[Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization via existing specifications

[Etienne URBAH]

Morris and All,

Concerning the PGI Execution Service :

Lot of thanks to Morris for the wiki page at 
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.pgi-wg/wiki/GES

I am NOT especially Pro or Contra :
-  keeping the existing stacked specifications,
-  or starting a new stand-alone focused specification.

But we need clarification, and I think that this wiki page helps.

So I added into this wiki page the 'List of OGSA-BES et al. 
specifications'.  Please verify if this list is complete, relevant and 
accurate.

Best regards.

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Etienne URBAH         LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS
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On Wed, 13 May 2009, Morris Riedel wrote:
> Hey PGI team,
> 
> 
>   we are running in the pro/contra discussions again and again as it looks
> like... consuming our valuable time fosterings positions w/o clear
> understanding of the bigger picture.
> 
> 
> I suggest we clearly collect all statements related to pro/contra new / old
> specs inside the following wiki page tables:
> 
> 
> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.pgi-wg/wiki/GES?_mes
> sage=1242216401105
> 
> 
> Let's try to collect all statements and positions and have an objective
> whole view on all of them together by filling out this page.
> 
> 
> I hope this also supports the telcon so thanks for adding your views to the
> tables.
> 
> 
> Your co-chair,
> Morris
> 
> 
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>> ------Original Message-----
>> -From: pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of
>> -Andrew Grimshaw
>> -Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:48 PM
>> -To: 'Steven Newhouse'; 'Etienne Urbah'; 'Andrew GRIMSHAW'
>> -Cc: pgi-wg at ogf.org; edges-na3 at mail.edges-grid.eu; lodygens at lal.in2p3.fr
>> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization
> viaexistingspecifications
>> -
>> -All,
>> -The standard is the standard.
>> -
>> -That said what I was trying to point out was
>> -	1) That with minor updates to the BES spec, say to a 1.1 version we
>> -could accommodate many of the requirements in the GES document
>> -	2) That in fact the authors of the BES anticipated many of these
>> -same issues but that they were weeded out.
>> -
>> -As another note since it was perhaps not clear. I was NOT suggesting that
>> -sub-states become part of a new BES 1.1 specification - that "pending"
>> -perhaps should, and that we PROFILE the substates.
>> -
>> -Talk to you all in 130 minutes.
>> -
>> -A
>> -
>> -> -----Original Message-----
>> -> From: Steven Newhouse [mailto:Steven.Newhouse at cern.ch]
>> -> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:08 AM
>> -> To: Etienne Urbah; Andrew GRIMSHAW
>> -> Cc: pgi-wg at ogf.org; edges-na3 at mail.edges-grid.eu; lodygens at lal.in2p3.fr
>> -> Subject: RE: [Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization via
>> -> existingspecifications
>> ->
>> ->
>> -> > -  For BES, official recommendation GDF.108 does NOT contain the
>> -> > 'Running:Stage-in' and 'Running:Stage-out' states.
>> -> >
>> -> >     So we have to decide which basis we take for BES :
>> -> >
>> -> >     - Either OFFICIAL recommendation GDF.108, which I suppose is the
>> -> > one for which you mention existing implementations.
>> ->
>> -> This should be the basis for any further work. Andrew circulated earlier
>> -> versions just to show you relevant functions that were discussed that
>> -> did not make it into the final version.
>> ->
>> -> Steven

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