October 2016 - cypherpunks - lists.cpunks.org

Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?
by Georgi Guninski 07 Mar '21

07 Mar '21

Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls? I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it appears to support this. Why so? I don't see enough "value" in the list for such attack, short of just propaganda playground.

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freedom of speech - from Australia to The Netherlands - Geert Wilders criminal trial, opening statement
by Zenaan Harkness 11 Oct '20

11 Oct '20

youtube-dl --all-subs https://www.youtube.com/embed/pJwoygYdTmY (default max quality is ~160MiB - choose alt if too big) Nationalism is a thorn in the side of the hegemonic empire, and the simple question, when you are a watched / listened to human, can land you in criminal court, as Australia's Bernard Gaynor knows only too well. (Besides the comments, this only links to the video above: http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/09/25/geert-wilders-opening-statement-for-his… )

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[WAR] The ministry of truth: NATO liberation of Libya, 2011
by Zenaan Harkness 29 Jun '20

29 Jun '20

If the following were not true, we'd be incredulous that someone would propose such an unbelievable and lame movie plot. Sadly, this is what North America and NATO stand for. I Thought NATO “Liberated” Libya in 2011? http://journal-neo.org/2016/08/04/i-thought-nato-liberated-libya-in-2011/ “Operation Unified Protector is one of the most successful in NATO’s history… We have done this together for the people of Libya, so they can take their future firmly and safely into their own hands. Libyans have now liberated their country. And they have transformed the region. This is their victory” - Former NATO Secretary General, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, speaking in October, 2011. http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_80052.htm “In Libya, the death of Muammar al-Qaddafi showed that our role in protecting the Libyan people, and helping them break free from a tyrant, was the right thing to do” – US President, Barack Obama, speakingin October, 2011. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-obama-foreignpolicy-idUSTRE79L0MH20111023 “I am proud to stand here on the soil of a free Tripoli and on behalf of the American people I congratulate Libya. This is Libya’s moment, this is Libya’s victory, the future belongs to you” – Former US Secretary of State and Democratic Nominee for President, Hillary Clinton, speaking in October, 2011. https://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/10/19/172519.html On August the 1st, US warplanes bombed Islamic State (IS/ISIS/ISIL) targets in the Libyan city of Sirte, almost exactly five years after Western imperialists declared NATO’s 2011 war in Libya a complete success. http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/17/nato-s-humanitarian-intervention-in-libya… These strikes are not the first conducted by the US in Libya this year, in a broader campaign that is officially aimed at defeating an enemy that the US had a major hand in creating in the first place (I’m sure the military-industrial complex isn’t complaining however). Peter Cook, the Pentagon’s Press Secretary, said in a statement released on the 1st of August in relation to the strikes that: http://www.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/881794/… “Today, at the request of the Libyan Government of National Accord (GNA), the United States military conducted precision air strikes [which is Orwellian/Pentagon-speak for dropping bombs (not uncommonly on civilians)] against ISIL targets in Sirte, Libya, to support GNA-affiliated forces seeking to defeat ISIL in its primary stronghold in Libya… The U.S. stands with the international community in supporting the GNA as it strives to restore stability and security to Libya.” Wait a minute though, have I missed something? I thought Libya was “liberated” in 2011 and the country is now a beacon of ‘freedom and democracy’ for the Middle East and North Africa? Are the Libyan people not enjoying being “free from a tyrant;” similar to the liberty the Syrian people will experience if Assad the ‘tyrant’ is overthrown and the country is handed over to al-Qaeda? Since the future belonged to the Libyan people in 2011, is the country not a vibrant and prosperous democracy today? Is Libya not one of the major hubs of the Mediterranean, with trade booming and flocks of tourists travelling from across the world to sample the delights of the country – from the fascinating culture of the indigenous people to the stunning (I must admit) Roman ruins? I thought the standard of living for the average Libyan was much higher than it was before the tyrant was deposed? Is Libya not helping to build the African continent up to try and alleviate the millions of people who live in poverty? I thought the “most successful” campaign in NATO’s history meant that terrorism could not gain a foothold in the country, considering the Western alliance spends the majority of its time (after antagonising Russia that is) talking about fighting terrorism? I thought NATO’s love-bombs only hit the baddies, and never killed or maimed any civilians? Are the Libyan people not enjoying the fruits of another Western foreign policy success story? Are the Libyan people not enjoying the stability that always follows a Western war of aggression? I thought the Libyan “kinetic military action” was yet another triumphant imperial endeavour, just like Afghanistan, Iraq and the numerous other countries that were lucky to be the targets of Western ‘humanitarian’ forces? Steven MacMillan is an independent writer, researcher, geopolitical analyst and editor of The Analyst Report, http://www.theanalystreport.net/ especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”. http://journal-neo.org/

