On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to change.
Speaking of chaos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+election+protests Seems to be a first for any US election. Wonder who's behind it....
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems to be a first for any US election.
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal... This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc Violence not a good solution.
On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:02 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote: Seems to be a first for any US election.
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...
This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc
Violence not a good solution.
Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =) Sometimes it's the solution. John
On November 10, 2016 5:47:41 AM CST, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:02 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote: Seems to be a first for any US election.
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t...
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...
This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc
Violence not a good solution.
Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)
Sometimes it's the solution.
John
It is never the solution when it is funded and organized by George Soros. -John
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Me <john@johnlgrubbs.net> wrote:
It is never the solution when it is funded and organized by George Soros.
You mean the same Soros this douchebag drops clues on starting at 00:02:50? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AcbcEOaqh0 '#GOPHandsOffMe" Even if filled with junk, this video is exemplary for lack physical violence... a fine ardent and healthy debate. Lol.
On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical nonsense:
Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)
Sometimes it's the solution.
John
Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the solution itself. Rr Ps. Violence did NOT end slavery anywhere in the US. Most Blacks are still Captive African Colonized People, and slaves. Their "labor" right now is to be unemployed and living in Gaza-like ghettos where the police kill and imprison them like fish in a tank, to keep unemployment numbers up, and wages for the rest of us in control.
On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:02 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote: Seems to be a first for any US election. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...
This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc
Violence not a good solution. Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)
Sometimes it's the solution.
John
Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the solution itself. Rr Ps. Violence did NOT end slavery anywhere in the US. Most Blacks are still Captive African Colonized People, and slaves. Their "labor" right now is to be unemployed and living in Gaza-like ghettos where the police kill and imprison them like fish in a tank, to keep unemployment numbers up, and wages for the rest of us in control.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2016 10:58 AM, Razer wrote:
On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical nonsense:
Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)
Sometimes it's the solution.
John
Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the solution itself.
Rr
Right you are: Everyone from Mao Tse Tung to the authors of current U.S. Army counter-insurgency manuals agrees, an armed uprising needs a /much/ larger network of committed non-combatant supporters to succeed. That network has to be built, and it has to offer its participants "real hope" of a better way of running things, before a shooting war can succeed. Gene Sharp's description of the American Revolution provides an excellent example: In brief, Sharp contends that the war was largely a matter of the Crown attempting to take its colonies back over from their residents, who had negated most Crown authority through large scale non-cooperation and the development of parallel institutions rendering the Crown's administration obsolete. http://www.fragmentsweb.org/fourtx/dishist.pdf So-called revolutions that start with gunfire, end in Fascist police states - because they are not revolutions so much as coups that kick out the old bastards to make way for new, worse bastards. When they "succeed" that's normally due to backing by hostile foreign powers. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJYJKwZAAoJEECU6c5XzmuqYDkH/3FNW4WYm0yt+3RumCtnMlIZ gtB0wd4j/X+4PzBhdgVj48lGdPzAA8/1iZYqjvwcJPMY4NcuImwXkJFhg1IIofRY AwR4bh3CoIyzgdVJNTcm32ieAOnD6jxGktMCtKVVZjIJtDPkqIdT8RFHHLbf+me/ U1K9xOyoXaWRqu8fv2cvFARjfakd09GFcCwLi/q4CfvnnMujpA2ED6GItmGCQLk1 4lymILJQB0Ic5NUIVrXIzkTo1UrEKf0BsrnLPLLfd1eOo31V4Ox1qRHXEll0uh9x nzMSQrctcBDuweCDMu1oPcxQHeldL1Z1gJMUVhHvFNjxmBMIIHyqzx9VUlihjXs= =E5Km -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:19:21 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
Gene Sharp's description of the American Revolution provides an excellent example: In brief, Sharp contends that the war was largely a matter of the Crown attempting to take its colonies back over from their residents, who had negated most Crown authority through large scale non-cooperation and the development of parallel institutions rendering the Crown's administration obsolete.
Crass American Propaganda. There was no 'revolution', just a coup carried by the most corrupt 'aristocracy' aka oligarchy on the planet.
http://www.fragmentsweb.org/fourtx/dishist.pdf
So-called revolutions that start with gunfire, end in Fascist police states
Or they start as a slave society, like the US, and remain a slave society for half its history, like the US, and then become a global fascist empire, like the US.
