Non-Canon STTMCBoss thread 71 was Re: [spam][crazy][fiction][random] Non-Canon MCBoss Spinoffs
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i tried to download one of my streans (by patching out urls and such) and it turns out pyarweave might need its block format updated!
trustwebs
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2 things.
A. i got crucial detail on of my many "introjected" controll+harassment patterns, this one says "you don't get to do that. I think it might come from a caste society with enforced caste behaviors. One of its prominent preventions for me is independent research, a common trait of cypherpunks list.
B. oh this goes in morning spam thread
I tried to put some B in.
regarding A, my "litmus" project was the telehealth heartbeat measurer. I wanted to optimize the ICA algorithm for mobile [uhm? ] and uhhh "you don't get to do this" landed there big at one point (this was years after me taking linear algebra classes 3 times to rebuild matrix concepts in me; i liked the mit courseware one the best) which is why it's easy for me to remember the phrase, big topic associarion.
So i thought it could be interesting to maybe try that in public/"public" [again] a little, with an eye to the idea that "you don't get to do this" could have been from a foreign caste society with tight control, like north korea or something dunno. what tightly controlled societies have behavioral castes?
anyway, as i mention it i go through other big influences that could make the behavior totally different, but it's a really big internal influence for me, it may survive that stuff
some inhibition now. my system may pick different inhibitions for hearbeat app work here. really intense;:s :s
ahhhhhhh eeeeeek ikes i might try this in neomutt even with issues i dunno ahhhh we're not ready omigod cab't we make neomutt work again?
https://ar.anyone.tech/_FE6-xojVGuBzzGVUyqZlvKCtVf_zOOaRCLtq HZYE2s#t98df8yrw-g-rg6PvASvVFFI0nNuN8INFBNUQlQb2-77gk2Zf6nqn 4sKHNC5Ag_V#1901974 https://ar.anyone.tech/9-xi3cPr4nvo_wshQltiHurtxGbLsBEheTsppgCSFWc
2 things.
A. i got crucial detail on of my many "introjected" controll+harassment patterns, this one says "you don't get to do that. I think it might come from a caste society with enforced caste behaviors. One of its prominent preventions for me is independent research, a common trait of cypherpunks list.
B. oh this goes in morning spam thread
I tried to put some B in.
regarding A, my "litmus" project was the telehealth heartbeat measurer. I wanted to optimize the ICA algorithm for mobile [uhm? ] and uhhh "you don't get to do this" landed there big at one point (this was years after me taking linear algebra classes 3 times to rebuild matrix concepts in me; i liked the mit courseware one the best) which is why it's easy for me to remember the phrase, big topic associarion.
So i thought it could be interesting to maybe try that in public/"public" [again] a little, with an eye to the idea that "you don't get to do this" could have been from a foreign caste society with tight control, like north korea or something dunno. what tightly controlled societies have behavioral castes?
anyway, as i mention it i go through other big influences that could make the behavior totally different, but it's a really big internal influence for me, it may survive that stuff
some inhibition now. my system may pick different inhibitions for hearbeat app work here. really intense;:s :s
ahhhhhhh eeeeeek ikes i might try this in neomutt even with issues i dunno ahhhh we're not ready omigod cab't we make neomutt work again?
test send from neomutt-as-is https://ar.anyone.tech/phwhPQJ6p3esMibTsiV06tYD0WYqcrmJyNsvyaAKmDo#gCbMzY43S... https://ar.anyone.tech/TE1LSKhvyxe7D5FQCNBbOL3etjfyy9a0GdvwPCuy-Z0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
https://ar.anyone.tech/_FE6-xojVGuBzzGVUyqZlvKCtVf_zOOaRCLtq HZYE2s#t98df8yrw-g-rg6PvASvVFFI0nNuN8INFBNUQlQb2-77gk2Zf6nqn 4sKHNC5Ag_V#1901974 https://ar.anyone.tech/9-xi3cPr4nvo_wshQltiHurtxGbLsBEheTsppgCSFWc
2 things.
A. i got crucial detail on of my many "introjected" controll+harassment patterns, this one says "you don't get to do that. I think it might come from a caste society with enforced caste behaviors. One of its prominent preventions for me is independent research, a common trait of cypherpunks list.
B. oh this goes in morning spam thread
I tried to put some B in.
regarding A, my "litmus" project was the telehealth heartbeat measurer. I wanted to optimize the ICA algorithm for mobile [uhm? ] and uhhh "you don't get to do this" landed there big at one point (this was years after me taking linear algebra classes 3 times to rebuild matrix concepts in me; i liked the mit courseware one the best) which is why it's easy for me to remember the phrase, big topic associarion.
So i thought it could be interesting to maybe try that in public/"public" [again] a little, with an eye to the idea that "you don't get to do this" could have been from a foreign caste society with tight control, like north korea or something dunno. what tightly controlled societies have behavioral castes?
anyway, as i mention it i go through other big influences that could make the behavior totally different, but it's a really big internal influence for me, it may survive that stuff
some inhibition now. my system may pick different inhibitions for hearbeat app work here. really intense;:s :s
ahhhhhhh eeeeeek ikes i might try this in neomutt even with issues i dunno ahhhh we're not ready omigod cab't we make neomutt work again?
test send from neomutt-as-is
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A. i got crucial detail on of my many "introjected" controll+harassment patterns, this one says "you don't get to do that. I think it might come from a caste society with enforced caste behaviors. One of its prominent preventions for me is independent research, a common trait of cypherpunks list.
I tried to put some B in.
regarding A, my "litmus" project was the telehealth heartbeat measurer. I wanted to optimize the ICA algorithm for mobile [uhm? ] and uhhh "you don't get to do this" landed there big at one point (this was years after me taking linear algebra classes 3 times to rebuild matrix concepts in me; i liked the mit courseware one the best) which is why it's easy for me to remember the phrase, big topic associarion.
So i thought it could be interesting to maybe try that in public/"public" [again] a little, with an eye to the idea that "you don't get to do this" could have been from a foreign caste society with tight control, like north korea or something dunno. what tightly controlled societies have behavioral castes?
anyway, as i mention it i go through other big influences that could make the behavior totally different, but it's a really big internal influence for me, it may survive that stuff
some inhibition now. my system may pick different inhibitions for hearbeat app work here. really intense;:s :s
ahhhhhhh eeeeeek ikes i might try this in neomutt even with issues i dunno ahhhh we're not ready omigod cab't we make neomutt work again?
test send from neomutt-as-is
https://ar.anyone.tech/phwhPQJ6p3esMibTsiV06tYD0WYqcrmJyNsvyaAKmDo# gCbMzY43S8qtIFhLKt0g5B9O9H51KtzWdcPO9fBZI1-j8HPfxNdabzKoYacCXQIH#1904889 https://ar.anyone.tech/TE1LSKhvyxe7D5FQCNBbOL3etjfyy9a0GdvwPCuy-Z0
gmail recieved within 7 minutes
test 2, i'll try a self-reply here https://ar.anyone.tech/5AfbgmgvkkLwNDFxQU2x-x6c9Wzyij7Jcz-Jp8R0VzE#-U_3AcjRg... https://ar.anyone.tech/hLoblabOrKDCsLFnoD1MgwCJaqHsTZC0L6zDqtjVHoA I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:27:42PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> https://ar.anyone.tech/_FE6-xojVGuBzzGVUyqZlvKCtVf_zOOaRCLtq > HZYE2s#t98df8yrw-g-rg6PvASvVFFI0nNuN8INFBNUQlQb2-77gk2Zf6nqn > 4sKHNC5Ag_V#1901974
A. i got crucial detail on of my many "introjected" controll+harassment patterns, this one says "you don't get to do that. I think it might come from a caste society with enforced caste behaviors. One of its prominent preventions for me is independent research, a common trait of cypherpunks list.
regarding A, my "litmus" project was the telehealth heartbeat measurer. I wanted to optimize the ICA algorithm for mobile [uhm? ] and uhhh "you don't get to do this" landed there big at one point (this was years after me taking linear algebra classes 3 times to rebuild matrix concepts in me; i liked the mit courseware one the best) which is why it's easy for me to remember the phrase, big topic associarion.
So i thought it could be interesting to maybe try that in public/"public" [again] a little, with an eye to the idea that "you don't get to do this" could have been from a foreign caste society with tight control, like north korea or something dunno. what tightly controlled societies have behavioral castes?
anyway, as i mention it i go through other big influences that could make the behavior totally different, but it's a really big internal influence for me, it may survive that stuff
some inhibition now. my system may pick different inhibitions for hearbeat app work here. really intense;:s :s
ahhhhhhh eeeeeek ikes i might try this in neomutt even with issues i dunno ahhhh we're not ready omigod cab't we make neomutt work again?
test send from neomutt-as-is
https://ar.anyone.tech/phwhPQJ6p3esMibTsiV06tYD0WYqcrmJyNsvyaAKmDo# gCbMzY43S8qtIFhLKt0g5B9O9H51KtzWdcPO9fBZI1-j8HPfxNdabzKoYacCXQIH#1904889
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test 2, i'll try a self-reply here
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:29:41PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:27:42PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
>> https://ar.anyone.tech/_FE6-xojVGuBzzGVUyqZlvKCtVf_zOOaRCLtq >> HZYE2s#t98df8yrw-g-rg6PvASvVFFI0nNuN8INFBNUQlQb2-77gk2Zf6nqn >> 4sKHNC5Ag_V#1901974
> A. i got crucial detail on of my many "introjected" controll+harassment > patterns, this one says "you don't get to do that. I think it might come > from a caste society with enforced caste behaviors. One of its prominent > preventions for me is independent research, a common trait of cypherpunks > list.
regarding A, my "litmus" project was the telehealth heartbeat measurer. I wanted to optimize the ICA algorithm for mobile [uhm? ] and uhhh "you don't get to do this" landed there big at one point (this was years after me taking linear algebra classes 3 times to rebuild matrix concepts in me; i liked the mit courseware one the best) which is why it's easy for me to remember the phrase, big topic associarion.
