[saga-rg] Research Group / Working Groups

Andre Merzky andre at merzky.net
Sat Feb 4 09:27:11 CST 2006


Quoting [Thilo Kielmann] (Feb 04 2006):
> 
> I think we have an advantage:
> we have the applications' view as stated in our use cases.
> 
> E.g., service management might be what (OGSA) services providers care about,
> our applications however, don't.
> 
> Remember the "A" at the end of "SAGA"?

Ah, right, there's an 'A' ;-)

Ok, fair point.  But still I think that our idea of a core
might not be long lasting.

Whatever :-)

Cheers, Andre.

> Thilo
> 
> On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 04:14:44PM +0100, Andre Merzky wrote:
> > 
> > Ah, I knew it wouldn't be _that_ easy ;-)
> > 
> > Well, what is the CORE of Grid capabilities is in the eye of
> > the beholder I think.  Certainly, the strawman covers the
> > core capabilities from the SAGA use cases.  
> > 
> > However, if you ask some OGSA guy about the core of Grid
> > capabilities, I am fairly sure that stream multiplexing will
> > be very much absent on his list...
> > 
> > So, for us it certainly is the core of things we need - in
> > the grandbright future of SAGA scope it is probably not.
> > 
> > But, actually, whatever - its just naming after all... ;-)
> > As long as we know what we want to achieve it does not
> > matter. (But I would hate to hear "you need to do service
> > management, that _definitely_ belongs to the core of Grids").
> > 
> > Cheers, Andre.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Quoting [Thilo Kielmann] (Feb 04 2006):
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 10:30:05AM +0100, Andre Merzky wrote:
> > > > I think the name SAGA-CORE-WG is misleading, as the strawman
> > > > does not really define a Core API.  That role, defining the
> > > > core, look and feel, and basic paradigms, would rather fit
> > > > the target of the RG.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to disagree, violently!
> > > 
> > > IF the current API scope of the strawman is supposed to make any sense,
> > > then as the CORE functionality, the absolute required minimum needed.
> > > (files and job spawning, and the stuff needed to support this -- very roughly
> > > speaking)
> > > 
> > > If it is not this, then I would not see the justification for the strawman's
> > > contents. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thilo
> > > 
> > > PS: Andre, this is "core" as in "the very essential", not as in 
> > >     "rock solid, made for eternity".

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