- because they are not revolutions so much as coups that kick out the old bastards to make way for new, worse bastards. When they "succeed" that's normally due to backing by hostile foreign powers.
That would be france backing slave owners jefferson and washington I suppose =)
:o)
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 6:47 AM, John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
Violence ended slavery in the South.
It primarily ended declared voluntary secession (triggered by threat of unpalatable legislation, from a contract that had no penalty on exit terms) and its subsequent process of expelling the thenforth foreign government from the South... of course ensuring continuing revenues and access to resources, production, infrastructure, sheeple, etc at cost. By that time ending slavery came for the ride as required moral bonus were they to retain the South (along with all the other issues), and as strategic move to destabilize related slave trade value to the South, and raise internal question / revolt in the South, during the war. Something like that. Similarly, if California declares secession nullifying the former federal presence, it won't be to end gay sex, abortion, and weed that the East goes to war over... though for some select demographics in the East that might be a wished for bonus. Of course the East might skip that bloody battle knowing that it has a Trump up its sleeve who will negotiate the best trade deals favoring the East with its new Western trade partner.
Violence created the so called "land of the free" =)
Sad. Apparently there's some new free land and resources being created in Syria by a few outside competitors. Only a few uncooperative Indians there, but they don't have any rights in competitors system so it's ok right.
Sometimes it's the solution.
These 'protesters' have plenty of non violent options left. Instead of thuggery upon those who have not laid fist to them first (which only spawns mass turnout against them) they should be out organizing a political response of their own. Such as how they're going to vote, censure, recall, impeach or otherwise get Trump out if he really starts fucking things up.
From: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems to be a first for any US election.https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...
This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc
Violence not a good solution. These people are very misguided. If anyone, they should be protesting Hillary Clinton, the DNC, John Podesta, her other aides and allies,and the various examples of corruption that have occurred. Do they not realize that the election went the way it did not merely because of the email leaks, but more fundamentally because these corrupt people did things the way they did, and then they chose to talk about that in a medium that at one point they considered secure and safe. Didn't turn out to be, huh? In, say, 2013, the average Hillary-supporter could have said that she was capable, competent, experienced, and honest, and not risk too much laughter from the rest of us. By late 2016, everything had changed. Do her supporters actually believe that the only problem is the exposure of her, rather than her underlying behavior? Jim Bell
On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:46 AM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems to be a first for any US election. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...
This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc
Violence not a good solution.
These people are very misguided. If anyone, they should be protesting Hillary Clinton, the DNC, John Podesta, her other aides and allies,and the various examples of corruption that have occurred. Do they not realize that the election went the way it did not merely because of the email leaks, but more fundamentally because these corrupt people did things the way they did, and then they chose to talk about that in a medium that at one point they considered secure and safe. Didn't turn out to be, huh?
In, say, 2013, the average Hillary-supporter could have said that she was capable, competent, experienced, and honest, and not risk too much laughter from the rest of us. By late 2016, everything had changed. Do her supporters actually believe that the only problem is the exposure of her, rather than her underlying behavior?
Does anyone actually believe Trump is anything but a bloviating gasbag who told the racist hordes in America what they wanted to hear? Does he even believe his own bullshit - does any politician? I see no reason to celebrate Trump, just as I would see no reason to celebrate Hillary. Acting as if her corruption is anything special or particularly out of line is just a farce. Just like all of American politics. John
Jim Bell
On 11/10/2016 12:34 PM, John Newman wrote:
I see no reason to celebrate Trump, just as I would see no reason to celebrate Hillary. Acting as if her corruption is anything special or particularly out of line is just a farce. Just like all of American politics.
It depends on whether one sees it as a chance to destroy the American two faction system of 'government'. I for one would like to know how many PISSED OFF AMERICANS didn't vote for him because they were in support of his ideas, but becaue they knew it would FUCK SHIT UP and MAYBE even turn some prog-libs (still watching the college crowd carefully here) into wild-eyed firebomb tossing radicals. One can ONLY hope. Rr
On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:46 AM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com <mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com>> wrote:
*From:* grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com <mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com <mailto:grarpamp@gmail.com>> wrote:
Seems to be a first for any US election. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_t... https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donal...
