[Pgi-wg] Promised document

Wed May 20 09:00:17 CDT 2009

>> -It is being implemented by OMII-UK

...what leads to "It is planned for being implemented by OMII-UK"

.. I already circulated the spec around here to see whether some UNICORE
folks are keen going for it... ;-)

Thanks for the info Steve,
Morris

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>------Original Message-----
>-From: pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of
>-Steve Crouch
>-Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:58 PM
>-To: pgi-wg at ogf.org
>-Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>-
>-Hi,
>-
>-OMII-UK's intent is to support this within GridSAM.  As of today, we
>-haven't commissioned anybody or committed our own effort, but we're
>-currently looking into ways we could support this work.
>-
>-Cheers
>-Steve Crouch
>-
>---
>-Dr Stephen Crouch,
>-Software Architect,
>-OMII-UK,
>-Electronics and Computer Science,
>-Room 4067, Level 4, Building 32,
>-University of Southampton,
>-Highfield, Southampton SO17 1BJ
>-Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 8787        EMail: s.crouch at omii.ac.uk
>-Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 3045        WWW: http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~stc
>-
>-Morris Riedel wrote:
>-> ..as part of Grid-SAM?
>->
>-> ------------------------------------------------------------
>-> Morris Riedel
>-> SW - Engineer
>-> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division
>-> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC)
>-> Forschungszentrum Juelich
>-> Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1
>-> D - 52425 Juelich
>-> Germany
>->
>-> Email: m.riedel at fz-juelich.de
>-> Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel
>-> Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651
>-> Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656
>->
>-> Skype: MorrisRiedel
>->
>-> "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity"
>->
>-> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich
>-> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498
>-> Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe
>-> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
>-> Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)
>->
>->
>->> ------Original Message-----
>->> -From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom at oerc.ox.ac.uk]
>->> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:38 PM
>->> -To: Morris Riedel; 'Moreno Marzolla'
>->> -Cc: Steven Newhouse; pgi-wg at ogf.org
>->> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>->> -
>->> -It is being implemented by OMII-UK
>->> -
>->> -David
>->> -
>->> -
>->> -On 20/05/2009 12:30, "Morris Riedel" <m.riedel at fz-juelich.de> wrote:
>->> -
>->> -> Hi team,
>->> ->
>->> ->> - David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep
>->> ->> -extension" draft as it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily
>->> ->> -different jobs (for the requirement of bulk job submission to the
>->> ->> -execution service, which is a feature currently not supported).
>->> ->
>->> -> FYI: I did an excerpt of this standard yesterday, I put it on
gridforge
>-> for
>->> -> those that seek a short insight:
>->> ->
>->> ->
>->
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc
>->> -> man.root.input_documents.execution_service/doc15635
>->> ->
>->> ->
>->> -> So far, it looks like a reasonable good emerging standard lacking
>->> -> implementations I guess - but yet another JSDL extension... :-)
>->> ->
>->> -> Take care,
>->> -> Morris
>->> ->
>->> ->
>->> ->
>->> -> ------------------------------------------------------------
>->> -> Morris Riedel
>->> -> SW - Engineer
>->> -> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division
>->> -> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC)
>->> -> Forschungszentrum Juelich
>->> -> Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1
>->> -> D - 52425 Juelich
>->> -> Germany
>->> ->
>->> -> Email: m.riedel at fz-juelich.de
>->> -> Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel
>->> -> Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651
>->> -> Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656
>->> ->
>->> -> Skype: MorrisRiedel
>->> ->
>->> -> "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity"
>->> ->
>->> -> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich
>->> -> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498
>->> -> Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe
>->> -> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
>->> -> Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)
>->> ->
>->> ->
>->> ->> ------Original Message-----
>->> ->> -From: Moreno Marzolla [mailto:moreno.marzolla at pd.infn.it]
>->> ->> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:52 AM
>->> ->> -To: Morris Riedel
>->> ->> -Cc: 'Balazs Konya'; 'Steven Newhouse'; pgi-wg at ogf.org
>->> ->> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -Morris Riedel wrote:
>->> ->> -> Hi team,
>->> ->> ->
>->> ->> ->> and had not seen any comment to Andrew¹s document?
>->> ->> ->
>->> ->> ->> - I haven't seen any real comments to the GES rendering
document
>->> -> either.
>->> ->> ->
>->> ->> -> Yeah that was my idea with the factsheet, which had the views of
>-> both
>->> ->> -> documents merged - but this was ignored and now we have again
our
>-> two
>->> ->> -> fronts...
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -We will *always* have the two front, but I'll give my views later
>-> during
>->> ->> -the teleconference.
>->> ->> -Anyway I should point out that during the last call there was no
time
>->> ->> -left to discuss anything else, which in my opinion was fine anyway
>->> ->> -because we had the opportunity to understand the "GES realization
via
>->> ->> -existing specification" document quite well.
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -By the way, I've not yet put formal minutes of the last meetings
on
>-> the
>->> ->> -wiki. From my recallings, here they are (please double check the
list
>-> of
>->> ->> -participants, I remember that there was at least another person
from
>-> the
>->> ->> -University of Virginia but I do not remember the name):
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -----------
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -Teleconference on 2009-05-13, 04:00 CET
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -Presents:
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -- Andrew Grimshaw
>->> ->> -- Aleksandr Konstantinov
>->> ->> -- Moreno Marzolla
>->> ->> -- Morris Riedel
>->> ->> -- Etienne Urbah
>->> ->> -- David Wallom
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -Apologies:
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -- Johannes Watzl
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -Discussion:
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -- Andrew illustrated in detail the document "GES realization via
>->> ->> -existing specifications" http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15630?nav=1
>->> ->> -(version 1).
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -- The discussion pinpointed some requirements (from the "Execution
>->> ->> -Service Strawman" document
"http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15590?nav=1
>-> )
>->> ->> -which are not clear enough. In particular, the requirement of
"support
>->> ->> -for parallel jobs" should be clarified (e.g., state clearly what
is
>->> ->> -intended by "parallel job").
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -- David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep extension"
draft
>-> as
>->> ->> -it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily different jobs (for
the
>->> ->> -requirement of bulk job submission to the execution service, which
is
>-> a
>->> ->> -feature currently not supported).
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -----------
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> -Moreno.
>->> ->> -
>->> ->> ---
>->> ->> -Moreno Marzolla
>->> ->> -INFN Sezione di Padova,    via Marzolo 8,   35131 PADOVA,  Italy
>->> ->> -EMail: moreno.marzolla at pd.infn.it         Phone: +39 049 8277103
>->> ->> -WWW  : http://www.dsi.unive.it/~marzolla  Fax  : +39 049 8756233
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