Hi, I'm 16 years old and I was searching in duckduckgo and Google for some material about cypherpunks but I not find nothing more than this mailing list and some deserted website. If someone can give me some more information, I would be very grateful. Sorry for my bad English and for the spam.
Search for the writings of Tim May. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM, stakewinner00 <stakewinner00@lavabit.com>wrote:
Hi, I'm 16 years old and I was searching in duckduckgo and Google for some material about cypherpunks but I not find nothing more than this mailing list and some deserted website.
If someone can give me some more information, I would be very grateful.
Sorry for my bad English and for the spam.
-- Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet. -- Arnaud-Amaury, 1209
http://cypherpunks.io I'm hoping to collect a good collection of cypherpunks material in time. Suggestions are appreciated. --SiNA On Jul 30, 2013 4:23 PM, "Steve Furlong" <demonfighter@gmail.com> wrote:
Search for the writings of Tim May.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM, stakewinner00 <stakewinner00@lavabit.com>wrote:
Hi, I'm 16 years old and I was searching in duckduckgo and Google for some material about cypherpunks but I not find nothing more than this mailing list and some deserted website.
If someone can give me some more information, I would be very grateful.
Sorry for my bad English and for the spam.
-- Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet. -- Arnaud-Amaury, 1209
On 07/30/2013 03:47 PM, stakewinner00 wrote:
Hi, I'm 16 years old and I was searching in duckduckgo and Google for some material about cypherpunks but I not find nothing more than this mailing list and some deserted website.
If someone can give me some more information, I would be very grateful.
Sorry for my bad English and for the spam.
Have you read "Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet" yet? Helpful for getting a good chunk of the contemporary and historical context. -- http://twitter.com/maximus_freeman 260D 9167 F8D9 3913 3564 E571 7D96 4D33 6114 2ACF
On 31.07.2013 01:56, Max R.D. Parmer wrote:
Have you read "Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet" yet? Helpful for getting a good chunk of the contemporary and historical context.
You might also like: Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias Peter Ludloff http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0262621517 What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry John Markoff http://www.amazon.com/What-Dormouse-Said-Counterculture-Personal/dp/01430367... Some random reading list on the broader spectrum: * Scott Adams: Dilbert * Mitch Albom: Tuesdays with Morrie * Saul Alinsky: Rules for Radicals * Günther Andreas: Die molussische Katakombe (1933), Die Antiquiertheit des Menschen * Charles Babbage: On the Mental Division of Labour * Jasper Becker: Hungry Ghosts * Frederico Biancuzzi, Shane Warden: Masterminds of Programming (2009) * Jorge Luís Borges: Any short story collection you want * John Brunner: The Shockwave Rider (1975) * Mikhail Bulgakov: The Master and Margarita * Anthony Burgess * Vanevar Bush: "As We May Think" * Italo Calvino: Invisible Cities, Cosmicomics, Marcovaldo * E.R. Carmin: Das schwarze Reich (2002) * C. J. Cherryh: Cyteen * Arthur C. Clark: A Meeting With Medusa (1972) * Anton Chekhov: "The Lady With the Little Dog" * The Dark Mountain Project: Dark Mountain Volume 2 (2011) * Guy Debord: Society of the Spectacle * Frederick Douglass: Collected Autobiographies * Umberto Eco: Foucault's Pendulum * Warren Ellis: Transmetropolitan * Ralph Ellison: Invisible Man * Georgina Ferry: A Computer called LEO (2004) * Jasper Fforde: Shades of Gray * Illiad Frazer: User Friendly * Neil Gaiman: Sandman * Garner: A Dictionary of Modern English Usage * Emma Goldman: Anarchism and Other Essays, My Disillusionment in Russia * Gandhi: Autobiography * Gene Sharp * William Gibson * Hackerbibel 1+2 * Robert Heinlein: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress * Douglas R. Hofstadter: Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid (1999) * Andrew Hunt: The Pragmatic Programmer (1999) * Orlando Figes: A People's Tragedy * Sho Fumimura and Ryoichi Ikegami: Sanctuary * Erich Jantsch: The self-organising Universe (1979) * Robert Jungk * David Kahn: "The Codebreakers" * Paul Lafargue: Das Recht auf Faulheit. Widerlegung des Rechtes auf Arbeit. (1883) * Steven Levy: Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution * David Lewis: Counterfactuals (2001) * Johnny Long: Stealing the Network (2009) * Peter Ludlow: Crypto Anarchy, Cyberstates, and Pirate Utopias (2001) * Ernest Mandell * John Markoff: What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry (2006) * Werner Mayer-Eppler: Grundlagen und Anwendungen der Informationstheorie (1959) * Mandela: The Long Walk To Freedom (Autobiography) * Mondo 2000 - A User's Guide to the New Edge (1992) * [[http://monochrom.at/mono/|monochrom print]] * Jenna Moran: Hitherby Dragons (online only; a book is coming out soon) * Grant Morrison: The Invisibles * Günter Myrell: Daten-Schatten * Theodor Nelson: Computer Lib/Dream Machines (1974) * Tsugumi Ohba and Takeshi Obata: Death Note * Manfred Osten: Das geraubte Gedächtnis (2004) * P.M.: Bolo Bolo (1983), Subcoma (2000) * [[http://www.gruenekraft.com/|Werner Pieper and the Grüne Kraft]] * Milorad Pavić: Dictionary of the Khazars * Victor Pelevin: The Yellow Arrow, The Helmet of Horror, anything you