[saga-rg] Research Group / Working Groups

Thilo Kielmann kielmann at cs.vu.nl
Sat Feb 4 09:18:49 CST 2006


I think we have an advantage:
we have the applications' view as stated in our use cases.

E.g., service management might be what (OGSA) services providers care about,
our applications however, don't.

Remember the "A" at the end of "SAGA"?


Thilo

On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:14:44PM +0100, Andre Merzky wrote:
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> Ah, I knew it wouldn't be _that_ easy ;-)
> 
> Well, what is the CORE of Grid capabilities is in the eye of
> the beholder I think.  Certainly, the strawman covers the
> core capabilities from the SAGA use cases.  
> 
> However, if you ask some OGSA guy about the core of Grid
> capabilities, I am fairly sure that stream multiplexing will
> be very much absent on his list...
> 
> So, for us it certainly is the core of things we need - in
> the grandbright future of SAGA scope it is probably not.
> 
> But, actually, whatever - its just naming after all... ;-)
> As long as we know what we want to achieve it does not
> matter. (But I would hate to hear "you need to do service
> management, that _definitely_ belongs to the core of Grids").
> 
> Cheers, Andre.
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting [Thilo Kielmann] (Feb 04 2006):
> > 
> > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 10:30:05AM +0100, Andre Merzky wrote:
> > > I think the name SAGA-CORE-WG is misleading, as the strawman
> > > does not really define a Core API.  That role, defining the
> > > core, look and feel, and basic paradigms, would rather fit
> > > the target of the RG.
> > 
> > I'd like to disagree, violently!
> > 
> > IF the current API scope of the strawman is supposed to make any sense,
> > then as the CORE functionality, the absolute required minimum needed.
> > (files and job spawning, and the stuff needed to support this -- very roughly
> > speaking)
> > 
> > If it is not this, then I would not see the justification for the strawman's
> > contents. 
> > 
> > 
> > Thilo
> > 
> > PS: Andre, this is "core" as in "the very essential", not as in 
> >     "rock solid, made for eternity".
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