[UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule

Wed Mar 24 08:57:14 CDT 2010

Hi Chen,

I didn't know about this presentation. But, in fact, I was also in 
favour of a 2.0 version that included as many thing as possible instead 
of going through a series of intermediate release that each add some 
specific things. Of course we should try to do it in a way that we are 
not overwhelmed by too many things but at least to produce something 
that is quite general in a reasonable amount of time.

As it was also pointed out we should be careful and try to avoid 
attributes that can be used in different ways in different condition so

Andrea

On 03/23/2010 05:11 PM, Xiaoyu Chen wrote:
> Hello John:
>
>        It's a good idea to have a UR 2.0 specification, but I won't recommend a separate storage usage record. In OGF 21, Donal and I came up with a long-term roadmap for UR 2.0 (as attached). How about come up with some storage metrics rather than another usage record template for storage. I will try to squeeze sometime for the UR core schema, which abstract common template for different types of usage records, computing, storage, service, etc.
>
>        PS: I've moved to university of Southampton (email: xc2 at ecs.soton.ac.uk) and got a project deadline in May. But I will try my best to input something. I also asked for replacement of my chairship.
>
>
>
>                  Best Regards!
>
> X. Chen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org on behalf of john.gordon at stfc.ac.uk
> Sent: Tue 23/03/2010 15:42
> To: andrea.cristofori at cnaf.infn.it; ur-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
>
> Andrea, at OGF28 someone suggested that we had a choice of either
> fitting the storage record into the existing UR or defining a new
> standard.  I do not think that this is the case. The existing UR
> UsageRecord element has a UsageRecordType type of which JobUsageRecord
> is a defined type. I think we need to define a new type
> StorageUsageRecord which can contain some of the existing Global
> attributes defined for the JobUsageRecord.
>
> We could also define a FileUsageRecord to cover the case you were
> defining Andrea.
>
> John
>
>    
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf
>>      
> Of
>    
>> Andrea Cristofori
>> Sent: 23 March 2010 14:49
>> To: ur-wg at ogf.org
>> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> While waiting for the minute I'll suggest we can already start to
>> discuss one basic topic that came up during the meeting before we move
>> to more specific things.
>>
>> - Since the beginning I was thinking just to add new properties to the
>> existing UR definition. This would allow to choose those that are
>> needed
>> in each situation and reuse those that are common. In case of new
>> versions of the UR definition if we update a property then is not
>> needed
>> to update all the definition if this is common. Not all of us agreed
>> with that and it was proposed to create a different usage record for
>> the
>> Storage.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> - What would you prefer to do in case we discuss other property not
>> directly connected with storage accounting? Should we include
>> everything
>> in the discussion now or concentrate only on this topic and try to
>> finalize an update before moving to other things?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/18/2010 05:19 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>      
>>> P.S.: here is the link
>>>
>>> http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?id=2029
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/18/2010 05:15 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I have uploaded the slide I presented in Munich last Monday. As
>>>>          
> soon
>    
>> as
>>      
>>>> we check the minute of the discussion I will upload the file, we
>>>>          
> can
>    
>>>> continue the discussion and decide how to proceed.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2010 04:40 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a session scheduled for Monday, March 15 from 4:00 pm to
>>>>>            
>> 5:30 pm
>>      
>>>>> Location: HGB-A 016.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda:
>>>>> - UR for Storage Accounting discussion
>>>>> - AUR discussion
>>>>> - AOB
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to add or change something on the agenda please let me
>>>>>            
>> know.
>>      
>>>>> I'm plannig to prepare some slide to show to the people present
>>>>>            
>> there
>>      
>>>>> that can be a starting point for the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>
>>>        
>>
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