[Pgi-wg] Promised document
Steve Crouch
s.crouch at omii.ac.uk
Wed May 20 08:57:32 CDT 2009
Hi,
OMII-UK's intent is to support this within GridSAM. As of today, we
haven't commissioned anybody or committed our own effort, but we're
currently looking into ways we could support this work.
Cheers
Steve Crouch
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Morris Riedel wrote:
> ..as part of Grid-SAM?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Morris Riedel
> SW - Engineer
> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division
> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC)
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>
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>> ------Original Message-----
>> -From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom at oerc.ox.ac.uk]
>> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:38 PM
>> -To: Morris Riedel; 'Moreno Marzolla'
>> -Cc: Steven Newhouse; pgi-wg at ogf.org
>> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>> -
>> -It is being implemented by OMII-UK
>> -
>> -David
>> -
>> -
>> -On 20/05/2009 12:30, "Morris Riedel" <m.riedel at fz-juelich.de> wrote:
>> -
>> -> Hi team,
>> ->
>> ->> - David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep
>> ->> -extension" draft as it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily
>> ->> -different jobs (for the requirement of bulk job submission to the
>> ->> -execution service, which is a feature currently not supported).
>> ->
>> -> FYI: I did an excerpt of this standard yesterday, I put it on gridforge
> for
>> -> those that seek a short insight:
>> ->
>> ->
> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc
>> -> man.root.input_documents.execution_service/doc15635
>> ->
>> ->
>> -> So far, it looks like a reasonable good emerging standard lacking
>> -> implementations I guess - but yet another JSDL extension... :-)
>> ->
>> -> Take care,
>> -> Morris
>> ->
>> ->
>> ->
>> -> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> -> Morris Riedel
>> -> SW - Engineer
>> -> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division
>> -> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC)
>> -> Forschungszentrum Juelich
>> -> Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1
>> -> D - 52425 Juelich
>> -> Germany
>> ->
>> -> Email: m.riedel at fz-juelich.de
>> -> Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel
>> -> Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651
>> -> Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656
>> ->
>> -> Skype: MorrisRiedel
>> ->
>> -> "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity"
>> ->
>> -> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich
>> -> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498
>> -> Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe
>> -> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
>> -> Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)
>> ->
>> ->
>> ->> ------Original Message-----
>> ->> -From: Moreno Marzolla [mailto:moreno.marzolla at pd.infn.it]
>> ->> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:52 AM
>> ->> -To: Morris Riedel
>> ->> -Cc: 'Balazs Konya'; 'Steven Newhouse'; pgi-wg at ogf.org
>> ->> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>> ->> -
>> ->> -Morris Riedel wrote:
>> ->> -> Hi team,
>> ->> ->
>> ->> ->> and had not seen any comment to Andrew¹s document?
>> ->> ->
>> ->> ->> - I haven't seen any real comments to the GES rendering document
>> -> either.
>> ->> ->
>> ->> -> Yeah that was my idea with the factsheet, which had the views of
> both
>> ->> -> documents merged - but this was ignored and now we have again our
> two
>> ->> -> fronts...
>> ->> -
>> ->> -We will *always* have the two front, but I'll give my views later
> during
>> ->> -the teleconference.
>> ->> -Anyway I should point out that during the last call there was no time
>> ->> -left to discuss anything else, which in my opinion was fine anyway
>> ->> -because we had the opportunity to understand the "GES realization via
>> ->> -existing specification" document quite well.
>> ->> -
>> ->> -By the way, I've not yet put formal minutes of the last meetings on
> the
>> ->> -wiki. From my recallings, here they are (please double check the list
> of
>> ->> -participants, I remember that there was at least another person from
> the
>> ->> -University of Virginia but I do not remember the name):
>> ->> -
>> ->> -----------
>> ->> -
>> ->> -Teleconference on 2009-05-13, 04:00 CET
>> ->> -
>> ->> -Presents:
>> ->> -
>> ->> -- Andrew Grimshaw
>> ->> -- Aleksandr Konstantinov
>> ->> -- Moreno Marzolla
>> ->> -- Morris Riedel
>> ->> -- Etienne Urbah
>> ->> -- David Wallom
>> ->> -
>> ->> -Apologies:
>> ->> -
>> ->> -- Johannes Watzl
>> ->> -
>> ->> -Discussion:
>> ->> -
>> ->> -- Andrew illustrated in detail the document "GES realization via
>> ->> -existing specifications" http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15630?nav=1
>> ->> -(version 1).
>> ->> -
>> ->> -- The discussion pinpointed some requirements (from the "Execution
>> ->> -Service Strawman" document "http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15590?nav=1
> )
>> ->> -which are not clear enough. In particular, the requirement of "support
>> ->> -for parallel jobs" should be clarified (e.g., state clearly what is
>> ->> -intended by "parallel job").
>> ->> -
>> ->> -- David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep extension" draft
> as
>> ->> -it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily different jobs (for the
>> ->> -requirement of bulk job submission to the execution service, which is
> a
>> ->> -feature currently not supported).
>> ->> -
>> ->> -----------
>> ->> -
>> ->> -Moreno.
>> ->> -
>> ->> ---
>> ->> -Moreno Marzolla
>> ->> -INFN Sezione di Padova, via Marzolo 8, 35131 PADOVA, Italy
>> ->> -EMail: moreno.marzolla at pd.infn.it Phone: +39 049 8277103
>> ->> -WWW : http://www.dsi.unive.it/~marzolla Fax : +39 049 8756233
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University of Southampton,
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