[saga-rg] Re: Fwd (s.jha at ucl.ac.uk): terry sloan/malcolm

Andre Merzky andre at merzky.net
Tue Jan 31 04:10:26 CST 2006


That sounds perfect!

Thanks, Andre.


Quoting [Terry Sloan] (Jan 31 2006):
> 
> Hi Andre and Shantenu,
> 
> Thanks for the reply and I am glad you have found our usage of the SAGA 
> API of interest.
> 
> We'll consider your questions over the next few days and probably what 
> we will do is use these as the basis of our presentation at the SAGA 
> workshop in Athens.  Does that seem reasonable ?
> 
> Terry
>
> 
> Andre Merzky wrote:
> 
> >Dear Terry, 
> >
> >our excuses that responding to your mail took us so long -
> >that does not at all mean that we don't find that
> >interesting! :-)  Actually, we are very excited that
> >somebody is taking up parts of the SAGA API and is
> >implementing is - we wish we'd see more of that :-D
> >
> >Anyway, nowadays most emails seem to start with excuses for
> >delay *sigh*
> >
> >The zip file available at the pointer you prvided contains a
> >design document.  We read that, and do have a couple of
> >questions.
> >
> >First of all, we are happy that the API you implemented
> >stayed so close to the SAGA spec.  Well, positively thinking
> >as we are, we think that this reflects the validity of the
> >API.  OTOH, we don't know how painful that was for you ;-)
> >Well, was it painful?
> >
> >Further questions:
> >
> >- Can we add your document to our informal list of UC, i.e.
> >  put it on our wiki for future references?  That would
> >  probably imply GGF IP policy, which means public domain -
> >  however, Copyright is of course not affected.
> >
> >- Roctopus sound very interesting: is fair to say it is to unicore what 
> >CoG is to Globus?
> >
> >- What security mechanisms are you using on middleware
> >  layer?  
> >
> >- would it be possibly for you to document the problems you
> >  had while implementing in detail?  We figured some of
> >  them from the docs (see below) - are there others?
> >
> >- The docs mention the lack of resource discovery in SAGA -
> >  is that a huge problem for you?
> >
> >- changes from interface to class, e.g. NSDir:
> >  we figured out the same in the C++ implementastion: it is
> >  much more convenient to have NSDir etc as classes.
> >
> >- get_name and get_URL: 
> >  We have fixed this I think, get_URL now exists
> >
> >- pg 18, add "doesAttributeExist" , "isAttributeReadOnly"
> >  Right, introspection for the attributes was missing, we
> >  added that.  Thanks!
> >
> >- pg 18 mentions inconsistencies - could you elaborate on
> >  that, please?
> >
> >- pg 20, suggestion to clean-up is a good point of course.
> >  Its now on the TODO/Isuse list (not sure what that means
> >  though ;-)
> >
> >- pg 5 mentiosn your future OGSA activity - is there a
> >  timeline for that?
> >
> >
> >Cheers, Andre & Shantenu.
> >
> >
> >Quoting [Terry Sloan] (Nov 24 2005):
> > 
> >
> >>Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:29:08 +0000
> >>From: Terry Sloan <tms at epcc.ed.ac.uk>
> >>To: Simple API for Grid Applications WG <saga-rg at ggf.org>
> >>Subject: [saga-rg] Update on the DEISA SAGA-based tool
> >>
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>Just thought you might be interested to know  the JRA7 team from the 
> >>DEISA project have just released the latest version of their command 
> >>line tool that is based on parts of  NSDir and JobManagement.
> >>
> >>You can download the software 
> >>http://forge.nesc.ac.uk/projects/deisa-jra7/ under Latest file releases.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Terry Sloan
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