[UR-WG] Initial draft of exp. doc with 'experiences presentation' included

Tue May 19 09:45:03 CDT 2009

Dear Steve, all,

Sorry for not answering before. I'm a little bit surprised that the DEISA accounting facilities are not mentioned in the document as far as I can see. Already more than a year ago we provided feedback from our project, see 
https://forge.ogf.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ur-wg/discussion.usage_record_v1_0_experiences 
But I never did see any follow up of this before the current document was distributed, but I may have missed it. I realize that we are not very actively attending the OGF sessions (just too many overlapping meetings), but we certainly are willing to contribute to these activities (recently we discussed with NDGF about joint further developments too).

Unfortunately we don't have an up-to-date document describing our current architecture, the most general description can be found in this document:
http://www.ges2007.de/fileadmin/papers/jreetz/GES_paper105.pdf 

The most important changes are that we don't base the usage retrieval anymore on WSRF based services and that we have a GUI based client DART (http://www.deisa.eu/usersupport/user-documentation/deisa-accounting-report-tool ).

I hope that this helps a little.

Cheers,

Jules

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ur-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On
> Behalf Of Steve Crouch
> Sent: 19 May 2009 11:28
> To: ur-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] Initial draft of exp. doc with 'experiences
> presentation' included
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> In advance of OGF next week, I'd like to make some more progress on
> the
> UR exp doc (circulated on 01/04, find attached in pdf and doc).
> From my
> point of view, the key things are:
> 
>  - Get the UR use cases/architectural views correct/verified (DGAS
> clearly needs to be updated!)
>  - Include a section on extensions to UR (perhaps covering the
> kinds of
> issues/approaches suggested by Donal w.r.t. Tobias' recent email on
> extending URs?)
>  - Clarify and agree on general structure, and content for the
> other
> sections of the document
>  - Any others?
> 
> The 01/04 version is a rough pass, but would greatly appreciate any
> further comments on the doc or suggestions on the way forward.
> 
> Andrea, many thanks for your comments - would you be able to supply
> (or
> point me to) a more updated architectural view/use case for DGAS?
> I can
> put that in the doc.  It could be in a very rough form, can always
> sort
> out the formatting later.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Cheers
> Steve Crouch
> 
> Andrea Guarise wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I had a look at the DGAS part of the document. I'm sorry, but it
> > reflects the architecture of an early stage of the prototypal
> > architecture of the system.
> > Actual, production level, architecture is definitely different
> (and
> > simpler). DGAS Legacy user records are different as well altough
> they
> > can be mapped to OGF-UR.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Andrea Guarise
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 1, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Steve Crouch wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I've done a first rough pass of putting the UR experiences
> presentation
> >> material into an experiences document - see attached.  You'll
> have to
> >> excuse the doc styling, the template is a bit lacking in this
> area!
> >>
> >> I've also added in some text around the content for starters,
> which I
> >> expect will need to be changed, but haven't added else much to
> the core
> >> text yet.  I haven't redone the diagrams, including a single one
> for
> >> each use case from the presentation.  I would like to be sure
> this is
> >> progressing in an acceptable fashion first before making more
> detailed
> >> changes.
> >>
> >> Any comments/suggestions very welcome!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Steve Crouch
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr Stephen Crouch,
> >> Software Architect,
> >> OMII-UK,
> >> Electronics and Computer Science,
> >> Room 4067, Level 4, Building 32,
> >> University of Southampton,
> >> Highfield, Southampton SO17 1BJ
> >> Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 8787        EMail: s.crouch at omii.ac.uk
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> >>
> >>
> >> <UR-WG_UR1.0Experiences-20090330.doc>--
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> >
> 
> --
> Dr Stephen Crouch,
> Software Architect,
> OMII-UK,
> Electronics and Computer Science,
> Room 4067, Level 4, Building 32,
> University of Southampton,
> Highfield, Southampton SO17 1BJ
> Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 8787        EMail: s.crouch at omii.ac.uk
> Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 3045        WWW:
> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~stc
> 