[saga-rg] Re: Fwd (s.jha at ucl.ac.uk): terry sloan/malcolm

[Terry Sloan]

Hi Andre and Shantenu,

Thanks for the reply and I am glad you have found our usage of the SAGA 
API of interest.

We'll consider your questions over the next few days and probably what 
we will do is use these as the basis of our presentation at the SAGA 
workshop in Athens.  Does that seem reasonable ?

Terry

Andre Merzky wrote:

>Dear Terry, 
>
>our excuses that responding to your mail took us so long -
>that does not at all mean that we don't find that
>interesting! :-)  Actually, we are very excited that
>somebody is taking up parts of the SAGA API and is
>implementing is - we wish we'd see more of that :-D
>
>Anyway, nowadays most emails seem to start with excuses for
>delay *sigh*
>
>The zip file available at the pointer you prvided contains a
>design document.  We read that, and do have a couple of
>questions.
>
>First of all, we are happy that the API you implemented
>stayed so close to the SAGA spec.  Well, positively thinking
>as we are, we think that this reflects the validity of the
>API.  OTOH, we don't know how painful that was for you ;-)
>Well, was it painful?
>
>Further questions:
>
> - Can we add your document to our informal list of UC, i.e.
>   put it on our wiki for future references?  That would
>   probably imply GGF IP policy, which means public domain -
>   however, Copyright is of course not affected.
>
> - Roctopus sound very interesting: is fair to say it is to unicore what CoG is to Globus?
> 
> - What security mechanisms are you using on middleware
>   layer?  
>
> - would it be possibly for you to document the problems you
>   had while implementing in detail?  We figured some of
>   them from the docs (see below) - are there others?
>
> - The docs mention the lack of resource discovery in SAGA -
>   is that a huge problem for you?
>
> - changes from interface to class, e.g. NSDir:
>   we figured out the same in the C++ implementastion: it is
>   much more convenient to have NSDir etc as classes.
>
> - get_name and get_URL: 
>   We have fixed this I think, get_URL now exists
>
> - pg 18, add "doesAttributeExist" , "isAttributeReadOnly"
>   Right, introspection for the attributes was missing, we
>   added that.  Thanks!
>
> - pg 18 mentions inconsistencies - could you elaborate on
>   that, please?
>
> - pg 20, suggestion to clean-up is a good point of course.
>   Its now on the TODO/Isuse list (not sure what that means
>   though ;-)
>
> - pg 5 mentiosn your future OGSA activity - is there a
>   timeline for that?
>
>
>Cheers, Andre & Shantenu.
>
>
>Quoting [Terry Sloan] (Nov 24 2005):
>  
>
>>Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:29:08 +0000
>>From: Terry Sloan <tms at epcc.ed.ac.uk>
>>To: Simple API for Grid Applications WG <saga-rg at ggf.org>
>>Subject: [saga-rg] Update on the DEISA SAGA-based tool
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Just thought you might be interested to know  the JRA7 team from the 
>>DEISA project have just released the latest version of their command 
>>line tool that is based on parts of  NSDir and JobManagement.
>>
>>You can download the software 
>>http://forge.nesc.ac.uk/projects/deisa-jra7/ under Latest file releases.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Terry Sloan
>>    
>>
>
>  
>

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