This compilation from before election... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMux_UHmpvc
Violence not a good solution.
These people are very misguided. If anyone, they should be protesting Hillary Clinton, the DNC, John Podesta, her other aides and allies,and the various examples of corruption that have occurred. Do they not realize that the election went the way it did not merely because of the email leaks, but more fundamentally because these corrupt people did things the way they did, and then they chose to talk about that in a medium that at one point they considered secure and safe. Didn't turn out to be, huh?
In, say, 2013, the average Hillary-supporter could have said that she was capable, competent, experienced, and honest, and not risk too much laughter from the rest of us. By late 2016, everything had changed. Do her supporters actually believe that the only problem is the exposure of her, rather than her underlying behavior?
Does anyone actually believe Trump is anything but a bloviating gasbag who told the racist hordes in America what they wanted to hear? Does he even believe his own bullshit - does any politician?
I see no reason to celebrate Trump, just as I would see no reason to celebrate Hillary.
Acting as if her corruption is anything special or particularly out of line is just a farce. Just like all of American politics.
John
Jim Bell
On 11/09/2016 09:56 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to change. Speaking of chaos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+election+protests
Seems to be a first for any US election. Wonder who's behind it....
There were BIG protests when Nixon was inaugurated, and in '72 there was a counter-inauguration and riot in DC. Not so much since then... Here's something I wrote this morning to a person who attended a protest here... Just a couple of observations of the many I made that informed me we are Fuck-Ed in more ways than can be imagined: "I'm sorry you participated in the system of your oppression and didn't get the oppressor you wanted. (I'm going to boilerplate that. It'll save A LOT of typing today) I heard someone speaking say "Don't mourn, Organize". Listen... Joe Hill would have spit on Hillary Clinton, and Bernie? Hill would have boxed him down for even using the word "Socialist" in relation to himself. The woman who said her family was from Syria spoke PERFECT English as she cried over her uncle who has to use a cane because of some unstated war related event. How did THAT happen? Hillary's State Department happened, and hired the Libyan goatfuckers to create a war in he uncle's country, while Bernie's baby, the F-35, is having it's wings made by Syria's enemy Israel... Israel is also one of the prime buyers for the F-35, that's undoubtedly going to cause a lot more Syrians to need canes, and body bags. The lack of critical analysis by the people involved in the march was astounding, and depressing. Sickening really." Rr Ps Someone jested on twitter that Hillary supporters were buying assault rifles canned food and gold en masse, and the 'protest' (really a mutual grieving session) DID look a lot like a trump rally, Absolutely. Apocalypse Trump, The Stimulator @Submedia-tv: https://submedia.tv/stimulator/2016/04/05/apocalypse-trump/
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56:01AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to change.
Speaking of chaos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+election+protests
Seems to be a first for any US election. Wonder who's behind it....
Couldn't be Soros - who would ever believe that? Besides, nothing quite like "tolerant" leftists protesting violently ...
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:16:16PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56:01AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to change.
Speaking of chaos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+election+protests
Seems to be a first for any US election. Wonder who's behind it....
Couldn't be Soros - who would ever believe that?
Besides, nothing quite like "tolerant" leftists protesting violently ...
http://theduran.com/george-soros-begins-color-revolution-america-moveon-acti... http://theduran.com/obamas-silence-undermines-law-order-democracy/ ( http://theduran.com/activitsts-on-twitter-and-reddit-are-asking-donald-trump... https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-pardon-julian-assange http://theduran.com/personal-letter-donald-j-trump/ http://theduran.com/amy-schumer-calls-trump-voters-weak-and-misinformed-but-... http://theduran.com/5-countries-hillary-clinton-supporters-should-move-to/ http://theduran.com/russia-america-globalist-commentariat-disgusting-defeat/ http://theduran.com/autonomous-clinton-oblast-refuge-trumpland/ http://www.westernjournalism.com/wikileaks-bombshell-clinton-camp-may-have-t... )
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:16:16PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56:01AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in which there is very low resistance to change.
Speaking of chaos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+election+protests
Seems to be a first for any US election. Wonder who's behind it....