can find in English (or Russian, if you can read that) * Tim Powers: Last Call * Thomas Pynchon: The Crying of Lot 49 * Bertrand Russell: In Praise of Idleness (1935) * Mark Russinovich: Windows Internals, Zero Day * Melissa Scott: Trouble and her Friends (or anything else, really) * Vikram Seth: The Golden Gate * Carla Speed McNeil: Finder * Oswald Spengler: Untergang des Abendlandes * Karl Steinbruch: Falsch programmiert. Über das Versagen unserer Gesellschaft... (1968) * Neal Stephenson * Daniel Suarez: Daemon, Freedom * Andrew S. Tanenbaum * Thoreau: Civil Disobedience * Tad Tuleja: The Catalog of Lost Books * Sherry Turkle: The Second Self * Vernor Vinge: "True Names", "A Deepness in the Sky", "A Fire Upon the Deep" * Norbert Wiener: Cybernetics or Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine (1948) * Theodore J. Kaczynski * David Foster Wallace: Infinite Jest * Bill Watterson: Calvin & Hobbes * Donald Westlake: Under an English Heaven * Robert Anton Wilson: The Illuminatus * Tom Wolfe: The Electronic Cool-Aid Acid Test (1968) * Malaclypse The Younger: Principia Discordia: Or "How I Found Goddess, and What I Did to Her When I Found Her" (1965-1991)
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Likely related to Snowden: http://boingboing.net/2013/07/12/so-apparently-edward-snowden.html On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Trigger Happy <triggerhappy@openmail.cc> wrote:
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what I saw today lavabit.com
My Fellow Users,
I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.
What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.
This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.
Sincerely, Ladar Levison Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
- -- Trigger Happy jabber: triggerhappy@jabber.ccc.de otr: 85e6d794bbf77f6defd7e6648a6e48ebba6f0ffd
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-- @kylemaxwell
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Kyle Maxwell <kylem@xwell.org> wrote:
...by top posting.
http://boingboing.net/2013/07/12/so-apparently-edward-snowden.html
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Trigger Happy <triggerhappy@openmail.cc> wrote:
what I saw today lavabit.com
quote: lavabit.com
I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks
Hushmail is certainly under the same pressure for the same reason.
in crimes against the American people
In addition to the above singular news reference, this plurality seems to perhaps imply a further prism/verizon like all-data situation as well. Not an unexpected thing these days.
the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. I have twice made the appropriate requests.
What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.
The US first amendment... it's time more people started exercising it. Excepting order of precedence as it may apply to the risk averse, the permission of appeal, against that which would (or should, if that is your politic) be struck down, isn't required to do so. Links: http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/first_amendment http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt1toc_user.html https://encrypted.google.com/?q="ladar+levison"
_strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.
Remove the ability of services to see the data and this legacy problem of entrusting cleartext goes away. Maybe at that point everything becomes just node services for hidden applications. Mail is a big one. Maintaining interoperation while integrating client side encryption is a nice goal but fails to hide the @talkers. Whoever comes up with a fully anonymous, encrypted, defined-persistance p2p strong replacement that people actually use will get a lot of credit. Recent news has opened people up such that a good window of adoption opportunity will exist for a while. Same for storage/block services using an open client side encryption API. There's still plenty of room, need, and reason for people to make stands with traditional mail services too.
There's still plenty of room, need, and reason for people to make stands with traditional mail services too.
On lavabit.com: Defending the constitution is expensive! Help us by donating to the Lavabit Legal Defense Fund here. https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7BCR4A5W9PNN4
At 07:56 PM 7/30/2013, Max R.D. Parmer wrote:
On 07/30/2013 03:47 PM, stakewinner00 wrote:
Hi, I'm 16 years old and I was searching in duckduckgo and Google for some material about cypherpunks but I not find nothing more than this mailing list and some deserted website.
If someone can give me some more information, I would be very grateful.
Sorry for my bad English and for the spam.
Have you read "Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet" yet? Helpful for getting a good chunk of the contemporary and historical context.
Also Cyphernomicon, by Timmmmaaayyyyyy!!!!!!11ONE before he put a figurative barrel to his head and became a full-bore racist troll.
stakewinner00 <stakewinner00@lavabit.com> wrote:
Hi, I'm 16 years old and I was searching in duckduckgo and Google for some material about cypherpunks ...
If someone can give me some more information, I would be very grateful.
One reference is: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Cypherpunk Wikipedia, largely copied from the above: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk Links in those articles will give you more.
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