[tsc] Fwd: comments on OGF Technical Strategy document

[David Snelling]

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> From: "Linesch, Mark" <mark.linesch at hp.com>
> Date: 2 January 2007 16:04:56 GMT
> To: "David Snelling" <David.Snelling at UK.Fujitsu.com>, "Joel  
> Replogle" <replogle at ogf.org>
> Cc: <scrumb at ogf.org>
> Subject: FW: comments on OGF Technical Strategy document
>
>  David, Joel,
>
> Comments on the TSC document from Greg Astfalk at HP. Mark
>
>
> Mark Linesch: Open Grid Forum (OGF): Hewlett Packard
> 281-514-0322 (Tel): 281-414-7082 (Cell) mark.linesch at hp.com :
> linesch at ogf.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Astfalk, Greg
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:24 AM
> To: Linesch, Mark; Walker, Martin Antony (HPTC); Vickers, Paul
> Subject: comments on OGF Technical Strategy document
>
> FWIW, in no particular order, and ranging from mega- to minutia...
>
>  - Section 1.2 is missing a section numberin the third sentence
>
>  - Section 1.3:  "distributed computing at Internet scale" is a
>    poor summation.  It will, for many people, eliminate the more
>    practical and valuable intra-organization grids.
>
>  - Section 1.3, second paragraph implies that your focus is only on
>    collections of supercomputers.  I certainly hope that is <not> the
>    case.  Otherwise why did you merge with EGA, and why am I funding
>    OGF?
>
>  - Section 2: the stated goal is laudable, very.  However, I have  
> angst
>    over the use of "defined" (see more comments below).  The clock is
>    ticking and 3 years is a genuinely short time-frame to get through
>    the process described later in the document.  For me this imples  
> that
>    you need to speed-up since pushing the date out is the wrong thing
>    to do.
>
>  - In some places in the document you use the construct "...text -
> text..."
>    this should always be "...text<em-dashh>text...".  That is, use the
>    em-dash character (Word has it) with no spaces on either side.   
> There
>    are some places where you did this.
>
>  - The bullet list in section 2 does not have the requisite  
> emphasis on
>    "product".  OGF needs to be known for more than jsut paper specs.
>    How do reference implementations evolve to "product"?
>
>  - Figure 1: I assume that the union of use cases will provide the  
> gaps?
>    This should be almost known already, especially including the
> commercial
>    space.  This gors back to my point above that 2010 is an aggressive
>    goal.
>
>  - OGF has a lot of WGs, some more important and relevant than others.
>    Is there a possiblity of re-factoring the human capital toward
> meeting
>    the core set of WGs needed to meet your 2010 goal?  I am aware that
>    this is volunteer stuff.
>
>  - Section 4.3: Would this be more accurate titled if it were "Data
>    Movement"
>
>  - Section 4.3: Change "...from this from this..." to "...from  
> this..."
>
>  - Section 4.6: You need to add auditing to the required list,  
> i.e., all
>    three components of the so-called AAA (aka triple-A) are necessary.
>
>  - Section 4.6.1" Tyhw work of Wenbo Mao in HPL-Beijing is, IMO,
>    especially useful here.  It does, however, require the presence of
> TPMs.
>
>  - Section 5 in the sub-bullet list: You list "Product" and that it is
>    supported.  By who?  This goes back to my point on the word  
> "defined"
>    in your goal statement.  Organizations will not be able or ready to
>    build operational grids without functioning code.  It is  
> axiomatic to
>    me that if only paper specs exist then your goal will not be
> realizable.
>    It is also nearly so that you can not develop "product" by  
> then.  To
>    have "support" by 2010 is, IMO, impossible.  Is this a solvable
>    conundrum?
>
>  - Section 5: Change "Table 1 is not a complete list of OGF activity
> nor..."
>    to "Table 1 is neither a complete list of OGF activity nor...".   
> You
>    know, the ususal neither/nor, either/or thing...
>
>  - Section 6: A really, really good mandate.  Change "All OGF document
>    must..." to "All OGF documents must...".
>
>

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