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The heart of a Scotsman - George Galloway, The Chilcot Report: What Next?
by Zenaan Harkness 06 Jan '20

06 Jan '20

The wheels of "democracy" when it works, when someone with heart, patience, tenacity and a strong sense of justice (a mighty lot to ask, so we can be very grateful for this man of principal) such as George Galloway, is an event worth witnessing, given how rare such events are. George Galloway you have been vindicated. Thank you for speaking so clearly. "Mr Blair: This Is For Iraq (Video)" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVNmy5-2va8 (Youtube link also here: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/mr-blair-iraq/ri15485 )

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Re: [From xorcist offlist] Cloudflare & NoDAPL again w/ a ROTF
by Razer 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

Fwiw, for those who aren't aware... The point of trolls like this one, 'xorcist', and cyberpiggie et all is to stalk individuals posts on lists with garbage so people start to think, whenever the one being targeted posts, "Oh fuck that means I'm gonna see all that shit from xxx(a)xxx.xxx again and wish the targeted person would stop posting and just lurk. Stupid... Simple... Social engineering. Rr

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Sim Theory
by grarpamp 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

So many people have proposed we're simulated... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis Now why would such an extremely advanced civilization / collective want to simulate us? Is this an unanswered question? Certainly they have long since - solved biology, live forever, down/up load their brains against trauma - solved life and mobility throughout their universe - lost and forgotten their prehistory - etc They could sim anything they want. So why sim us? Because something happened to them, something very big, something serious and existentially threatening. And now they're *desperately* trying to learn about death, life, humanity, the individual... something they lost but is still encoded in them just enough to let them think of making the sim...

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Quantum Computers
by jim bell 05 Nov '19

05 Nov '19

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-06/quantum-computers-are-co… [partial quote] Quantum mechanics, Carl Sagan once observed, is so strange that "common sense is almost useless in approaching it." Scientists still don't understand exactly why matter behaves as it does at the quantum level. Yet they're getting better at exploiting its peculiar dynamics -- in ways that may soon upend the technology business. One of the most interesting applications is in computing. In theory, quantum computers could take advantage of odd subatomic interactions to solve certain problems far faster than a conventional machine could. Although a full-scale quantum computer is still years off, scientists have lately made a lot of progress on thematerials, designs and methods needed to make one. And that could have some striking benefits. Quantum computers could simulate how atoms and molecules behave, to the greatadvantage of chemists and drug designers. They could solveoptimization problems -- say, how to efficiently route airplane traffic -- far faster than current technology can. They could speed advances in artificial intelligence, improve sensors, and lead to the design of stronger and lighter industrial materials.[end of partial quote] Jim Bell

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[WAR] a turning point? Brzezinski, Mastermind of US Hegemony, Says Abandon Imperial Pipe Dreams
by Zenaan Harkness 02 Nov '19

02 Nov '19

This looks highly significant to me - public statement of defeat of US "world hegemony" regime, by Brzezinsky, very arguably "the US regime's architect". ** Even Brzezinski, Mastermind of US Hegemony, Says Abandon Imperial Pipe Dreams (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…) ------------------------------------------------------------ by Mike Whitney on Wed, Aug 31, 2016 The original title of this article was: The Broken Chessboard: Brezinski Gives up on EmpireThe main architect of Washington’s plan to rule the world has abandoned the scheme and called for the forging of ties with Russia and China. Read more » (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…)

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Member Berries
by skankhunt42 30 Jul '19

30 Jul '19

> xorcist: > I remember when this list had posts from Assange and others > on actual cryptographic techniques and tools, > where real information was shared. Sounds like you've been eating them member berries [0]. The episode [1] pokes at trolls and the US elections. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndI9vkgw_1Y [1]: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:7b5fd54d7f69f6bb68b1af7be3fbfa2a4489786f&dn

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[WAR] Yugoslavia - Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (by the ICT)
by Zenaan Harkness 08 Oct '18

08 Oct '18

USA destruction of countries - in recent times in our consciousness and the public discourse are the following: - Iraq'a WMDs (non existent) - Libya's "liberation" from its civil war - Syria's chemical weapons (supplied by the CIA it turns out) But the war to destroy Yugoslavia has only just ended with the International Criminal Tribunal's case against Slobodan Milošević finally ending. USA, you have an extremely large debt to the world. ** Wrongly Accused: The Absolution of Slobodan Milošević (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…) ------------------------------------------------------------ by Quintus Curtius on Wed, Aug 31, 2016 Those of us who had some involvement in Bosnian peacekeeping efforts many years ago might be astonished to learn that, after all the propaganda, the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY) finally exonerated Slobodan Milošević of wrongdoing in the Bosnian War of the early 1990s. This result is nothing less than shocking. The full text of the judgment can be found here. Read more » (http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413c…)

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