[UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule

[Andrea Cristofori]

Hi Jules,



On 03/23/2010 04:53 PM, Jules Wolfrat wrote:
> Dear Andrea,
>
>    
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Andrea Cristofori
>> Sent: 23 March 2010 15:49
>> To: ur-wg at ogf.org
>> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> While waiting for the minute I'll suggest we can already start to
>> discuss one basic topic that came up during the meeting before we
>> move
>> to more specific things.
>>
>> - Since the beginning I was thinking just to add new properties to
>> the
>> existing UR definition. This would allow to choose those that are
>> needed
>> in each situation and reuse those that are common. In case of new
>> versions of the UR definition if we update a property then is not
>> needed
>> to update all the definition if this is common. Not all of us
>> agreed
>> with that and it was proposed to create a different usage record
>> for the
>> Storage.
>> What do you think?
>>      
> I think it is indeed a good idea to continue this basic discussion first and reach consensus.
> Here is my thinking.
> The basic question is if you really are describing different things, or properties of totally different objects?
> Then probably the answer should be yes, because it's CPU usage vs storage (and networks can be another).
> Still you can use a common schema and use for instance a type property saying what usage is published.
> The problem in using a common schema can arise if some property has a different meaning depending on the type of usage. And also if you discuss changes you always have to keep in mind the different types, which may block progress.
>    

Probably we could  avoid a property that says which kind of usage is 
published if we can describe unique properties that apply only for a 
certain kind of record and common property that apply to all with the 
same meaning.

> So, probably separate schemas will be the best roadmap in the end.
> Probably it would be best to collect the different arguments and then try to decide?
>    

After seeing the presentation that Chen posted I'd like to know if a 
decision was already taken and we should skip this part or if nothing 
has been decided yet.

Cheers
Andrea


> Best regards,
>
> Jules
>    
>> - What would you prefer to do in case we discuss other property not
>> directly connected with storage accounting? Should we include
>> everything
>> in the discussion now or concentrate only on this topic and try to
>> finalize an update before moving to other things?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/18/2010 05:19 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>      
>>> P.S.: here is the link
>>>
>>> http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?id=2029
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/18/2010 05:15 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I have uploaded the slide I presented in Munich last Monday. As
>>>>          
>> soon as
>>      
>>>> we check the minute of the discussion I will upload the file, we
>>>>          
>> can
>>      
>>>> continue the discussion and decide how to proceed.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2010 04:40 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a session scheduled for Monday, March 15 from 4:00 pm
>>>>>            
>> to 5:30 pm
>>      
>>>>> Location: HGB-A 016.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda:
>>>>> - UR for Storage Accounting discussion
>>>>> - AUR discussion
>>>>> - AOB
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to add or change something on the agenda please let
>>>>>            
>> me know.
>>      
>>>>> I'm plannig to prepare some slide to show to the people present
>>>>>            
>> there
>>      
>>>>> that can be a starting point for the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>
>>>        
>>
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