Couldn't be Soros - who would ever believe that?
Besides, nothing quite like "tolerant" leftists protesting violently ...
Ouch http://theduran.com/shocking-california-high-school-girl-is-brutally-beaten-...
Personal Statement on the Nature and Potential of #NotMyPresident Protests Good size anti-Trump protest just went by the cafe'. Large. Larger than the anti-Iraq War protests that happened here. Led by students. Not Prog-libs (who will undoubtedly try to grab organizational control to repressively desublimate the anger). MAYBE the feeling their student loans might vanish could drive them as hard as the feeling they were going to be drafted and sent to Vietnam did in the late 60s/early 70s. We'll see. I DO WANT TO NOTE that people should reject the notion that these protests are 'planned by Soros' as some sort of Oligarch driven 'color revolution'. The protests weren't planned. The ELECTION RESULTS that DRIVE the protests were rigged by them, and yeah, they KNEW that protests would happen, but that doesn't translate to meaning they have a speck of control of the results whatsoever. The rage IS righteous, and NOT misled. IF the protests maintain their focus on a rigged election bringing a Racist Fascist to power in the US, SOMETHING might "Break Bad" for the good. Rr Ps. [Image] On 11/11/2016 07:37 PM, grarpamp wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d9lm-T87AQ
+111
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 07:53:39PM -0800, Razer wrote:
I DO WANT TO NOTE that people should reject the notion that these protests are 'planned by Soros' as some sort of Oligarch driven 'color revolution'.
"Obviously, no one is disputing the fact that there are millions of people unhappy with the election results."
The protests weren't planned.
Anti-Trump protests are paid and staged, Craigslist reveals http://theduran.com/anti-trump-protesters-paid-staged-craigslist-reveals/
On 11/12/2016 05:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
I DO WANT TO NOTE that people should reject the notion that these protests are 'planned by Soros' as some sort of Oligarch driven 'color revolution'. "Obviously, no one is disputing the fact that there are millions of
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 07:53:39PM -0800, Razer wrote: people unhappy with the election results."
The protests weren't planned. Anti-Trump protests are paid and staged, Craigslist reveals http://theduran.com/anti-trump-protesters-paid-staged-craigslist-reveals/
There were tens of thousands of people on Wiltshire in LA today. Almost 100K Extras? So some ringer puts an ad on cragslist. That means exactly what? I really think you should butt out. YOU are absolutely unaware how many people in the US, almost every single POC, DESPISES Trump. The Secret Service is going to have a VERY hard time keeping him alive. You want the job? Rr
They can protest all they want, that's free speech. And the issues are generally relavant / valid. But they have no right legally or otherwise to be commiting acts of physical violence upon other humans or causing damage to others property. Doing that, and generally acting like assholes, will and has got them delegitimized by the people they're protesting against. Now it's mostly just warm fuzzies for themselves, their backers and their moderates. Many of these 'liberal' protests in their blue dominated city limits perhaps didn't vote and don't seem to be protest in red regions. And both Clinton or Obama haven't said anything to stop it. Bottom line, whatever their causes of the day are, they had four years to work them into a vote. And ever since the primaries to wage against any candidate too. Vote happened, and as it appear nothing about the vote / process has made it to any court lawsuit to date, they seem to have lost fair and square. 290 to 228 of the book, and only lead 0.49% of popular cast between them. You can't always get what you want. The presidency is one person take all, they know that. Did they invest their half in Congress, apparently not either. Another thing seems clear, both before and after election it wasn't the right being mass violent and disrespecting the law and the vote. Nor is it likely right would have if the right lost. Last, US has been moving progressivly forward on its own for decades, that's not changing, nor is punching people out and damaging shit likely to speed it up, at all. It would be different if left were a desperate 20% minority last ditch with no other options but death. The situation sucks, but there are likely other options all around. And they might already being adopted.. # Billionaire Soros linked to anti-Trump protests - WikiLeaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14zszKEKz-I
On 11/13/2016 02:40 AM, grarpamp wrote:
They can protest all they want, that's free speech. And the issues are generally relavant / valid. But they have no right legally or otherwise to be commiting acts of physical violence upon other humans or causing damage to others property. Doing that, and generally acting like assholes, will and has got them delegitimized by the people they're protesting against. Now it's mostly just warm fuzzies for themselves, their backers and their moderates. Many of these 'liberal' protests in their blue dominated city limits perhaps didn't vote and don't seem to be protest in red regions. And both Clinton or Obama haven't said anything to stop it. Bottom line, whatever their causes of the day are, they had four years to work them into a vote. And ever since the primaries to wage against any candidate too. Vote happened, and as it appear nothing about the vote / process has made it to any court lawsuit to date, they seem to have lost fair and square. 290 to 228 of the book, and only lead 0.49% of popular cast between them. You can't always get what you want. The presidency is one person take all, they know that. Did they invest their half in Congress, apparently not either. Another thing seems clear, both before and after election it wasn't the right being mass violent and disrespecting the law and the vote. Nor is it likely right would have if the right lost. Last, US has been moving progressivly forward on its own for decades, that's not changing, nor is punching people out and damaging shit likely to speed it up, at all. It would be different if left were a desperate 20% minority last ditch with no other options but death. The situation sucks, but there are likely other options all around. And they might already being adopted..