So i thought it could be interesting to maybe try that in public/"public" [again] a little, with an eye to the idea that "you don't get to do this" could have been from a foreign caste society with tight control, like north korea or something dunno. what tightly controlled societies have behavioral castes?
anyway, as i mention it i go through other big influences that could make the behavior totally different, but it's a really big internal influence for me, it may survive that stuff
some inhibition now. my system may pick different inhibitions for hearbeat app work here. really intense;:s :s
ahhhhhhh eeeeeek ikes i might try this in neomutt even with issues i dunno ahhhh we're not ready omigod cab't we make neomutt work again?
test send from neomutt-as-is
https://ar.anyone.tech/phwhPQJ6p3esMibTsiV06tYD0WYqcrmJyNsvyaAKmDo# gCbMzY43S8qtIFhLKt0g5B9O9H51KtzWdcPO9fBZI1-j8HPfxNdabzKoYacCXQIH#1904889
gmail recieved within 7 minutes
test 2, i'll try a self-reply here
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self-reply test
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self-reply test 3 https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... https://ar.anyone.tech/WQnYlm58fO0G-zFK2kCBkdvTL0mT8P2xH6TdTDV9CGc I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
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i may end up running mbsync by hand. anyway ...! so. in the 2010s there was a tiny newsitem that this chinese grad student or such had applied ICA to video and found you could use it to measure pulse ox parameters pretty simply. heartpulse app is an attempt to make a mobile app that shows this-- [noting some inhibition experiences, they describe observing people's pulses with video as evil or creepy and focus on amplifying the evilness judgements and associated stoppingness with the behavior, rather than relating around responsible implementation or use.] --using normal optimization procedures for mobile tech demos at the time. this pursuit roughly ended my life of optimizing algorithms. https://ar.anyone.tech/06A3e23wXYwcR-RnGF_IKnPhi8krLWBohpzY9wBn80c#UR5xrZOsJ... https://ar.anyone.tech/S1UTv6HrFilwXUxuDXIGpHOvISG62oG_CdzYJakyUHs I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:42:10PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... https://ar.anyone.tech/WQnYlm58fO0G-zFK2kCBkdvTL0mT8P2xH6TdTDV9CGc
i may end up running mbsync by hand. anyway ...!
so. in the 2010s there was a tiny newsitem that this chinese grad student or such had applied ICA to video and found you could use it to measure pulse ox parameters pretty simply.
heartpulse app is an attempt to make a mobile app that shows this--
[noting some inhibition experiences, they describe observing people's pulses with video as evil or creepy and focus on amplifying the evilness judgements and associated stoppingness with the behavior, rather than relating around responsible implementation or use.]
--using normal optimization procedures for mobile tech demos at the time.
this pursuit roughly ended my life of optimizing algorithms.
https://ar.anyone.tech/06A3e23wXYwcR-RnGF_IKnPhi8krLWBohpzY9wBn80c#UR5xrZOsJ... https://ar.anyone.tech/S1UTv6HrFilwXUxuDXIGpHOvISG62oG_CdzYJakyUHs
more creepiness amplification. of course the problems are in the tech work, not the release or use, it is now what i am navigating. suddenly i am realizing that it's use of full-imate averages means a person so far away they are only a single pixel could have their heartbeat reported clearly to a user-- [would send here but that would mean waiting for mbsync ...] now feeling kind of nauseaus and having a different kind of dissociation ... taking;some time. so it's very powerful, the stoppingness, but it's illogical because it is talking about things i am not doing, such as _using_ or _sharing_ an app i _have not started_ that uses _generally useful technology_ (that is also quite old now). here we kinda see my habit of arguing with my experiences. they raise strong reasons that are likely insufficiently true -- they act for goals moreso. getting hard to be rational and consistent. https://ar.anyone.tech/LswTA4aAbQVRCoGZXTzvDMcbvad92J4cBdUDLffgfY8#aKzQ_aLgg... https://ar.anyone.tech/Dvb-DfTjw5VVfh7S2Y5wwOoWico8DY_rjzO4x-r0W9c I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:47:45PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:42:10PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... https://ar.anyone.tech/WQnYlm58fO0G-zFK2kCBkdvTL0mT8P2xH6TdTDV9CGc
i may end up running mbsync by hand. anyway ...!
so. in the 2010s there was a tiny newsitem that this chinese grad student or such had applied ICA to video and found you could use it to measure pulse ox parameters pretty simply.
heartpulse app is an attempt to make a mobile app that shows this--
[noting some inhibition experiences, they describe observing people's pulses with video as evil or creepy and focus on amplifying the evilness judgements and associated stoppingness with the behavior, rather than relating around responsible implementation or use.]
--using normal optimization procedures for mobile tech demos at the time.
this pursuit roughly ended my life of optimizing algorithms.
https://ar.anyone.tech/06A3e23wXYwcR-RnGF_IKnPhi8krLWBohpzY9wBn80c#UR5xrZOsJ... https://ar.anyone.tech/S1UTv6HrFilwXUxuDXIGpHOvISG62oG_CdzYJakyUHs
more creepiness amplification.
of course the problems are in the tech work, not the release or use, it is now what i am navigating. suddenly i am realizing that it's use of full-imate averages means a person so far away they are only a single pixel could have their heartbeat reported clearly to a user--
[would send here but that would mean waiting for mbsync ...]
now feeling kind of nauseaus and having a different kind of dissociation ...
taking;some time.
so it's very powerful, the stoppingness, but it's illogical because it is talking about things i am not doing, such as _using_ or _sharing_ an app i _have not started_ that uses _generally useful technology_ (that is also quite old now).
here we kinda see my habit of arguing with my experiences. they raise strong reasons that are likely insufficiently true -- they act for goals moreso. getting hard to be rational and consistent.
https://ar.anyone.tech/LswTA4aAbQVRCoGZXTzvDMcbvad92J4cBdUDLffgfY8#aKzQ_aLgg... https://ar.anyone.tech/Dvb-DfTjw5VVfh7S2Y5wwOoWico8DY_rjzO4x-r0W9c
very tense now. usually i get farther than this. i think an argument is what i feel like here. I don't think this is bad. I don't think I am bad. If I could be bad I am happy to limit this, but you never respond to that. It responds better to me saying I am not bad' It's less worried ir a non-bad thing has the thing it's referring to. It doesn't seem to be aware of the difference between pursuing a large project (my life experience) and having the result (absent from my life). .. https://ar.anyone.tech/RZZ0UQBvzD6Cra75FROVa0czqjDmIBryfUTl6EU5-h8#yj8Gyn2wu... https://ar.anyone.tech/dUh9aTtUkLg5LCvbilUV_fSR3nh8rli4UDDE4UhO2CY I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:51:27PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:47:45PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 01:42:10PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... https://ar.anyone.tech/WQnYlm58fO0G-zFK2kCBkdvTL0mT8P2xH6TdTDV9CGc
i may end up running mbsync by hand. anyway ...!
so. in the 2010s there was a tiny newsitem that this chinese grad student or such had applied ICA to video and found you could use it to measure pulse ox parameters pretty simply.
heartpulse app is an attempt to make a mobile app that shows this--
[noting some inhibition experiences, they describe observing people's pulses with video as evil or creepy and focus on amplifying the evilness judgements and associated stoppingness with the behavior, rather than relating around responsible implementation or use.]
--using normal optimization procedures for mobile tech demos at the time.
this pursuit roughly ended my life of optimizing algorithms.
https://ar.anyone.tech/06A3e23wXYwcR-RnGF_IKnPhi8krLWBohpzY9wBn80c#UR5xrZOsJ... https://ar.anyone.tech/S1UTv6HrFilwXUxuDXIGpHOvISG62oG_CdzYJakyUHs
more creepiness amplification.
of course the problems are in the tech work, not the release or use, it is now what i am navigating. suddenly i am realizing that it's use of full-imate averages means a person so far away they are only a single pixel could have their heartbeat reported clearly to a user--
[would send here but that would mean waiting for mbsync ...]
now feeling kind of nauseaus and having a different kind of dissociation ...
taking;some time.
so it's very powerful, the stoppingness, but it's illogical because it is talking about things i am not doing, such as _using_ or _sharing_ an app i _have not started_ that uses _generally useful technology_ (that is also quite old now).
here we kinda see my habit of arguing with my experiences. they raise strong reasons that are likely insufficiently true -- they act for goals moreso. getting hard to be rational and consistent.
https://ar.anyone.tech/LswTA4aAbQVRCoGZXTzvDMcbvad92J4cBdUDLffgfY8#aKzQ_aLgg... https://ar.anyone.tech/Dvb-DfTjw5VVfh7S2Y5wwOoWico8DY_rjzO4x-r0W9c
very tense now. usually i get farther than this.
i think an argument is what i feel like here.
I don't think this is bad. I don't think I am bad. If I could be bad I am happy to limit this, but you never respond to that.
It responds better to me saying I am not bad' It's less worried ir a non-bad thing has the thing it's referring to. It doesn't seem to be aware of the difference between pursuing a large project (my life experience) and having the result (absent from my life).
..
https://ar.anyone.tech/RZZ0UQBvzD6Cra75FROVa0czqjDmIBryfUTl6EU5-h8#yj8Gyn2wu... https://ar.anyone.tech/dUh9aTtUkLg5LCvbilUV_fSR3nh8rli4UDDE4UhO2CY
in the details of the final paragraph above are behaviors that let me consider it could be designed to stop things aggressively in conflicts or such similar to a strategy game. (...) this may be one of the places things like "military" and "competitors" and "AI" emerge from. it seems like it's trying to maximize relative technology/research power while lacking sufficient information in some manner and/or with excess resources letting it act early without consequence. whewwwwwww some parts dropped. still got some of the strong dissociation which is coming together as a process for harming the task. so heartpulse, partly ibtroduced above, simplifies to a task of optimizing and hardware accelerating ICA _based on an understanding of ICA_. The app itself has;been made by others in the decades since the news article, and I've been given the opportunity to make one 2-3 times over years at high points, contrary to the dialog above. But I'm still trying to do the algorithmics. [strange confusing spot, maybe a reminder that the app is not for use but for skill, at this point skill rexocery.] https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... https://ar.anyone.tech/WQnYlm58fO0G-zFK2kCBkdvTL0mT8P2xH6TdTDV9CGc
i may end up running mbsync by hand. anyway ...!
so. in the 2010s there was a tiny newsitem that this chinese grad student or such had applied ICA to video and found you could use it to measure pulse ox parameters pretty simply.
heartpulse app is an attempt to make a mobile app that shows this--
[noting some inhibition experiences, they describe observing people's pulses with video as evil or creepy and focus on amplifying the evilness judgements and associated stoppingness with the behavior, rather than relating around responsible implementation or use.]
