[ogsa-wg] Webcast thoughts (abstract)

Fri Mar 24 15:51:16 CST 2006

Hi Ian, thanks - no argument from me.  I do think we need to describe
each of the capabilities, but in terms of their purpose and where they
fit in the architecture, not in terms of specs.   But this should be
balanced with a significant amount of background info, and I agree that
an objective should be to help people to understand why they should
care.  And as the webcast will remain available for download, we need it
still to be relevant a year from now.

By the way, I neglected to mention the title in the abstract document,
and I'm changing my own earlier suggestion to "Defining the Grid: An
Introduction to OGSA" (i.e. Introduction rather than Overview).  The
first part comes from the title of the Roadmap doc, which seems an
appropriate theme - and of course it was also the name of a GGF16
session.  We could also add something about standards, but I'm more
inclined to keep it short.  Other suggestions welcome.

- Jem

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	From: Ian Foster [mailto:foster at mcs.anl.gov] 
	Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 12:37 PM
	To: Treadwell, Jem; ogsa-wg
	Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Webcast thoughts (abstract)

	Dear All:

	I'm concerned that a talk that focuses on the details of various
specifications will not capture the imagination of the audience,
especially as many of those specifications don't exist yet and/or have
not been broadly adopted.

	I wonder if we should be thinking about a presentation that
emphasizes more what this will let people do?

	Ian.

	At 12:21 PM 3/24/2006 -0500, Treadwell, Jem wrote:

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		Hi, the OGSA webcast is now confirmed for Wednesday
April 26th.  We'll be discussing it on Monday's call and at the f2f in
Sunnyvale.  We plan to hold a dry run on the regular con-call on
Wednesday April 19th.  It will be hosted by HP; registration details to
be announced.

		I need to provide an abstract and some other
information, including speaker bios, by next Wednesday, 3/29, so we will
need to finalize the abstract on Monday's call.  My first draft is
attached - if you have comments or suggested changes please mark them up
on the document and return them to me as soon as possible, so that we
can review them on the call.  Please don't wait until the call, as that
will inevitably prolong the discussion.

		Thanks!

		- Jem

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		From: owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org
[mailto:owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem
		Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:31 PM
		To: Andrew Grimshaw; ogsa-wg
		Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Webcast thoughts

			Hi Andrew, sorry for the delayed response... for
anyone wondering what this is about, we're proposing to do a public
webcast about OGSA, in the April timeframe, and will have more details
once the logistics have firmed up a little more.  HP will host.

			I've been working on the slides as a background
activity, so please assume I have the pen at the moment.  I agree that
they need augmenting for this.

			I think we can set our own expectations for the
audience - we can say who it's for when we advertise it.  As a starting
point I assume we want to pitch it in the middle - some background, but
also some specifics on the capabilities and where things fit.  Thoughts
for an outline; some of this is already in place, of course: 

			Background to grid and GGF, including some
history & definitions Where grid is being used now, importance in the
commercial world, and the future Transition to SOA & Web services - why,
and what it means Standards - why they're important, a review of
relevant standards and SDOs, including latest news 
		*	Some specifics about OGSA: background, some info
from the Roadmap, and an explanation of profiles Details of the OGSA
capabilities and closely-related work - an intro diagram and a few
slides on each - high-level intro, some detailed examples, status of
work - we need to agree how technical we want to get, and try to keep
all at the same level.  e.g.: 

				Infrastructure Security EMS Data
Resource Mgmt Info CDDLM Self mgmt WS-Agreement Naming Any others? 

		BUT: we will have to be conscious of time: I've already
listed too much if capabilities average more than 3 minutes.  So this is
probably overly ambitious.

		Although we talked earlier about a 2-hour slot, I now
know it's actually 90 minutes.  [We'll have 30 minutes before the start
for the presenters to get online and do logistics.]  So the target for
the presentation should be one hour, with the remainder for Q&A.  Some
time will be spent on preliminaries, so Q&A will probably be down to 20
mins.  We probably won't have time to do audience polls, other than
maybe one at the end while Q&A is in progress.

		Here are a few other things we'll need to provide ahead
of time: 

		*	Title of presentation (e.g. "Defining the Grid:
An Overview of OGSA") 
		*	Short abstract of session 
		*	Names of speaker(s) 
		*	Duration: Target one hour for presentation, 30
minutes for Q&A 
		*	Short bios for the speaker(s) -- two or three
sentences each 

		- Jem

________________________________

		Jem Treadwell
		Hewlett-Packard Company
		6000 Irwin Road
		Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 

		Phone: 856-638-6021
		Fax: 856-638-6190
		E-mail: Jem.Treadwell at hp.com
<mailto:Jem.Treadwell at hp.com> 

________________________________

			From: owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org
[mailto:owner-ogsa-wg at ggf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Grimshaw

			Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:22 AM

			To: 'ogsa-wg'

			Subject: [ogsa-wg] Webcast thoughts

			All,

			Id like to start an email discussion in advance
of the F2F on the webcast content. While we do have an initial set of
slides I think we need to make sure that we design the talk for our
expected audience rather than based on the material we already have in
the deck. When Dave I went to MS our slide deck was not technical enough
we had the wrong talk with us, and so had to improvise. So, one of the
things Id like to know is: Who is our expected audience? Is it technical
people, if so, are they web services aware?, are they applications
developers? Or are they mostly managers and planners. Or do we have to
try and make everyone happy.

			Any insight?

			A

			Andrew Grimshaw

			Professor of Computer Science

			University of Virginia

			434-982-2204

			grimshaw at cs.virginia.edu

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