# Billionaire Soros linked to anti-Trump protests - WikiLeaks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14zszKEKz-I
Which protest? Let's me extrapolate on that... George Soros orgs funds activities on US campuses including political activities. Usually neutered and benign political activities. So if the students protest Soros is responsible right? "Six degrees" is enough... for STUPID PEOPLE to believe shit like that. Same right wing trashtalk that the US governmment used to destroy the phlosophy department of universities in the US 'because they drove the anti-vietnam war movement' and in the process left students without the ability to critically analyze what they learn... The logic and rational thinking classes that replaced them, intended for technical students, was no substitute. Locally a Soros org funded an initiative to 'prioritize police activities' and it passed, and you know... He never fronted the money to sue the city when they absolute ignored the new rule and created a packed committee with less than quorum that never ever meets. That's the "power of Soros". Disruption, and no follow up. Wikileaks is a disruptor too. Exactly which protest or all you have is a rumor. I'd point out that Trump was elected because information we get is ALREADY STUPID-ED DOWN to the level of rumors = fact. And you know, my eyes just sort of glaze over whenever I see the "Soros Trope". It reminds me A LOT of the "Rothchild Jewish Banker Trope" so popular with illiterate antisemites and racists. Or the CIA distributed LSD and therefore created 'hippies', and other ignorant GENERALIZATIONS. Now THERE'S a good example of how much control the conspiracy creators you love to hate actually have over human events. Rr
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Almost 100K almost every single POC
Citations please. Just saying because I've seen them. But here's a true number, only 4.72% of cast were third party. That's sad.
On 11/13/2016 02:47 AM, grarpamp wrote:
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Almost 100K almost every single POC Citations please.
Have a look. Tens of thousands. https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/797659982409760768 As far as whether POC hate him You really need to get out more often. Maybe someplace where it's not middleclass and white. Rr
Just saying because I've seen them.
But here's a true number, only 4.72% of cast were third party. That's sad.
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Have a look. Tens of thousands. https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/797659982409760768
10 is not 100.
almost every single POC As far as whether POC hate him
Citation your implied numerical ratio of haters vs lovers was requested, not the degree to which any such haters hate him. Voting data seems to indicate from 65-88% haters holding a degree from 0<hate<=100 sufficient to vote as such, far from 'every single'.
where it's not middleclass and white.
Like within big blue city limits full of poc marchers? Or out in the red sticks full of non poc? It's about the popcorn, others can debate and figure whatever Soros or anyone else is up to on whatever side. Since no side presents an ideal package, and most sides seem far from one with their stupid politically engineered dividing line antipodal platforms, I could care less. Regarding popcorn, remember, not all popular votes are in, and there's still electoral fun and games to be played in December. https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html It's still better everyone on all side quit being physical against other humans and property and generally chill the fuck out.
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
Voting data seems to indicate from 65-88% haters holding
Typo, 56-88 on po'c' only, depending on source, statistics of which won't settle out into consensus till years from now anyways.