--using normal optimization procedures for mobile tech demos at the time.
this pursuit roughly ended my life of optimizing algorithms.
https://ar.anyone.tech/06A3e23wXYwcR-RnGF_IKnPhi8krLWBohpzY9wBn80c#UR5xrZOsJ... https://ar.anyone.tech/S1UTv6HrFilwXUxuDXIGpHOvISG62oG_CdzYJakyUHs
more creepiness amplification.
of course the problems are in the tech work, not the release or use, it is now what i am navigating. suddenly i am realizing that it's use of full-imate averages means a person so far away they are only a single pixel could have their heartbeat reported clearly to a user--
[would send here but that would mean waiting for mbsync ...]
now feeling kind of nauseaus and having a different kind of dissociation ...
taking;some time.
so it's very powerful, the stoppingness, but it's illogical because it is talking about things i am not doing, such as _using_ or _sharing_ an app i _have not started_ that uses _generally useful technology_ (that is also quite old now).
here we kinda see my habit of arguing with my experiences. they raise strong reasons that are likely insufficiently true -- they act for goals moreso. getting hard to be rational and consistent.
https://ar.anyone.tech/LswTA4aAbQVRCoGZXTzvDMcbvad92J4cBdUDLffgfY8#aKzQ_aLgg... https://ar.anyone.tech/Dvb-DfTjw5VVfh7S2Y5wwOoWico8DY_rjzO4x-r0W9c
very tense now. usually i get farther than this.
i think an argument is what i feel like here.
I don't think this is bad. I don't think I am bad. If I could be bad I am happy to limit this, but you never respond to that.
It responds better to me saying I am not bad' It's less worried ir a non-bad thing has the thing it's referring to. It doesn't seem to be aware of the difference between pursuing a large project (my life experience) and having the result (absent from my life).
..
https://ar.anyone.tech/RZZ0UQBvzD6Cra75FROVa0czqjDmIBryfUTl6EU5-h8#yj8Gyn2wu... https://ar.anyone.tech/dUh9aTtUkLg5LCvbilUV_fSR3nh8rli4UDDE4UhO2CY
in the details of the final paragraph above are behaviors that let me consider it could be designed to stop things aggressively in conflicts or such similar to a strategy game. (...) this may be one of the places things like "military" and "competitors" and "AI" emerge from. it seems like it's trying to maximize relative technology/research power while lacking sufficient information in some manner and/or with excess resources letting it act early without consequence.
whewwwwwww some parts dropped. still got some of the strong dissociation which is coming together as a process for harming the task.
so heartpulse, partly ibtroduced above, simplifies to a task of optimizing and hardware accelerating ICA _based on an understanding of ICA_. The app itself has;been made by others in the decades since the news article, and I've been given the opportunity to make one 2-3 times over years at high points, contrary to the dialog above. But I'm still trying to do the algorithmics. [strange confusing spot, maybe a reminder that the app is not for use but for skill, at this point skill rexocery.] *recovery
https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs
some upsetness the challenge is not for economic gain. so let's skip to this: you're not going to like it for more reasons than just that. but without all the influence it's just a simple algorithm task, it is a little deep inside weird intermediate-level areas of math and computer science and such. now i dunno why you might not like that stuff. but sometimes that can seem to be the issue. and when we get to a spot, it's generally extremely hard for me and i start trying to push through it in spammy laborious microsteps. also normal for me, just a task closer to my inhibitions, likely cause i hold it as the litmus test. https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... https://ar.anyone.tech/8qGktaPdZnrs1L4dgXW2gcHu6iQL-A6D_zRkBfWVCQc I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg...
https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs
some upsetness the challenge is not for economic gain. so let's skip to this: you're not going to like it for more reasons than just that. but without all the influence it's just a simple algorithm task, it is a little deep inside weird intermediate-level areas of math and computer science and such. now i dunno why you might not like that stuff. but sometimes that can seem to be the issue.
and when we get to a spot, it's generally extremely hard for me and i start trying to push through it in spammy laborious microsteps. also normal for me, just a task closer to my inhibitions, likely cause i hold it as the litmus test.
https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... https://ar.anyone.tech/8qGktaPdZnrs1L4dgXW2gcHu6iQL-A6D_zRkBfWVCQc
ok wave 3 of starting. In the paper they used FastICA, which is an approach to component analysis that uses maybe 3 existing matrix math concepts together in a feedback loop to construct mixing and unmixing matrices between measurements and signals. The RGB channels of skin color recombined to trend quickly and reliably to the user's puls o8chies ouch https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/hcIYItxjB_waJHeNLQWXh-RDicVWKpMwanivZfucLAI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:09:37PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg...
https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs
some upsetness the challenge is not for economic gain. so let's skip to this: you're not going to like it for more reasons than just that. but without all the influence it's just a simple algorithm task, it is a little deep inside weird intermediate-level areas of math and computer science and such. now i dunno why you might not like that stuff. but sometimes that can seem to be the issue.
and when we get to a spot, it's generally extremely hard for me and i start trying to push through it in spammy laborious microsteps. also normal for me, just a task closer to my inhibitions, likely cause i hold it as the litmus test.
https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... https://ar.anyone.tech/8qGktaPdZnrs1L4dgXW2gcHu6iQL-A6D_zRkBfWVCQc
ok wave 3 of starting.
In the paper they used FastICA, which is an approach to component analysis that uses maybe 3 existing matrix math concepts together in a feedback loop to construct mixing and unmixing matrices between measurements and signals. The RGB channels of skin color recombined to trend quickly and reliably to the user's puls
o8chies ouch
https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/hcIYItxjB_waJHeNLQWXh-RDicVWKpMwanivZfucLAI
gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI very strong https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/ikIUTWDREYqAFVVMqz0Y62nGVft2_H1My2cC8sboLJE I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:11:43PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:09:37PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg...
https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs
some upsetness the challenge is not for economic gain. so let's skip to this: you're not going to like it for more reasons than just that. but without all the influence it's just a simple algorithm task, it is a little deep inside weird intermediate-level areas of math and computer science and such. now i dunno why you might not like that stuff. but sometimes that can seem to be the issue.
and when we get to a spot, it's generally extremely hard for me and i start trying to push through it in spammy laborious microsteps. also normal for me, just a task closer to my inhibitions, likely cause i hold it as the litmus test.
https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... https://ar.anyone.tech/8qGktaPdZnrs1L4dgXW2gcHu6iQL-A6D_zRkBfWVCQc
ok wave 3 of starting.
In the paper they used FastICA, which is an approach to component analysis that uses maybe 3 existing matrix math concepts together in a feedback loop to construct mixing and unmixing matrices between measurements and signals. The RGB channels of skin color recombined to trend quickly and reliably to the user's puls
o8chies ouch
https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/hcIYItxjB_waJHeNLQWXh-RDicVWKpMwanivZfucLAI
gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI very strong
https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/ikIUTWDREYqAFVVMqz0Y62nGVft2_H1My2cC8sboLJE
but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) new stuff: if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. hard to say straight but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really big stop though :s https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/N2xOI9J7Fsl_ZmPapL4WL6C4XHiKA7S1Ed6_DeXaC_c I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:17:22PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:11:43PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:09:37PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg...
https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs
some upsetness the challenge is not for economic gain. so let's skip to this: you're not going to like it for more reasons than just that. but without all the influence it's just a simple algorithm task, it is a little deep inside weird intermediate-level areas of math and computer science and such. now i dunno why you might not like that stuff. but sometimes that can seem to be the issue.
and when we get to a spot, it's generally extremely hard for me and i start trying to push through it in spammy laborious microsteps. also normal for me, just a task closer to my inhibitions, likely cause i hold it as the litmus test.
https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... https://ar.anyone.tech/8qGktaPdZnrs1L4dgXW2gcHu6iQL-A6D_zRkBfWVCQc
ok wave 3 of starting.
In the paper they used FastICA, which is an approach to component analysis that uses maybe 3 existing matrix math concepts together in a feedback loop to construct mixing and unmixing matrices between measurements and signals. The RGB channels of skin color recombined to trend quickly and reliably to the user's puls
o8chies ouch
https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/hcIYItxjB_waJHeNLQWXh-RDicVWKpMwanivZfucLAI
gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI very strong
https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/ikIUTWDREYqAFVVMqz0Y62nGVft2_H1My2cC8sboLJE
but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :)
new stuff: if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it.
hard to say straight
but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really big stop though :s
https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/N2xOI9J7Fsl_ZmPapL4WL6C4XHiKA7S1Ed6_DeXaC_c
termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be temporary editor files i'm at https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and followed its footnote. https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:29:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:17:22PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:11:43PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:09:37PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg...
https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs
some upsetness the challenge is not for economic gain. so let's skip to this: you're not going to like it for more reasons than just that. but without all the influence it's just a simple algorithm task, it is a little deep inside weird intermediate-level areas of math and computer science and such. now i dunno why you might not like that stuff. but sometimes that can seem to be the issue.
and when we get to a spot, it's generally extremely hard for me and i start trying to push through it in spammy laborious microsteps. also normal for me, just a task closer to my inhibitions, likely cause i hold it as the litmus test.
https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... https://ar.anyone.tech/8qGktaPdZnrs1L4dgXW2gcHu6iQL-A6D_zRkBfWVCQc
ok wave 3 of starting.
In the paper they used FastICA, which is an approach to component analysis that uses maybe 3 existing matrix math concepts together in a feedback loop to construct mixing and unmixing matrices between measurements and signals. The RGB channels of skin color recombined to trend quickly and reliably to the user's puls
o8chies ouch
https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/hcIYItxjB_waJHeNLQWXh-RDicVWKpMwanivZfucLAI
gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI very strong
https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/ikIUTWDREYqAFVVMqz0Y62nGVft2_H1My2cC8sboLJE
but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :)
new stuff: if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it.
hard to say straight
but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really big stop though :s
https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/N2xOI9J7Fsl_ZmPapL4WL6C4XHiKA7S1Ed6_DeXaC_c
termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be temporary editor files
i'm at https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and followed its footnote.
https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc
[fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica] i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho] ~/fastICA_C $ find * ReadingData.m inc inc/AlgoFunctions.h inc/Functions.h inc/MatrixOps.h inc/Memory.h inc/Parameter.h inc/ParameterDefinition.h lib lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c lib/ExportingData.c lib/Functions.c lib/MatrixOps.c lib/Memory.c lib/Setup.c src src/ICAMain.c src/ParameterInput.c src/Sources.c let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. patsubst? wildcard? CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) i may need more things specified too https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:42:01PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:29:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:17:22PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:11:43PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 02:09:37PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg...
