak. > > > > Of course it you start with government premises you'll > > arrive at government conclusions... > I won't disagree, but the government probably has the best access to > employment information at this point. It would be amazing if everyone > published, or at least made independently available, their employment > figures. Yes, but I wasn't referring only to the data. What I mean is, people losing their mcdoanlds jobs is obviously a problem for the now ex-employees but it's also a problem for the government and the establishment. Unemployed people don't pay taxes and might get funny ideas in their heads. > I'm not arguing that that UBI is the best method, but rather > that, given our current government, it is the best method we have > available to make things more equal. I don't object to a radical 'redistribution' of wealth, taking it away from the corporate mafia and gov't employees. But it's even more important to get rid of the privileges that allow people to get rich and powerful in the first place. > It is also entirely likely that > this bottle of bourbon, since it is election day, may have had a part > to play in the past couple of e-mails. =P > > Apologies about the thunderbird/gmail formatting.... > > [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burger_King > > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_in_the_Box >

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[WAR] Duterte - subtle indicators of latent hostility
by Zenaan Harkness 09 Nov '16

09 Nov '16

A brief summary of the death throes of the empire. The Loosening Grip: A Beginner’s Guide to Death Throes http://fredoneverything.org/the-loosening-grip-a-beginners-guide-to-death-t… " Duterte has told Obama to “go to hell” as being “the son of a whore,” which may be taken to indicate latent hostility. He is vigorously seeking rapprochement with China. While Washington may have him murdered, it seems to be losing control of the Little Vassals of ASEAN. "

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Some predictions for the spam after the murican's elections
by Georgi Guninski 09 Nov '16

09 Nov '16

Some predictions for the spam after the murican's elections Case 1: The mad collapsing bitch wins Zenaan spam trolls: She raped a herd of rhinoceros. pravda.ru warned you before the elections! Case 2: The mad clown wins Zenaan spam trolls: Hugs and kisses, Доналдь. Eternal friendship between NSA and KGB! Вечная дружба!

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