[orep-wg] WS-ReplicaCatalog specification

[Ann Chervenak]

Hi,

While there may be some RLS-specific stuff in the introduction that 
should be generalized, there is no intention to make this 
application-specific or specific to a particular catalog. It is intended 
to provide general replica catalog functionality. And purpose of sending 
it to the OREP group is to get comments from the community on how to 
make it sufficiently general.

Ann


Steve Crumb wrote:

> Peter, All,
>
> Might I also suggest that if this document is application specific 
> (sorry, I've not read the document), and submission as a 
> recommendations track document is not in order (as Peter implies), 
> that you consider submitting this as an Experimental document.  GGF 
> has four types of documents and one usage of an Experimental type 
> document is to submit (for broader review by the community) a more 
> specific implementation for consideration (and abstraction) toward 
> defining a recommendation track document.
>
> Steve
>
> At 10:34 AM 8/5/2005, Peter Kunszt wrote:
>
>> hi rob and ann,
>>
>> without wanting to sound rude or out of place, please allow me
>> to tell you that in my opinion the current scope definition of
>> the document and also the introduction is not suitable
>> for a GGF standardization document.
>>
>> it cannot be that a standard is tied to a very specific implementation
>> of a very specific product. a standard should be a just the pure 
>> interface
>> definition with its semantics defined, so that every group that 
>> intends to
>> implement the standard, can do so in a well-defined way. its scope has
>> to be addressing a well-defined set of requirements in a specific 
>> manner,
>> and it also has to mention explicitly what it does not define, and 
>> how it
>> relates to other efforts.
>>
>> currently the document's first few pages read like an introduction to
>> a work plan for the 'WSRF-ification' of the globus RLS, not like the 
>> intro
>> to a GGF standards doc.
>>
>> just my 2c,
>>
>> peter
>>
>> ps. other than this immediate general one, i have also technical 
>> comments - coming soon ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> From: owner-orep-wg at ggf.org [mailto:owner-orep-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Robert Schuler
>> Sent: 05 August 2005 02:56
>> To: orep-wg at ggf.org
>> Cc: annc at isi.edu; Robert Schuler
>> Subject: [orep-wg] WS-ReplicaCatalog specification
>>
>> Hello OREP WG members,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ann and I would like to share with you a draft specification for a 
>> WS-ReplicaCatalog interface. The intention is to define a WS-RF 
>> interface for a Replica Catalog, similar in functionality to existing 
>> replica catalogs (e.g., the RLS Local Replica Catalog service). As 
>> you know, the earlier OREP specification treated replica information 
>> as individual resources and was an extension of the WS-ServiceGroup 
>> specification. While that approach lends itself to fine-grain 
>> manipulation and inspection of replica location information, it lacks 
>> the concept of "bulk" operations that are so important for 
>> scalability. It is also more difficult to digest some of its 
>> concepts. In this new specification, the interface should be 
>> conceptually similar to the interface provided by existing replica 
>> catalog services (e.g., RLS LRC, and others). We also expect that 
>> this interface will be complementary to the earlier work on the OREP 
>> spec, though it does not depend on it in any way.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you find time to review it, we certainly would like to hear your 
>> thoughts, suggestions, and comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> rob
>>
>>
>
>
> Steve Crumb
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