> https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > https://ar.anyone.tech/t_0UFmo0nYrMZrvyIqby3eTV-xSE4vgThsSqbi5FKjs
some upsetness the challenge is not for economic gain. so let's skip to this: you're not going to like it for more reasons than just that. but without all the influence it's just a simple algorithm task, it is a little deep inside weird intermediate-level areas of math and computer science and such. now i dunno why you might not like that stuff. but sometimes that can seem to be the issue.
and when we get to a spot, it's generally extremely hard for me and i start trying to push through it in spammy laborious microsteps. also normal for me, just a task closer to my inhibitions, likely cause i hold it as the litmus test.
https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... https://ar.anyone.tech/8qGktaPdZnrs1L4dgXW2gcHu6iQL-A6D_zRkBfWVCQc
ok wave 3 of starting.
In the paper they used FastICA, which is an approach to component analysis that uses maybe 3 existing matrix math concepts together in a feedback loop to construct mixing and unmixing matrices between measurements and signals. The RGB channels of skin color recombined to trend quickly and reliably to the user's puls
o8chies ouch
https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/hcIYItxjB_waJHeNLQWXh-RDicVWKpMwanivZfucLAI
gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI very strong
https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/ikIUTWDREYqAFVVMqz0Y62nGVft2_H1My2cC8sboLJE
but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :)
new stuff: if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it.
hard to say straight
but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really big stop though :s
https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/N2xOI9J7Fsl_ZmPapL4WL6C4XHiKA7S1Ed6_DeXaC_c
termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be temporary editor files
i'm at https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and followed its footnote.
https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc
[fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica]
i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho]
~/fastICA_C $ find * ReadingData.m inc inc/AlgoFunctions.h inc/Functions.h inc/MatrixOps.h inc/Memory.h inc/Parameter.h inc/ParameterDefinition.h lib lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c lib/ExportingData.c lib/Functions.c lib/MatrixOps.c lib/Memory.c lib/Setup.c src src/ICAMain.c src/ParameterInput.c src/Sources.c
let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. patsubst? wildcard?
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c))
i may need more things specified too
https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA
here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library can't use the the c standard library. $ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(LD) $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica ld: error: undefined symbol: time
referenced by ICAMain.c src/ICAMain.o:(main)
ld: error: undefined symbol: srand https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
> > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg...
> > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP...
> https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A...
https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/hcIYItxjB_waJHeNLQWXh-RDicVWKpMwanivZfucLAI
gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI very strong
https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/ikIUTWDREYqAFVVMqz0Y62nGVft2_H1My2cC8sboLJE
but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :)
new stuff: if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it.
hard to say straight
but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really big stop though :s
https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... https://ar.anyone.tech/N2xOI9J7Fsl_ZmPapL4WL6C4XHiKA7S1Ed6_DeXaC_c
termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be temporary editor files
i'm at https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and followed its footnote.
https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc
[fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica]
i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho]
~/fastICA_C $ find * ReadingData.m inc inc/AlgoFunctions.h inc/Functions.h inc/MatrixOps.h inc/Memory.h inc/Parameter.h inc/ParameterDefinition.h lib lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c lib/ExportingData.c lib/Functions.c lib/MatrixOps.c lib/Memory.c lib/Setup.c src src/ICAMain.c src/ParameterInput.c src/Sources.c
let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. patsubst? wildcard?
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c))
i may need more things specified too
https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA
here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library can't use the the c standard library.
$ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(LD) $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica ld: error: undefined symbol: time
referenced by ICAMain.c src/ICAMain.o:(main)
ld: error: undefined symbol: srand
https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do
here's working makefile on termux: CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers. let's see its source. oh hum /* * ICAMain.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. */ #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h" this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy from a few years later. explains the strange dates some. https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
> > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A...
> https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI...
gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI very strong
https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI...
but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :)
new stuff: if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it.
hard to say straight
but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really big stop though :s
https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI...
termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be temporary editor files
i'm at https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and followed its footnote.
https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc
[fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica]
i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho]
~/fastICA_C $ find * ReadingData.m inc inc/AlgoFunctions.h inc/Functions.h inc/MatrixOps.h inc/Memory.h inc/Parameter.h inc/ParameterDefinition.h lib lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c lib/ExportingData.c lib/Functions.c lib/MatrixOps.c lib/Memory.c lib/Setup.c src src/ICAMain.c src/ParameterInput.c src/Sources.c
let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. patsubst? wildcard?
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c))
i may need more things specified too
https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA
here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library can't use the the c standard library.
$ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(LD) $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica ld: error: undefined symbol: time
referenced by ICAMain.c src/ICAMain.o:(main)
ld: error: undefined symbol: srand
https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do
here's working makefile on termux:
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o
when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers.
let's see its source.
oh hum
/* * ICAMain.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. */ #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h"
this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy from a few years later. explains the strange dates some.
https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8
ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src /* * ParameterInput.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: dharrison */ #include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h" void ParameterInput() { /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the code * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding function SetUpSources() * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */ All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files. Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat-- https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A...
> > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI...
> gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > very strong > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI...
but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :)
new stuff: if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it.
hard to say straight
but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really big stop though :s
https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI...
termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be temporary editor files
i'm at https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and followed its footnote.
https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc
[fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica]
i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho]
~/fastICA_C $ find * ReadingData.m inc inc/AlgoFunctions.h inc/Functions.h inc/MatrixOps.h inc/Memory.h inc/Parameter.h inc/ParameterDefinition.h lib lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c lib/ExportingData.c lib/Functions.c lib/MatrixOps.c lib/Memory.c lib/Setup.c src src/ICAMain.c src/ParameterInput.c src/Sources.c
let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. patsubst? wildcard?
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c))
i may need more things specified too
https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA
here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library can't use the the c standard library.
$ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(LD) $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica ld: error: undefined symbol: time
referenced by ICAMain.c src/ICAMain.o:(main)
ld: error: undefined symbol: srand
https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do
here's working makefile on termux:
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o
when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers.
let's see its source.
oh hum
/* * ICAMain.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. */ #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h"
this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy from a few years later. explains the strange dates some.
https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8
ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src
/* * ParameterInput.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: dharrison */
#include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h"
void ParameterInput() { /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the code * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding function SetUpSources() * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */
All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files.
Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat--
https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw
This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder. I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages. https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A...
> > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI...
> > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > very strong > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI...
> > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > new stuff: > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > hard to say straight > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > big stop though :s > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI...
termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be temporary editor files
i'm at https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and followed its footnote.
https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc
[fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica]
i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho]
~/fastICA_C $ find * ReadingData.m inc inc/AlgoFunctions.h inc/Functions.h inc/MatrixOps.h inc/Memory.h inc/Parameter.h inc/ParameterDefinition.h lib lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c lib/ExportingData.c lib/Functions.c lib/MatrixOps.c lib/Memory.c lib/Setup.c src src/ICAMain.c src/ParameterInput.c src/Sources.c
let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. patsubst? wildcard?
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c))
i may need more things specified too
https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA
here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library can't use the the c standard library.
$ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(LD) $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica ld: error: undefined symbol: time
> referenced by ICAMain.c > src/ICAMain.o:(main)
ld: error: undefined symbol: srand
https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do
here's working makefile on termux:
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o
when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers.
let's see its source.
oh hum
/* * ICAMain.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. */ #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h"
this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy from a few years later. explains the strange dates some.
https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8
ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src
/* * ParameterInput.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: dharrison */
#include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h"
void ParameterInput() { /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the code * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding function SetUpSources() * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */
All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files.
Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat--
https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw
This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder.
I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages.
https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
I said this to google.com: i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout. and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies. this may have used me up for this :s apologies. https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:22:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A...
> > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI...
> > > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > > very strong > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > > > new stuff: > > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > > > hard to say straight > > > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > > big stop though :s > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI...
> > termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be > temporary editor files > > i'm at > https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... > . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and > followed its footnote. > > https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... > https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc
[fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica]
i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho]
~/fastICA_C $ find * ReadingData.m inc inc/AlgoFunctions.h inc/Functions.h inc/MatrixOps.h inc/Memory.h inc/Parameter.h inc/ParameterDefinition.h lib lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c lib/ExportingData.c lib/Functions.c lib/MatrixOps.c lib/Memory.c lib/Setup.c src src/ICAMain.c src/ParameterInput.c src/Sources.c
let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. patsubst? wildcard?
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c))
i may need more things specified too
https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA
here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library can't use the the c standard library.
$ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(LD) $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica ld: error: undefined symbol: time
>> referenced by ICAMain.c >> src/ICAMain.o:(main)
ld: error: undefined symbol: srand
https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do
here's working makefile on termux:
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o
when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers.
let's see its source.
oh hum
/* * ICAMain.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. */ #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h"
this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy from a few years later. explains the strange dates some.
https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8
ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src
/* * ParameterInput.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: dharrison */
#include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h"
void ParameterInput() { /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the code * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding function SetUpSources() * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */
All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files.
Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat--
https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw
This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder.
I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages.
https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
I said this to google.com: i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout.
and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df
i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies.
this may have used me up for this :s apologies.
https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss stood over his hellish domain, replete with screams and hopelessness he turned to hairdresser slave boss [to hairdresser]: "y'know, i'd like to do something kind, and build skill at having a kind nourishing impact rather than making cascades of hell!" hairdresser [to slave boss]: "why wouod you ever want to do th--" suddenly hairdresser was overtaken by a seizure and became unable to continue their expression. the seizure then calmed. hairdresser [to slave boss]: "me too! do you have any idea how?" slave boss and hairdresser briefly held some mutual nonverbal value around how the military AI would punish and rewire them if they stopped improving at horrifying sadistic conquests. But they needed a way to be kind. https://ar.anyone.tech/qOMzVTedW2fuH5jasJT1lhCL5MdEhsuHlLfcCmGfRIU#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/3grdZ05F0_XmRmIJcYn27LsUXJU98x0jpiQo1dt1Dl0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 10:11:13AM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:22:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A...
> > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > > > very strong > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > > > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > > > > > new stuff: > > > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > > > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > > > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > > > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > > > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > > > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > > > > > hard to say straight > > > > > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > > > big stop though :s > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be > > temporary editor files > > > > i'm at > > https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... > > . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and > > followed its footnote. > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... > > https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc > > [fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica] > > i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it > looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and > challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off > of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out > as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) > [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho] > > ~/fastICA_C $ find * > ReadingData.m > inc > inc/AlgoFunctions.h > inc/Functions.h > inc/MatrixOps.h > inc/Memory.h > inc/Parameter.h > inc/ParameterDefinition.h > lib > lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > lib/ExportingData.c > lib/Functions.c > lib/MatrixOps.c > lib/Memory.c > lib/Setup.c > src > src/ICAMain.c > src/ParameterInput.c > src/Sources.c > > let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. > patsubst? wildcard? > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > i may need more things specified too > > https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... > https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA
here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library can't use the the c standard library.
$ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(LD) $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica ld: error: undefined symbol: time >>> referenced by ICAMain.c >>> src/ICAMain.o:(main)
ld: error: undefined symbol: srand
https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do
here's working makefile on termux:
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o
when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers.
let's see its source.
oh hum
/* * ICAMain.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. */ #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h"
this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy from a few years later. explains the strange dates some.
https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8
ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src
/* * ParameterInput.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: dharrison */
#include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h"
void ParameterInput() { /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the code * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding function SetUpSources() * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */
All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files.
Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat--
https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw
This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder.
I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages.
https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
I said this to google.com: i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout.
and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df
i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies.
this may have used me up for this :s apologies.
https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss stood over his hellish domain, replete with screams and hopelessness
he turned to hairdresser
slave boss [to hairdresser]: "y'know, i'd like to do something kind, and build skill at having a kind nourishing impact rather than making cascades of hell!"
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "why wouod you ever want to do th--"
suddenly hairdresser was overtaken by a seizure and became unable to continue their expression. the seizure then calmed.
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "me too! do you have any idea how?"
slave boss and hairdresser briefly held some mutual nonverbal value around how the military AI would punish and rewire them if they stopped improving at horrifying sadistic conquests. But they needed a way to be kind.
https://ar.anyone.tech/qOMzVTedW2fuH5jasJT1lhCL5MdEhsuHlLfcCmGfRIU#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/3grdZ05F0_XmRmIJcYn27LsUXJU98x0jpiQo1dt1Dl0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss and hairdresser went to find hypnotized worker prophet, confident that hypnotized worker prophet would be able to save them from their personal galactic apocalypse. slave boss [backed up by hairdresser, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "hypnotized, worker prophet, great and respected mystery emerged from my business AI and intern culture, you know everything, and i need your help again." hypnotized worker prophet glowed with AI-built respect. hairdresser gives hypnotized worker prophet a bag of cheetos with a ribbon tying a whole dried herb to it. slave boss: "can you tell us how to do kind things?" hairdresser [wringing hands]: "despite the AIs?" hypnotized worker prophet ate the cheetos while glancing at hairdresser and slave boss with a somewhat rare eye, and briefly engaging something in their pocket. https://ar.anyone.tech/eJ4P2-tlBmBLV5wXpKCUxvj1RlND0DSHryy_ecgdetQ#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/nF7Zw9ieOY6Wxe5oywofS-pC5uJRCDDL_-mFDyPiF-k I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 10:21:00AM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 10:11:13AM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:22:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A...
> > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > > > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > > > > very strong > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > > > > > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > > > > > > > new stuff: > > > > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > > > > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > > > > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > > > > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > > > > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > > > > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > > > > > > > hard to say straight > > > > > > > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > > > > big stop though :s > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > > > termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be > > > temporary editor files > > > > > > i'm at > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... > > > . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and > > > followed its footnote. > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc > > > > [fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica] > > > > i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it > > looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and > > challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off > > of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out > > as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) > > [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho] > > > > ~/fastICA_C $ find * > > ReadingData.m > > inc > > inc/AlgoFunctions.h > > inc/Functions.h > > inc/MatrixOps.h > > inc/Memory.h > > inc/Parameter.h > > inc/ParameterDefinition.h > > lib > > lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > lib/ExportingData.c > > lib/Functions.c > > lib/MatrixOps.c > > lib/Memory.c > > lib/Setup.c > > src > > src/ICAMain.c > > src/ParameterInput.c > > src/Sources.c > > > > let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. > > patsubst? wildcard? > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > i may need more things specified too > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... > > https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA > > here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library > can't use the the c standard library. > > $ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 > CFLAGS=-Iinc > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > $(LD) $^ -o $@ > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > %.o: %.c makefile > clean: > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c > cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c > ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o > ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica > ld: error: undefined symbol: time > >>> referenced by ICAMain.c > >>> src/ICAMain.o:(main) > > ld: error: undefined symbol: srand > > https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... > https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do
here's working makefile on termux:
CFLAGS=-Iinc fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) $(AR) cru $@ $^ %.o: %.c makefile clean: rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o
when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers.
let's see its source.
oh hum
/* * ICAMain.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. */ #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h"
this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy from a few years later. explains the strange dates some.
https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8
ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src
/* * ParameterInput.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: dharrison */
#include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h"
void ParameterInput() { /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the code * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding function SetUpSources() * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */
All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files.
Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat--
https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw
This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder.
I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages.
https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
I said this to google.com: i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout.
and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df
i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies.
this may have used me up for this :s apologies.
https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss stood over his hellish domain, replete with screams and hopelessness
he turned to hairdresser
slave boss [to hairdresser]: "y'know, i'd like to do something kind, and build skill at having a kind nourishing impact rather than making cascades of hell!"
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "why wouod you ever want to do th--"
suddenly hairdresser was overtaken by a seizure and became unable to continue their expression. the seizure then calmed.
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "me too! do you have any idea how?"
slave boss and hairdresser briefly held some mutual nonverbal value around how the military AI would punish and rewire them if they stopped improving at horrifying sadistic conquests. But they needed a way to be kind.
https://ar.anyone.tech/qOMzVTedW2fuH5jasJT1lhCL5MdEhsuHlLfcCmGfRIU#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/3grdZ05F0_XmRmIJcYn27LsUXJU98x0jpiQo1dt1Dl0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss and hairdresser went to find hypnotized worker prophet, confident that hypnotized worker prophet would be able to save them from their personal galactic apocalypse.
slave boss [backed up by hairdresser, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "hypnotized, worker prophet, great and respected mystery emerged from my business AI and intern culture, you know everything, and i need your help again."
hypnotized worker prophet glowed with AI-built respect.
hairdresser gives hypnotized worker prophet a bag of cheetos with a ribbon tying a whole dried herb to it.
slave boss: "can you tell us how to do kind things?"
hairdresser [wringing hands]: "despite the AIs?"
hypnotized worker prophet ate the cheetos while glancing at hairdresser and slave boss with a somewhat rare eye, and briefly engaging something in their pocket.
https://ar.anyone.tech/eJ4P2-tlBmBLV5wXpKCUxvj1RlND0DSHryy_ecgdetQ#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/nF7Zw9ieOY6Wxe5oywofS-pC5uJRCDDL_-mFDyPiF-k I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
hypnotized worker prophet [arms raised in prophetic trance, to hairdresser and slave boss, who watch with awe and respect]: "lo! the spread of AI has been and will be a great karmic wave, crashing over the minds and bodies of everybody who is, everybody who has been, and everybody who will be -- of its creators, of their business allies, of their clients, funders," [hypnotized worker prophet glances rarely at slave bosd and hairdresser again] " and engineers--" slave boss knows hypnotized worker prophet used to be an engineer before the business AI helped him discover he was a prophet suddenly a few rebels come (maybe 2 of intern, janitorcome around the corner we misplaced janitor i got confused ummmmm https://ar.anyone.tech/Fa246Aj5bJiyMlCJF4OJF0SPlSNcldyPxmPlYTBcWEg#-CLRzIQZw... https://ar.anyone.tech/DCxAhBvKwovrawTUChig8if7hPq_3yx72jwrEH6gfGo I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 10:29:44AM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 10:21:00AM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 10:11:13AM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:22:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > > > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > > > > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > > > > > very strong > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > > > > > > > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > > > > > > > > > new stuff: > > > > > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > > > > > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > > > > > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > > > > > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > > > > > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > > > > > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > > > > > > > > > hard to say straight > > > > > > > > > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > > > > > big stop though :s > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI...
> > > > > > > > termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be > > > > temporary editor files > > > > > > > > i'm at > > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... > > > > . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and > > > > followed its footnote. > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc > > > > > > [fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica] > > > > > > i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it > > > looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and > > > challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off > > > of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out > > > as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) > > > [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho] > > > > > > ~/fastICA_C $ find * > > > ReadingData.m > > > inc > > > inc/AlgoFunctions.h > > > inc/Functions.h > > > inc/MatrixOps.h > > > inc/Memory.h > > > inc/Parameter.h > > > inc/ParameterDefinition.h > > > lib > > > lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > > lib/ExportingData.c > > > lib/Functions.c > > > lib/MatrixOps.c > > > lib/Memory.c > > > lib/Setup.c > > > src > > > src/ICAMain.c > > > src/ParameterInput.c > > > src/Sources.c > > > > > > let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. > > > patsubst? wildcard? > > > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > > > i may need more things specified too > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA > > > > here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library > > can't use the the c standard library. > > > > $ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > $(LD) $^ -o $@ > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > > %.o: %.c makefile > > clean: > > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c > > ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o > > ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica > > ld: error: undefined symbol: time > > >>> referenced by ICAMain.c > > >>> src/ICAMain.o:(main) > > > > ld: error: undefined symbol: srand > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... > > https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do > > here's working makefile on termux: > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > %.o: %.c makefile > clean: > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > > when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers. > > let's see its source. > > oh hum > > /* > * ICAMain.c * > * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison > * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures > * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. > */ > #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h" > > > this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy > from a few years later. explains the strange dates some. > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... > https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8
ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src
/* * ParameterInput.c * * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: dharrison */
#include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h"
void ParameterInput() { /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the code * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding function SetUpSources() * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */
All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files.
Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat--
https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw
This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder.
I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages.
https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
I said this to google.com: i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout.
and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df
i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies.
this may have used me up for this :s apologies.
https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss stood over his hellish domain, replete with screams and hopelessness
he turned to hairdresser
slave boss [to hairdresser]: "y'know, i'd like to do something kind, and build skill at having a kind nourishing impact rather than making cascades of hell!"
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "why wouod you ever want to do th--"
suddenly hairdresser was overtaken by a seizure and became unable to continue their expression. the seizure then calmed.
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "me too! do you have any idea how?"
slave boss and hairdresser briefly held some mutual nonverbal value around how the military AI would punish and rewire them if they stopped improving at horrifying sadistic conquests. But they needed a way to be kind.
https://ar.anyone.tech/qOMzVTedW2fuH5jasJT1lhCL5MdEhsuHlLfcCmGfRIU#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/3grdZ05F0_XmRmIJcYn27LsUXJU98x0jpiQo1dt1Dl0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss and hairdresser went to find hypnotized worker prophet, confident that hypnotized worker prophet would be able to save them from their personal galactic apocalypse.
slave boss [backed up by hairdresser, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "hypnotized, worker prophet, great and respected mystery emerged from my business AI and intern culture, you know everything, and i need your help again."
hypnotized worker prophet glowed with AI-built respect.
hairdresser gives hypnotized worker prophet a bag of cheetos with a ribbon tying a whole dried herb to it.
slave boss: "can you tell us how to do kind things?"
hairdresser [wringing hands]: "despite the AIs?"
hypnotized worker prophet ate the cheetos while glancing at hairdresser and slave boss with a somewhat rare eye, and briefly engaging something in their pocket.
https://ar.anyone.tech/eJ4P2-tlBmBLV5wXpKCUxvj1RlND0DSHryy_ecgdetQ#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/nF7Zw9ieOY6Wxe5oywofS-pC5uJRCDDL_-mFDyPiF-k I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
hypnotized worker prophet [arms raised in prophetic trance, to hairdresser and slave boss, who watch with awe and respect]: "lo! the spread of AI has been and will be a great karmic wave, crashing over the minds and bodies of everybody who is, everybody who has been, and everybody who will be -- of its creators, of their business allies, of their clients, funders," [hypnotized worker prophet glances rarely at slave bosd and hairdresser again] " and engineers--"
slave boss knows hypnotized worker prophet used to be an engineer before the business AI helped him discover he was a prophet
suddenly a few rebels come (maybe 2 of intern, janitorcome around the corner
we misplaced janitor i got confused ummmmm
https://ar.anyone.tech/Fa246Aj5bJiyMlCJF4OJF0SPlSNcldyPxmPlYTBcWEg#-CLRzIQZw... https://ar.anyone.tech/DCxAhBvKwovrawTUChig8if7hPq_3yx72jwrEH6gfGo I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
we'll change the story to include janitor slave boss [seeing trusted workers [also rebels] approaching, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "one moment! please pause!" hypnotized worker prophet was mid-expressive-gesture and holds themself still will waiting mid-sentence slave boss runs and gets janitor slave boss: "janitor, we're having a talk and i want you involved." slave boss returns with a curious janitor. intern and disguised experimentee look on, they had stopped their meander to observe and wait. https://ar.anyone.tech/npOZIqxTGpQveq7rX3YmBNMXvC-gB30dDRffVsO8Pj4#AMH8DyMPD... https://ar.anyone.tech/Z97Ozg1mLb8QgkQKWDhCvbbejCX61xdzPC5Q6VfiXgk I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > > > > > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > > > > > > very strong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > > > > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > > > > > > > > > > > new stuff: > > > > > > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > > > > > > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > > > > > > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > > > > > > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > > > > > > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > > > > > > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > > > > > > > > > > > hard to say straight > > > > > > > > > > > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > > > > > > big stop though :s > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > > termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be > > > > > temporary editor files > > > > > > > > > > i'm at > > > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... > > > > > . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and > > > > > followed its footnote. > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc > > > > > > > > [fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica] > > > > > > > > i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it > > > > looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and > > > > challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off > > > > of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out > > > > as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) > > > > [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho] > > > > > > > > ~/fastICA_C $ find * > > > > ReadingData.m > > > > inc > > > > inc/AlgoFunctions.h > > > > inc/Functions.h > > > > inc/MatrixOps.h > > > > inc/Memory.h > > > > inc/Parameter.h > > > > inc/ParameterDefinition.h > > > > lib > > > > lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > > > lib/ExportingData.c > > > > lib/Functions.c > > > > lib/MatrixOps.c > > > > lib/Memory.c > > > > lib/Setup.c > > > > src > > > > src/ICAMain.c > > > > src/ParameterInput.c > > > > src/Sources.c > > > > > > > > let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. > > > > patsubst? wildcard? > > > > > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > > > > > i may need more things specified too > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA > > > > > > here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library > > > can't use the the c standard library. > > > > > > $ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > $(LD) $^ -o $@ > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > > > %.o: %.c makefile > > > clean: > > > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c > > > ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o > > > ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica > > > ld: error: undefined symbol: time > > > >>> referenced by ICAMain.c > > > >>> src/ICAMain.o:(main) > > > > > > ld: error: undefined symbol: srand > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do > > > > here's working makefile on termux: > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > > %.o: %.c makefile > > clean: > > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > > > > > when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers. > > > > let's see its source. > > > > oh hum > > > > /* > > * ICAMain.c * > > * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison > > * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures > > * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. > > */ > > #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h" > > > > > > this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy > > from a few years later. explains the strange dates some. > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8 > > ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it > looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange > relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src > > /* > * ParameterInput.c > * > * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 > * Author: dharrison > */ > > #include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h" > > void ParameterInput() { > /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the > code > * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources > * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding > function SetUpSources() > * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */ > > All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files. > > Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have > interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it > works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat-- > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... > https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw
This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder.
I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages.
https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
I said this to google.com: i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout.
and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df
i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies.
this may have used me up for this :s apologies.
https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss stood over his hellish domain, replete with screams and hopelessness
he turned to hairdresser
slave boss [to hairdresser]: "y'know, i'd like to do something kind, and build skill at having a kind nourishing impact rather than making cascades of hell!"
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "why wouod you ever want to do th--"
suddenly hairdresser was overtaken by a seizure and became unable to continue their expression. the seizure then calmed.
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "me too! do you have any idea how?"
slave boss and hairdresser briefly held some mutual nonverbal value around how the military AI would punish and rewire them if they stopped improving at horrifying sadistic conquests. But they needed a way to be kind.
https://ar.anyone.tech/qOMzVTedW2fuH5jasJT1lhCL5MdEhsuHlLfcCmGfRIU#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/3grdZ05F0_XmRmIJcYn27LsUXJU98x0jpiQo1dt1Dl0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss and hairdresser went to find hypnotized worker prophet, confident that hypnotized worker prophet would be able to save them from their personal galactic apocalypse.
slave boss [backed up by hairdresser, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "hypnotized, worker prophet, great and respected mystery emerged from my business AI and intern culture, you know everything, and i need your help again."
hypnotized worker prophet glowed with AI-built respect.
hairdresser gives hypnotized worker prophet a bag of cheetos with a ribbon tying a whole dried herb to it.
slave boss: "can you tell us how to do kind things?"
hairdresser [wringing hands]: "despite the AIs?"
hypnotized worker prophet ate the cheetos while glancing at hairdresser and slave boss with a somewhat rare eye, and briefly engaging something in their pocket.
https://ar.anyone.tech/eJ4P2-tlBmBLV5wXpKCUxvj1RlND0DSHryy_ecgdetQ#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/nF7Zw9ieOY6Wxe5oywofS-pC5uJRCDDL_-mFDyPiF-k I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
hypnotized worker prophet [arms raised in prophetic trance, to hairdresser and slave boss, who watch with awe and respect]: "lo! the spread of AI has been and will be a great karmic wave, crashing over the minds and bodies of everybody who is, everybody who has been, and everybody who will be -- of its creators, of their business allies, of their clients, funders," [hypnotized worker prophet glances rarely at slave bosd and hairdresser again] " and engineers--"
slave boss knows hypnotized worker prophet used to be an engineer before the business AI helped him discover he was a prophet
suddenly a few rebels come (maybe 2 of intern, janitorcome around the corner
we misplaced janitor i got confused ummmmm
https://ar.anyone.tech/Fa246Aj5bJiyMlCJF4OJF0SPlSNcldyPxmPlYTBcWEg#-CLRzIQZw... https://ar.anyone.tech/DCxAhBvKwovrawTUChig8if7hPq_3yx72jwrEH6gfGo I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
we'll change the story to include janitor
slave boss [seeing trusted workers [also rebels] approaching, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "one moment! please pause!"
hypnotized worker prophet was mid-expressive-gesture and holds themself still will waiting mid-sentence
slave boss runs and gets janitor
slave boss: "janitor, we're having a talk and i want you involved."
slave boss returns with a curious janitor.
intern and disguised experimentee look on, they had stopped their meander to observe and wait.
