[UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule

Jules Wolfrat wolfrat at sara.nl
Tue Mar 23 10:53:17 CDT 2010


Dear Andrea,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On
> Behalf Of Andrea Cristofori
> Sent: 23 March 2010 15:49
> To: ur-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> While waiting for the minute I'll suggest we can already start to
> discuss one basic topic that came up during the meeting before we
> move
> to more specific things.
> 
> - Since the beginning I was thinking just to add new properties to
> the
> existing UR definition. This would allow to choose those that are
> needed
> in each situation and reuse those that are common. In case of new
> versions of the UR definition if we update a property then is not
> needed
> to update all the definition if this is common. Not all of us
> agreed
> with that and it was proposed to create a different usage record
> for the
> Storage.
> What do you think?
I think it is indeed a good idea to continue this basic discussion first and reach consensus.
Here is my thinking.
The basic question is if you really are describing different things, or properties of totally different objects?
Then probably the answer should be yes, because it's CPU usage vs storage (and networks can be another).
Still you can use a common schema and use for instance a type property saying what usage is published.
The problem in using a common schema can arise if some property has a different meaning depending on the type of usage. And also if you discuss changes you always have to keep in mind the different types, which may block progress.
So, probably separate schemas will be the best roadmap in the end.
Probably it would be best to collect the different arguments and then try to decide?

Best regards,

Jules
> 
> - What would you prefer to do in case we discuss other property not
> directly connected with storage accounting? Should we include
> everything
> in the discussion now or concentrate only on this topic and try to
> finalize an update before moving to other things?
> 
> Cheers
> Andrea
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/18/2010 05:19 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
> > P.S.: here is the link
> >
> > http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?id=2029
> >
> >
> >
> > On 03/18/2010 05:15 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I have uploaded the slide I presented in Munich last Monday. As
> soon as
> >> we check the minute of the discussion I will upload the file, we
> can
> >> continue the discussion and decide how to proceed.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Andrea
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/10/2010 04:40 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dear all,
> >>>
> >>> We have a session scheduled for Monday, March 15 from 4:00 pm
> to 5:30 pm
> >>> Location: HGB-A 016.
> >>>
> >>> Agenda:
> >>> - UR for Storage Accounting discussion
> >>> - AUR discussion
> >>> - AOB
> >>>
> >>> If you want to add or change something on the agenda please let
> me know.
> >>> I'm plannig to prepare some slide to show to the people present
> there
> >>> that can be a starting point for the discussion.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Andrea
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
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