On 11/13/2016 01:51 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Have a look. Tens of thousands. https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/797659982409760768 10 is not 100.
almost every single POC As far as whether POC hate him Citation your implied numerical ratio of haters vs lovers
In the POC population? ROTF! July: poll suggests that only 6 percent of black voters nationally plan to support Donald Trump. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/13/new-polls-in-penns... More: http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/trump-and-the-black-vote/ Beyond that do your own research.
was requested, not the degree to which any such haters hate him. Voting data seems to indicate from 65-88% haters holding a degree from 0<hate<=100 sufficient to vote as such, far from 'every single'.
where it's not middleclass and white. Like within big blue city limits full of poc marchers? Or out in the red sticks full of non poc?
Where I live it's got both. There's hipsters AND rednecks round these heah parts... Where most people in the US live there are both. Further, most of the truly rural areas in America are populated by immigrants, legal or not, working in the fields or some Armour meat packing plant in bumfuck getting spattered with bone meal gristle and blood. Trump WILL give that job to an American. Too bad he won't find ONE to take it . Driscoll Strawberry mentioned below is classic. They and the California Strawberry Association ran a PR campaign to get young white Californians into the fields. The ag law in Cali is 12 hours a day sunrise to sunset until the harvest is done. No one applied. Then there are Exburbs... Where the more affluent live. Sometimes they only go to the office once a week, or month. They like Trump. They're cutthroat scam artists like him too. Managers that made director and shit like that. Then there are some places that look like farms but they really aren't. The number of true family farms, as opposed to Family as in name, like Driscoll Strawberry in California with millions of acres snd is really quite corporate, approaches near zero in the US. Or like the 'The Bundys' who are "Welfare Ranchers" The keep cattle because the government pretty much pays for it. But their business? Truck repair. "Rural America" as the media depicts it is a myth IOW. I've been there. They all live on disability and welfare and when the check comes at the beginning of the month they get their tattoos worked on. If they run short of money they just whip up a sink full of meth. Then there's the nutjobs.. Like polygamous Mormons who keep harems of women they only fuck when "god" commands. Rr
It's about the popcorn, others can debate and figure whatever Soros or anyone else is up to on whatever side.
Since no side presents an ideal package, and most sides seem far from one with their stupid politically engineered dividing line antipodal platforms, I could care less.
Here's my side: They can both go fuck (or unfuck) themselves [Image]
Regarding popcorn, remember, not all popular votes are in, and there's still electoral fun and games to be played in December.
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html
It's still better everyone on all side quit being physical against other humans and property and generally chill the fuck out.
Those were 4 and 10 months prior. As said, it'll take a while before better more accurate picture emerges. Have fun.
On 11/13/2016 04:47 AM, grarpamp wrote:
But here's a true number, only 4.72% of cast were third party. That's sad. What's sad is that Bernie wasn't a realistic choice thanks to the idiot shenanigans of the Democratic party. Bernie would have freaking slayed it against Trump and wouldn't have had anywhere near the problems that Hillary had.
Doesn't matter, it's over. And the reengineering of all sides and would be entrants for two four six and eight years out has already started. Thrown your hats in, place your bets, and grab popcorn (or favorite sexy kitteh).
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:19:22AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
Doesn't matter, it's over. And the reengineering of all sides and would be entrants for two four six and eight years out has already started. Thrown your hats in, place your bets, and grab popcorn (or favorite sexy kitteh).
Wish you and the USA a good revolution, my dear Razer! :) I know you will think it's a too 'hippie' suggestion, but take flowers with you, not guns. Avoid violence and destruction, please. Police and Army never rejected flowers and art here and it made a great difference in some Brazilian protests. If you use a gun, they will use guns too. If you use flowers, they remember you are only a human being, expressing your personal convictions. :) In any case, take vinegar and clean cloths to use against tear gas. It does work and can make make a great difference when running away. Unhappily, tried it in person, ouch! :P Be careful with cel phones to protect your contacts, please. Buy a cheap model, a new chip, use crypto and nicks, if you decide to organize a protest, please. Aff, it's always pretty stressing to think about bad possibilities! :P Good luck and take care, OK ? I can kick your b@lls, not the police! :P PS: - Hillary is a corrupt monster too, ugh! Don't you have a better option disponible? :B
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