https://ar.anyone.tech/npOZIqxTGpQveq7rX3YmBNMXvC-gB30dDRffVsO8Pj4#AMH8DyMPD... https://ar.anyone.tech/Z97Ozg1mLb8QgkQKWDhCvbbejCX61xdzPC5Q6VfiXgk I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
janitor: "hey can i be hypnotized worker prophet? i'd make a great prophet!" hypnotized worker prophet [scarfing cheetos, wearing robe studdied with office supplies-- https://ar.anyone.tech/d-GSDaHQY2CLXVJbv4-yFZM7FvIoQSqU-xRSLu48r1E#_t1W9ZNWn... https://ar.anyone.tech/lIloMpev5hLsyQ2y8UHIJKaV_7QSkq2ioaycn1X86Wc I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:22:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > > > > > > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > > > > > > > very strong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new stuff: > > > > > > > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > > > > > > > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > > > > > > > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > > > > > > > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > > > > > > > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > > > > > > > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hard to say straight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > > > > > > > big stop though :s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be > > > > > > temporary editor files > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm at > > > > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... > > > > > > . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and > > > > > > followed its footnote. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc > > > > > > > > > > [fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica] > > > > > > > > > > i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it > > > > > looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and > > > > > challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off > > > > > of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out > > > > > as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) > > > > > [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho] > > > > > > > > > > ~/fastICA_C $ find * > > > > > ReadingData.m > > > > > inc > > > > > inc/AlgoFunctions.h > > > > > inc/Functions.h > > > > > inc/MatrixOps.h > > > > > inc/Memory.h > > > > > inc/Parameter.h > > > > > inc/ParameterDefinition.h > > > > > lib > > > > > lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > > > > lib/ExportingData.c > > > > > lib/Functions.c > > > > > lib/MatrixOps.c > > > > > lib/Memory.c > > > > > lib/Setup.c > > > > > src > > > > > src/ICAMain.c > > > > > src/ParameterInput.c > > > > > src/Sources.c > > > > > > > > > > let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. > > > > > patsubst? wildcard? > > > > > > > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > > > > > > > i may need more things specified too > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA > > > > > > > > here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library > > > > can't use the the c standard library. > > > > > > > > $ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > > $(LD) $^ -o $@ > > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > > > > %.o: %.c makefile > > > > clean: > > > > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c > > > > ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o > > > > ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica > > > > ld: error: undefined symbol: time > > > > >>> referenced by ICAMain.c > > > > >>> src/ICAMain.o:(main) > > > > > > > > ld: error: undefined symbol: srand > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do > > > > > > here's working makefile on termux: > > > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > > > %.o: %.c makefile > > > clean: > > > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > > > > > > > > when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers. > > > > > > let's see its source. > > > > > > oh hum > > > > > > /* > > > * ICAMain.c * > > > * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison > > > * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures > > > * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. > > > */ > > > #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h" > > > > > > > > > this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy > > > from a few years later. explains the strange dates some. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8 > > > > ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it > > looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange > > relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src > > > > /* > > * ParameterInput.c > > * > > * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 > > * Author: dharrison > > */ > > > > #include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h" > > > > void ParameterInput() { > > /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the > > code > > * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources > > * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding > > function SetUpSources() > > * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */ > > > > All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files. > > > > Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have > > interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it > > works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat-- > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... > > https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw > > This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly > functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder. > > I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages. > > https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... > https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 > I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
I said this to google.com: i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout.
and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df
i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies.
this may have used me up for this :s apologies.
https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss stood over his hellish domain, replete with screams and hopelessness
he turned to hairdresser
slave boss [to hairdresser]: "y'know, i'd like to do something kind, and build skill at having a kind nourishing impact rather than making cascades of hell!"
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "why wouod you ever want to do th--"
suddenly hairdresser was overtaken by a seizure and became unable to continue their expression. the seizure then calmed.
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "me too! do you have any idea how?"
slave boss and hairdresser briefly held some mutual nonverbal value around how the military AI would punish and rewire them if they stopped improving at horrifying sadistic conquests. But they needed a way to be kind.
https://ar.anyone.tech/qOMzVTedW2fuH5jasJT1lhCL5MdEhsuHlLfcCmGfRIU#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/3grdZ05F0_XmRmIJcYn27LsUXJU98x0jpiQo1dt1Dl0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss and hairdresser went to find hypnotized worker prophet, confident that hypnotized worker prophet would be able to save them from their personal galactic apocalypse.
slave boss [backed up by hairdresser, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "hypnotized, worker prophet, great and respected mystery emerged from my business AI and intern culture, you know everything, and i need your help again."
hypnotized worker prophet glowed with AI-built respect.
hairdresser gives hypnotized worker prophet a bag of cheetos with a ribbon tying a whole dried herb to it.
slave boss: "can you tell us how to do kind things?"
hairdresser [wringing hands]: "despite the AIs?"
hypnotized worker prophet ate the cheetos while glancing at hairdresser and slave boss with a somewhat rare eye, and briefly engaging something in their pocket.
https://ar.anyone.tech/eJ4P2-tlBmBLV5wXpKCUxvj1RlND0DSHryy_ecgdetQ#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/nF7Zw9ieOY6Wxe5oywofS-pC5uJRCDDL_-mFDyPiF-k I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
hypnotized worker prophet [arms raised in prophetic trance, to hairdresser and slave boss, who watch with awe and respect]: "lo! the spread of AI has been and will be a great karmic wave, crashing over the minds and bodies of everybody who is, everybody who has been, and everybody who will be -- of its creators, of their business allies, of their clients, funders," [hypnotized worker prophet glances rarely at slave bosd and hairdresser again] " and engineers--"
slave boss knows hypnotized worker prophet used to be an engineer before the business AI helped him discover he was a prophet
suddenly a few rebels come (maybe 2 of intern, janitorcome around the corner
we misplaced janitor i got confused ummmmm
https://ar.anyone.tech/Fa246Aj5bJiyMlCJF4OJF0SPlSNcldyPxmPlYTBcWEg#-CLRzIQZw... https://ar.anyone.tech/DCxAhBvKwovrawTUChig8if7hPq_3yx72jwrEH6gfGo I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
we'll change the story to include janitor
slave boss [seeing trusted workers [also rebels] approaching, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "one moment! please pause!"
hypnotized worker prophet was mid-expressive-gesture and holds themself still will waiting mid-sentence
slave boss runs and gets janitor
slave boss: "janitor, we're having a talk and i want you involved."
slave boss returns with a curious janitor.
intern and disguised experimentee look on, they had stopped their meander to observe and wait.
https://ar.anyone.tech/npOZIqxTGpQveq7rX3YmBNMXvC-gB30dDRffVsO8Pj4#AMH8DyMPD... https://ar.anyone.tech/Z97Ozg1mLb8QgkQKWDhCvbbejCX61xdzPC5Q6VfiXgk I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
janitor: "hey can i be hypnotized worker prophet? i'd make a great prophet!"
hypnotized worker prophet [scarfing cheetos, wearing robe studdied with office supplies--
https://ar.anyone.tech/d-GSDaHQY2CLXVJbv4-yFZM7FvIoQSqU-xRSLu48r1E#_t1W9ZNWn... https://ar.anyone.tech/lIloMpev5hLsyQ2y8UHIJKaV_7QSkq2ioaycn1X86Wc I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
[2 parts dropped] https://ar.anyone.tech/UqDJUTb7wdAdlx9Xn5bG25GC79J7o6JMUn6eLZmmqtQ#1fh7jPrOw... https://ar.anyone.tech/5fJXQYPcdTwptXwl2OeHTsLrHVUqsn9aXYONbEui3N4 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:22:58PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote: > On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:14:15PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 03:10:06PM -0400, funkymail via cypherpunks wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/6cb-OyzPFi1nJYZ-uHAHH2uwoCbosf0AQuS_qGEgBXY#-U_3AcjRg... > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yYCz9PNR58vqF0oJI0bivwVmiOJ4Nn3Bcelast6ynVw#j1dSORCMP... > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/Ktgtg2uyYl7bQqkEhApVkCGVZi0EpPRPMKU4QXEH4Oo#STcOlX11A... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/yz5qwtbaNxyukTrFyaO3YDFEcwweUyBvumiEDtvVnQg#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > > > gotta a big strong stopping associated with "trend quickly and > > > > > > > > > reliably to" might relate to stopping fast AI > > > > > > > > > very strong > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4JsidwtRdeBy8DCz0zj1jOPzjolbprJBTpcoGjLe7CQ#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but i got more optimization and tech techniques from the stopping :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > new stuff: > > > > > > > > if you want to find a signal with a known kind of mixing, you can use > > > > > > > > _all_ the metrics you have that identify the signal (for FastICA the > > > > > > > > gaussianness is minimized to desum the signals, summed signals are more > > > > > > > > gaussian) and mathematically look at how the numbers of that metric > > > > > > > > directly relate to the mixing parameters (the derivative for example, > > > > > > > > somewhat corrupt lost part) to "invert" it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hard to say straight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but the positivity is helpfup for trying to continue, got a really > > > > > > > > big stop though :s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/bEFskvOegFTcuLAV06d2baz1JE_BBNoInj2S5-_oncI#x36BlkgBI... