On November 10, 2016 5:47:41 AM CST, John Newman wrote:

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On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:02 AM, grarpamp wrote:

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp wrote: Seems to be a first for any US election.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t...

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https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...

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This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc

Violence not a good solution.

Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)

Sometimes it's the solution.

John

It is never the solution when it is funded and organized by George Soros. -John

On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical nonsense:

Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)

Sometimes it's the solution.

John

Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the solution itself. Rr Ps. Violence did NOT end slavery anywhere in the US. Most Blacks are still Captive African Colonized People, and slaves. Their "labor" right now is to be unemployed and living in Gaza-like ghettos where the police kill and imprison them like fish in a tank, to keep unemployment numbers up, and wages for the rest of us in control.

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On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:02 AM, grarpamp wrote:

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp wrote: Seems to be a first for any US election. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...

This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc

Violence not a good solution. Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)

Sometimes it's the solution.

John

Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the solution itself. Rr Ps. Violence did NOT end slavery anywhere in the US. Most Blacks are still Captive African Colonized People, and slaves. Their "labor" right now is to be unemployed and living in Gaza-like ghettos where the police kill and imprison them like fish in a tank, to keep unemployment numbers up, and wages for the rest of us in control.

On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:19:21 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote:

Gene Sharp's description of the American Revolution provides an excellent example: In brief, Sharp contends that the war was largely a matter of the Crown attempting to take its colonies back over from their residents, who had negated most Crown authority through large scale non-cooperation and the development of parallel institutions rendering the Crown's administration obsolete.

Crass American Propaganda. There was no 'revolution', just a coup carried by the most corrupt 'aristocracy' aka oligarchy on the planet.

http://www.fragmentsweb.org/fourtx/dishist.pdf

So-called revolutions that start with gunfire, end in Fascist police states

Or they start as a slave society, like the US, and remain a slave society for half its history, like the US, and then become a global fascist empire, like the US.

- because they are not revolutions so much as coups that kick out the old bastards to make way for new, worse bastards. When they "succeed" that's normally due to backing by hostile foreign powers.

That would be france backing slave owners jefferson and washington I suppose =)

:o)

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From: grarpamp On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp wrote:

Seems to be a first for any US election.https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...

This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc

Violence not a good solution. These people are very misguided.  If anyone, they should be protesting Hillary Clinton, the DNC, John Podesta, her other aides and allies,and the various examples of corruption that have occurred.  Do they not realize that the election went the way it did not merely because of the email leaks, but more fundamentally because these corrupt people did things the way they did, and then they chose to talk about that in a medium that at one point they considered secure and safe.  Didn't turn out to be, huh? In, say, 2013, the average Hillary-supporter could have said that she was capable, competent, experienced, and honest, and not risk too much laughter from the rest of us.  By late 2016, everything had changed.  Do her supporters actually believe that the only problem is the exposure of her, rather than her underlying behavior?         Jim Bell

On 11/10/2016 12:34 PM, John Newman wrote:

I see no reason to celebrate Trump, just as I would see no reason to celebrate Hillary. Acting as if her corruption is anything special or particularly out of line is just a farce. Just like all of American politics.

It depends on whether one sees it as a chance to destroy the American two faction system of 'government'. I for one would like to know how many PISSED OFF AMERICANS didn't vote for him because they were in support of his ideas, but becaue they knew it would FUCK SHIT UP and MAYBE even turn some prog-libs (still watching the college crowd carefully here) into wild-eyed firebomb tossing radicals. One can ONLY hope. Rr

On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:46 AM, jim bell mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:

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*From:* grarpamp mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:

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Seems to be a first for any US election. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...

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This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc

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Violence not a good solution.

These people are very misguided. If anyone, they should be protesting Hillary Clinton, the DNC, John Podesta, her other aides and allies,and the various examples of corruption that have occurred. Do they not realize that the election went the way it did not merely because of the email leaks, but more fundamentally because these corrupt people did things the way they did, and then they chose to talk about that in a medium that at one point they considered secure and safe. Didn't turn out to be, huh?

In, say, 2013, the average Hillary-supporter could have said that she was capable, competent, experienced, and honest, and not risk too much laughter from the rest of us. By late 2016, everything had changed. Do her supporters actually believe that the only problem is the exposure of her, rather than her underlying behavior?

Does anyone actually believe Trump is anything but a bloviating gasbag who told the racist hordes in America what they wanted to hear? Does he even believe his own bullshit - does any politician?

I see no reason to celebrate Trump, just as I would see no reason to celebrate Hillary.

Acting as if her corruption is anything special or particularly out of line is just a farce. Just like all of American politics.

John

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Jim Bell

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:16:16PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56:01AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell wrote:

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"Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to change.

Speaking of chaos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+election+protests

Seems to be a first for any US election. Wonder who's behind it....

Couldn't be Soros - who would ever believe that?

Besides, nothing quite like "tolerant" leftists protesting violently ...

Ouch http://theduran.com/shocking-california-high-school-girl-is-brutally-beaten-...

Personal Statement on the Nature and Potential of #NotMyPresident Protests Good size anti-Trump protest just went by the cafe'. Large. Larger than the anti-Iraq War protests that happened here. Led by students. Not Prog-libs (who will undoubtedly try to grab organizational control to repressively desublimate the anger). MAYBE the feeling their student loans might vanish could drive them as hard as the feeling they were going to be drafted and sent to Vietnam did in the late 60s/early 70s. We'll see. I DO WANT TO NOTE that people should reject the notion that these protests are 'planned by Soros' as some sort of Oligarch driven 'color revolution'. The protests weren't planned. The ELECTION RESULTS that DRIVE the protests were rigged by them, and yeah, they KNEW that protests would happen, but that doesn't translate to meaning they have a speck of control of the results whatsoever. The rage IS righteous, and NOT misled. IF the protests maintain their focus on a rigged election bringing a Racist Fascist to power in the US, SOMETHING might "Break Bad" for the good. Rr Ps. [Image] On 11/11/2016 07:37 PM, grarpamp wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d9lm-T87AQ

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On 11/12/2016 05:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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I DO WANT TO NOTE that people should reject the notion that these protests are 'planned by Soros' as some sort of Oligarch driven 'color revolution'. "Obviously, no one is disputing the fact that there are millions of

On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 07:53:39PM -0800, Razer wrote: people unhappy with the election results."

