[Pgi-wg] Promised document

Morris Riedel m.riedel at fz-juelich.de
Wed May 20 08:45:38 CDT 2009


..as part of Grid-SAM?

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Morris Riedel
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>------Original Message-----
>-From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom at oerc.ox.ac.uk]
>-Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:38 PM
>-To: Morris Riedel; 'Moreno Marzolla'
>-Cc: Steven Newhouse; pgi-wg at ogf.org
>-Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>-
>-It is being implemented by OMII-UK
>-
>-David
>-
>-
>-On 20/05/2009 12:30, "Morris Riedel" <m.riedel at fz-juelich.de> wrote:
>-
>-> Hi team,
>->
>->> - David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep
>->> -extension" draft as it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily
>->> -different jobs (for the requirement of bulk job submission to the
>->> -execution service, which is a feature currently not supported).
>->
>-> FYI: I did an excerpt of this standard yesterday, I put it on gridforge
for
>-> those that seek a short insight:
>->
>->
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc
>-> man.root.input_documents.execution_service/doc15635
>->
>->
>-> So far, it looks like a reasonable good emerging standard lacking
>-> implementations I guess - but yet another JSDL extension... :-)
>->
>-> Take care,
>-> Morris
>->
>->
>->
>-> ------------------------------------------------------------
>-> Morris Riedel
>-> SW - Engineer
>-> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division
>-> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC)
>-> Forschungszentrum Juelich
>-> Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1
>-> D - 52425 Juelich
>-> Germany
>->
>-> Email: m.riedel at fz-juelich.de
>-> Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel
>-> Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651
>-> Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656
>->
>-> Skype: MorrisRiedel
>->
>-> "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity"
>->
>-> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich
>-> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498
>-> Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe
>-> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender),
>-> Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)
>->
>->
>->> ------Original Message-----
>->> -From: Moreno Marzolla [mailto:moreno.marzolla at pd.infn.it]
>->> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:52 AM
>->> -To: Morris Riedel
>->> -Cc: 'Balazs Konya'; 'Steven Newhouse'; pgi-wg at ogf.org
>->> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document
>->> -
>->> -Morris Riedel wrote:
>->> -> Hi team,
>->> ->
>->> ->> and had not seen any comment to Andrew¹s document?
>->> ->
>->> ->> - I haven't seen any real comments to the GES rendering document
>-> either.
>->> ->
>->> -> Yeah that was my idea with the factsheet, which had the views of
both
>->> -> documents merged - but this was ignored and now we have again our
two
>->> -> fronts...
>->> -
>->> -We will *always* have the two front, but I'll give my views later
during
>->> -the teleconference.
>->> -Anyway I should point out that during the last call there was no time
>->> -left to discuss anything else, which in my opinion was fine anyway
>->> -because we had the opportunity to understand the "GES realization via
>->> -existing specification" document quite well.
>->> -
>->> -By the way, I've not yet put formal minutes of the last meetings on
the
>->> -wiki. From my recallings, here they are (please double check the list
of
>->> -participants, I remember that there was at least another person from
the
>->> -University of Virginia but I do not remember the name):
>->> -
>->> -----------
>->> -
>->> -Teleconference on 2009-05-13, 04:00 CET
>->> -
>->> -Presents:
>->> -
>->> -- Andrew Grimshaw
>->> -- Aleksandr Konstantinov
>->> -- Moreno Marzolla
>->> -- Morris Riedel
>->> -- Etienne Urbah
>->> -- David Wallom
>->> -
>->> -Apologies:
>->> -
>->> -- Johannes Watzl
>->> -
>->> -Discussion:
>->> -
>->> -- Andrew illustrated in detail the document "GES realization via
>->> -existing specifications" http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15630?nav=1
>->> -(version 1).
>->> -
>->> -- The discussion pinpointed some requirements (from the "Execution
>->> -Service Strawman" document "http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15590?nav=1
)
>->> -which are not clear enough. In particular, the requirement of "support
>->> -for parallel jobs" should be clarified (e.g., state clearly what is
>->> -intended by "parallel job").
>->> -
>->> -- David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep extension" draft
as
>->> -it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily different jobs (for the
>->> -requirement of bulk job submission to the execution service, which is
a
>->> -feature currently not supported).
>->> -
>->> -----------
>->> -
>->> -Moreno.
>->> -
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