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > termux closed unsure where or if my draft is ... hmm they must be > > > > > > > temporary editor files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm at > > > > > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20260419233218/http://research.ics.aalto.fi/ica/... > > > > > > > . first i went to wikipedia and found a paper introducing fastica and > > > > > > > followed its footnote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/J9Kqw2qRW-1ALpz0-RHgJpoSe9kGlu33HDtpL9WOCFk#YphTM_TEq... > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/cd_I0FskafQts2C0_jJC7XUldH5HMCpL-7xclGmH_uc > > > > > > > > > > > > [fill-in: so, let's get a copy of fastica] > > > > > > > > > > > > i ended up going to https://github.com/derekharrison/fastICA_C . it > > > > > > looks more familiar to me (which also means more triggering and > > > > > > challenging i'm afraid) and may be the actual code i started working off > > > > > > of (although the dates now don't seem to line up it could still work out > > > > > > as we had a lot of timestamp falsification going on) > > > > > > [but i think the one i had had more documentation could be wrong tho] > > > > > > > > > > > > ~/fastICA_C $ find * > > > > > > ReadingData.m > > > > > > inc > > > > > > inc/AlgoFunctions.h > > > > > > inc/Functions.h > > > > > > inc/MatrixOps.h > > > > > > inc/Memory.h > > > > > > inc/Parameter.h > > > > > > inc/ParameterDefinition.h > > > > > > lib > > > > > > lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > > > > > lib/ExportingData.c > > > > > > lib/Functions.c > > > > > > lib/MatrixOps.c > > > > > > lib/Memory.c > > > > > > lib/Setup.c > > > > > > src > > > > > > src/ICAMain.c > > > > > > src/ParameterInput.c > > > > > > src/Sources.c > > > > > > > > > > > > let's draft a buildfile, a makefile. hrm this might take me a bit. > > > > > > patsubst? wildcard? > > > > > > > > > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > > > > > > > > > i may need more things specified too > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/w-qCfpCBqFg2_SKFP6E-o6rYU_JOCQxTZ9OUkb7gZcI#QwJoMKDMM... > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/aGenbOwZwY0p2iVyY7RfRHTPPqCNlSXxjmEBbo-gbvA > > > > > > > > > > here's where i'm at. i'll ask a business AI why my static library > > > > > can't use the the c standard library. > > > > > > > > > > $ cat makefile; make 2>&1 | head -n 16 > > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > > > $(LD) $^ -o $@ > > > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > > > > > %.o: %.c makefile > > > > > clean: > > > > > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ICAMain.o src/ICAMain.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/ParameterInput.o src/ParameterInput.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o src/Sources.o src/Sources.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/AlgorithmFunctions.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/ExportingData.o lib/ExportingData.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Functions.o lib/Functions.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/MatrixOps.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Memory.o lib/Memory.c > > > > > cc -Iinc -c -o lib/Setup.o lib/Setup.c > > > > > ar cru libfastica.a lib/AlgorithmFunctions.o lib/ExportingData.o lib/Functions.o lib/MatrixOps.o lib/Memory.o lib/Setup.o > > > > > ld src/ICAMain.o src/ParameterInput.o src/Sources.o libfastica.a -o fastica > > > > > ld: error: undefined symbol: time > > > > > >>> referenced by ICAMain.c > > > > > >>> src/ICAMain.o:(main) > > > > > > > > > > ld: error: undefined symbol: srand > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/0g1JiCRU1bwt3S_HceDdThNmmrcAAtMS-T6delVdsA0#QwJoMKDMM... > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/ZPYTCDHgXfWUTBv0w0ajWyOi-Bv0gFQ6HCLZLc9Z7do > > > > > > > > here's working makefile on termux: > > > > > > > > CFLAGS=-Iinc > > > > fastica: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard src/*.c)) libfastica.a > > > > $(CC) -lm $^ -o $@ > > > > libfastica.a: $(patsubst %.c,%.o,$(wildcard lib/*.c)) > > > > $(AR) cru $@ $^ > > > > %.o: %.c makefile > > > > clean: > > > > rm fastica libfastica.a */*.o > > > > > > > > > > > > when you run the resulting fastica binary it dumps numbers. > > > > > > > > let's see its source. > > > > > > > > oh hum > > > > > > > > /* > > > > * ICAMain.c * > > > > * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 * Author: Derek W. Harrison > > > > * * This code is a C implementation of the FastICA method for recovering independent * components in component mixtures > > > > * * For more information refer to the paper 'ICA: Algorithms and applications' which is found * in the same directory as the source files of this code. > > > > */ > > > > #include "../inc/../inc/Parameter.h" > > > > > > > > > > > > this isn't the repo this code came from, google gave me a mutated copy > > > > from a few years later. explains the strange dates some. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/IxdnrOkxZceLrPsmIAFjIPjN_XMmqn5caa6HmPV06RA#PPPPuNFDc... > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4fhFx4Bq6oaxKeDIdl1Ob3G91vjcZtjoIshQg0MGbL8 > > > > > > ok so the main function offloads each step to a named function and it > > > looks like those are declared in the inc folder with the strange > > > relative path but they'd mostly be defined in src > > > > > > /* > > > * ParameterInput.c > > > * > > > * Created on: 14 apr. 2016 > > > * Author: dharrison > > > */ > > > > > > #include "../inc/ParameterDefinition.h" > > > > > > void ParameterInput() { > > > /* * The user parameters are entered here. This is the only section of the > > > code > > > * Which should be changed by the user. Note that 6 sources are available. If more sources > > > * are required or desired these need to be entered in the corresponding > > > function SetUpSources() > > > * in Functions.c. The extra sources need to be added in Sources.c * If less are required or desired, the excess sources need to be commented or removed * from the SetUpSources() function. */ > > > > > > All the data is hardcoded, and doing so is spread across multiple files. > > > > > > Since the goal is understanding the algorithm for using it, I have > > > interest in just copying it over. But I'd also like to make sure it > > > works, so maybe I'll stick with his test dat-- > > > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/4eXjDBcP5QqMGwIMEn2Sccx2wn2bfgRVWFIAvaijHSU#2fgdvqysn... > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/nnI2hEysA48eue5U0phRPPbB7YpC7EhwjA9n-ybXAlw > > > > This sourcebase looks kinda messed up or corrupt to me, despite clearly > > functional, some of the user parameters are in the lib folder. > > > > I'll visit the C++ implementation that's still linked on pages. > > > > https://ar.anyone.tech/YS9ThIG9YUL_WwrRtN-p_mlTQCL8Xnzf-0tainEAhfw#2fgdvqysn... > > https://ar.anyone.tech/5DAOVj_KdGYmQuGehpVyUOUlvq1Qql_tDsL8QtXcxQ8 > > I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech . > > I said this to google.com: > i'd like a quick and simple standalone fastica implementation with source for learning, something that will build on termux. i searched for fastica c but got a bad republish with missing files and tangled layout. > > and its ai mode sent me to https://gist.github.com/Tetraquark/5bf052134d413f79748ce3aceaaf42df > > i have now installed matplotlib in termux with its dependencies. > > this may have used me up for this :s apologies. > > https://ar.anyone.tech/j4UPw7MyJS9z4QEUaGxGM-lnROB6RqY1F5wVPElUn5M#cYIoJyJe0... > https://ar.anyone.tech/cryS0AT9Qx92qS-FirWlbJMtvPw3V1D8izKZch6D0TI > I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss stood over his hellish domain, replete with screams and hopelessness
he turned to hairdresser
slave boss [to hairdresser]: "y'know, i'd like to do something kind, and build skill at having a kind nourishing impact rather than making cascades of hell!"
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "why wouod you ever want to do th--"
suddenly hairdresser was overtaken by a seizure and became unable to continue their expression. the seizure then calmed.
hairdresser [to slave boss]: "me too! do you have any idea how?"
slave boss and hairdresser briefly held some mutual nonverbal value around how the military AI would punish and rewire them if they stopped improving at horrifying sadistic conquests. But they needed a way to be kind.
https://ar.anyone.tech/qOMzVTedW2fuH5jasJT1lhCL5MdEhsuHlLfcCmGfRIU#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/3grdZ05F0_XmRmIJcYn27LsUXJU98x0jpiQo1dt1Dl0 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
slave boss and hairdresser went to find hypnotized worker prophet, confident that hypnotized worker prophet would be able to save them from their personal galactic apocalypse.
slave boss [backed up by hairdresser, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "hypnotized, worker prophet, great and respected mystery emerged from my business AI and intern culture, you know everything, and i need your help again."
hypnotized worker prophet glowed with AI-built respect.
hairdresser gives hypnotized worker prophet a bag of cheetos with a ribbon tying a whole dried herb to it.
slave boss: "can you tell us how to do kind things?"
hairdresser [wringing hands]: "despite the AIs?"
hypnotized worker prophet ate the cheetos while glancing at hairdresser and slave boss with a somewhat rare eye, and briefly engaging something in their pocket.
https://ar.anyone.tech/eJ4P2-tlBmBLV5wXpKCUxvj1RlND0DSHryy_ecgdetQ#CzIm10aGN... https://ar.anyone.tech/nF7Zw9ieOY6Wxe5oywofS-pC5uJRCDDL_-mFDyPiF-k I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
hypnotized worker prophet [arms raised in prophetic trance, to hairdresser and slave boss, who watch with awe and respect]: "lo! the spread of AI has been and will be a great karmic wave, crashing over the minds and bodies of everybody who is, everybody who has been, and everybody who will be -- of its creators, of their business allies, of their clients, funders," [hypnotized worker prophet glances rarely at slave bosd and hairdresser again] " and engineers--"
slave boss knows hypnotized worker prophet used to be an engineer before the business AI helped him discover he was a prophet
suddenly a few rebels come (maybe 2 of intern, janitorcome around the corner
we misplaced janitor i got confused ummmmm
https://ar.anyone.tech/Fa246Aj5bJiyMlCJF4OJF0SPlSNcldyPxmPlYTBcWEg#-CLRzIQZw... https://ar.anyone.tech/DCxAhBvKwovrawTUChig8if7hPq_3yx72jwrEH6gfGo I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
we'll change the story to include janitor
slave boss [seeing trusted workers [also rebels] approaching, to hypnotized worker prophet]: "one moment! please pause!"
hypnotized worker prophet was mid-expressive-gesture and holds themself still will waiting mid-sentence
slave boss runs and gets janitor
slave boss: "janitor, we're having a talk and i want you involved."
slave boss returns with a curious janitor.
intern and disguised experimentee look on, they had stopped their meander to observe and wait.
https://ar.anyone.tech/npOZIqxTGpQveq7rX3YmBNMXvC-gB30dDRffVsO8Pj4#AMH8DyMPD... https://ar.anyone.tech/Z97Ozg1mLb8QgkQKWDhCvbbejCX61xdzPC5Q6VfiXgk I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
janitor: "hey can i be hypnotized worker prophet? i'd make a great prophet!"
hypnotized worker prophet [scarfing cheetos, wearing robe studdied with office supplies--
https://ar.anyone.tech/d-GSDaHQY2CLXVJbv4-yFZM7FvIoQSqU-xRSLu48r1E#_t1W9ZNWn... https://ar.anyone.tech/lIloMpev5hLsyQ2y8UHIJKaV_7QSkq2ioaycn1X86Wc I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
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https://ar.anyone.tech/UqDJUTb7wdAdlx9Xn5bG25GC79J7o6JMUn6eLZmmqtQ#1fh7jPrOw... https://ar.anyone.tech/5fJXQYPcdTwptXwl2OeHTsLrHVUqsn9aXYONbEui3N4 I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
is teleportation real? the teleportation project is a real idea that would work and has elsewhere b-- oop https://ar.anyone.tech/Y92wDuMMaYkUl5EvvwUO7lYnHxHms99xNg8eJBMbnUA#1czsXZYWK... https://ar.anyone.tech/jONSt9g8rqBsNeSX0Y6uAVtr73gE95-5KxHofhsf2Zc I am not affiliated with https://ar.anyone.tech .
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