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The protests weren't planned. Anti-Trump protests are paid and staged, Craigslist reveals http://theduran.com/anti-trump-protesters-paid-staged-craigslist-reveals/

There were tens of thousands of people on Wiltshire in LA today. Almost 100K Extras? So some ringer puts an ad on cragslist. That means exactly what? I really think you should butt out. YOU are absolutely unaware how many people in the US, almost every single POC, DESPISES Trump. The Secret Service is going to have a VERY hard time keeping him alive. You want the job? Rr

On 11/13/2016 02:40 AM, grarpamp wrote:

They can protest all they want, that's free speech. And the issues are generally relavant / valid. But they have no right legally or otherwise to be commiting acts of physical violence upon other humans or causing damage to others property. Doing that, and generally acting like assholes, will and has got them delegitimized by the people they're protesting against. Now it's mostly just warm fuzzies for themselves, their backers and their moderates. Many of these 'liberal' protests in their blue dominated city limits perhaps didn't vote and don't seem to be protest in red regions. And both Clinton or Obama haven't said anything to stop it. Bottom line, whatever their causes of the day are, they had four years to work them into a vote. And ever since the primaries to wage against any candidate too. Vote happened, and as it appear nothing about the vote / process has made it to any court lawsuit to date, they seem to have lost fair and square. 290 to 228 of the book, and only lead 0.49% of popular cast between them. You can't always get what you want. The presidency is one person take all, they know that. Did they invest their half in Congress, apparently not either. Another thing seems clear, both before and after election it wasn't the right being mass violent and disrespecting the law and the vote. Nor is it likely right would have if the right lost. Last, US has been moving progressivly forward on its own for decades, that's not changing, nor is punching people out and damaging shit likely to speed it up, at all. It would be different if left were a desperate 20% minority last ditch with no other options but death. The situation sucks, but there are likely other options all around. And they might already being adopted..

# Billionaire Soros linked to anti-Trump protests - WikiLeaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14zszKEKz-I

Which protest? Let's me extrapolate on that... George Soros orgs funds activities on US campuses including political activities. Usually neutered and benign political activities. So if the students protest Soros is responsible right? "Six degrees" is enough... for STUPID PEOPLE to believe shit like that. Same right wing trashtalk that the US governmment used to destroy the phlosophy department of universities in the US 'because they drove the anti-vietnam war movement' and in the process left students without the ability to critically analyze what they learn... The logic and rational thinking classes that replaced them, intended for technical students, was no substitute. Locally a Soros org funded an initiative to 'prioritize police activities' and it passed, and you know... He never fronted the money to sue the city when they absolute ignored the new rule and created a packed committee with less than quorum that never ever meets. That's the "power of Soros". Disruption, and no follow up. Wikileaks is a disruptor too. Exactly which protest or all you have is a rumor. I'd point out that Trump was elected because information we get is ALREADY STUPID-ED DOWN to the level of rumors = fact. And you know, my eyes just sort of glaze over whenever I see the "Soros Trope". It reminds me A LOT of the "Rothchild Jewish Banker Trope" so popular with illiterate antisemites and racists. Or the CIA distributed LSD and therefore created 'hippies', and other ignorant GENERALIZATIONS. Now THERE'S a good example of how much control the conspiracy creators you love to hate actually have over human events. Rr

On 11/13/2016 02:47 AM, grarpamp wrote:

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Razer wrote:

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Almost 100K almost every single POC Citations please.

Have a look. Tens of thousands. https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/797659982409760768 As far as whether POC hate him You really need to get out more often. Maybe someplace where it's not middleclass and white. Rr

Just saying because I've seen them.

But here's a true number, only 4.72% of cast were third party. That's sad.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM, grarpamp wrote:

Voting data seems to indicate from 65-88% haters holding

Typo, 56-88 on po'c' only, depending on source, statistics of which won't settle out into consensus till years from now anyways.

Those were 4 and 10 months prior. As said, it'll take a while before better more accurate picture emerges. Have fun.​

Doesn't matter, it's over. And the reengineering of all sides and would be entrants for two four six and eight years out has already started. Thrown your hats in, place your bets, and grab popcorn (or favorite sexy kitteh).

Wish you and the USA a good revolution, my dear Razer! :) I know you will think it's a too 'hippie' suggestion, but take flowers with you, not guns. Avoid violence and destruction, please. Police and Army never rejected flowers and art here and it made a great difference in some Brazilian protests. If you use a gun, they will use guns too. If you use flowers, they remember you are only a human being, expressing your personal convictions. :) In any case, take vinegar and clean cloths to use against tear gas. It does work and can make make a great difference when running away. Unhappily, tried it in person, ouch! :P Be careful with cel phones to protect your contacts, please. Buy a cheap model, a new chip, use crypto and nicks, if you decide to organize a protest, please. Aff, it's always pretty stressing to think about bad possibilities! :P Good luck and take care, OK ? I can kick your b@lls, not the police! :P PS: - Hillary is a corrupt monster too, ugh! Don't you have a better option disponible? :B