[UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule

[Wolfgang Ziegler]

Hi all,

if we are going for UR2.0 spec I would like to remind that
we need a way to express license cost in a UR.



Am/On 23.03.10 17:11, Xiaoyu Chen schrieb/wrote:
> Hello John:
> 
>       It's a good idea to have a UR 2.0 specification, but I won't recommend a separate storage usage record. In OGF 21, Donal and I came up with a long-term roadmap for UR 2.0 (as attached). How about come up with some storage metrics rather than another usage record template for storage. I will try to squeeze sometime for the UR core schema, which abstract common template for different types of usage records, computing, storage, service, etc. 
> 
>       PS: I've moved to university of Southampton (email: xc2 at ecs.soton.ac.uk) and got a project deadline in May. But I will try my best to input something. I also asked for replacement of my chairship. 
> 
> 
>       
>                 Best Regards!
> 
> X. Chen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org on behalf of john.gordon at stfc.ac.uk
> Sent: Tue 23/03/2010 15:42
> To: andrea.cristofori at cnaf.infn.it; ur-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
>  
> Andrea, at OGF28 someone suggested that we had a choice of either
> fitting the storage record into the existing UR or defining a new
> standard.  I do not think that this is the case. The existing UR
> UsageRecord element has a UsageRecordType type of which JobUsageRecord
> is a defined type. I think we need to define a new type
> StorageUsageRecord which can contain some of the existing Global
> attributes defined for the JobUsageRecord. 
> 
> We could also define a FileUsageRecord to cover the case you were
> defining Andrea.
> 
> John
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf
> Of
>> Andrea Cristofori
>> Sent: 23 March 2010 14:49
>> To: ur-wg at ogf.org
>> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> While waiting for the minute I'll suggest we can already start to
>> discuss one basic topic that came up during the meeting before we move
>> to more specific things.
>>
>> - Since the beginning I was thinking just to add new properties to the
>> existing UR definition. This would allow to choose those that are
>> needed
>> in each situation and reuse those that are common. In case of new
>> versions of the UR definition if we update a property then is not
>> needed
>> to update all the definition if this is common. Not all of us agreed
>> with that and it was proposed to create a different usage record for
>> the
>> Storage.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> - What would you prefer to do in case we discuss other property not
>> directly connected with storage accounting? Should we include
>> everything
>> in the discussion now or concentrate only on this topic and try to
>> finalize an update before moving to other things?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/18/2010 05:19 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>> P.S.: here is the link
>>>
>>> http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?id=2029
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/18/2010 05:15 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> I have uploaded the slide I presented in Munich last Monday. As
> soon
>> as
>>>> we check the minute of the discussion I will upload the file, we
> can
>>>> continue the discussion and decide how to proceed.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2010 04:40 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a session scheduled for Monday, March 15 from 4:00 pm to
>> 5:30 pm
>>>>> Location: HGB-A 016.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda:
>>>>> - UR for Storage Accounting discussion
>>>>> - AUR discussion
>>>>> - AOB
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to add or change something on the agenda please let me
>> know.
>>>>> I'm plannig to prepare some slide to show to the people present
>> there
>>>>> that can be a starting point for the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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