[ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel

[Hiro Kishimoto]

Hi Abdeslem,

Given WS-Policy came up during our XQuery discussion,
(see meeting minutes at https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14033)
we can discuss it at the "information/data model session" at OGF19.

In addition to OGF19, if Tom Maguire and Ellen Stokes become
ready, we could have discussion at OGSA-WG telecon either on
December 14 (Thur) or January 11 (Thur).

Tom and Ellen: What do you think?

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) wrote:
> Hi Hiro
> 
> Is it possible to schedule a discussion at OG19 (of the F2F if there 
 > is one). I will try and come along.
> 
> Abdeslem
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hiro Kishimoto [mailto:hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:12 PM
> To: Andreas Savva
> Cc: Djaoui, A (Abdeslem); ogsa-wg at ogf.org
> Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure
> Channel
> 
> 
> Hi Abdeslem and Andreas,
> 
> Let's evaluate WS-Policy separate from BP. I guess OGSA can
> use this for future development.
> 
> Thanks,
> ----
> Hiro Kishimoto
> 
> Andreas Savva wrote:
>> Abdeslem,
>>
>> I believe there is already an action on a few people within the group  
>> to look into ws-policy and report back. (This is in a slightly different 
>> context though.)
>>
>> This security profile really has to get published; it's been cooking for 
>> too long.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) wrote:
>>> OK Andreas I didn't realise this is the final re-submission to the Editor. I agree it is too late for major edits.
>>>  
>>> However WS-Policy has reached last call working draft status and it is used by all current OASIS/W3C Web Services specifications
>>> and profiles (which are at an advanced state too). It is also implemented widely. 
>>> As such and according to GFD.59 it would still qualify the profile for  recommended profile status.
>>>
>>> I think WS-Policy statements/Assertions should be within the scope of any new specification or profile not just BP.
>>> This is because as policy engines are becoming widespread, the meaning of a service description goes beyong WSDL but includes policy documents too.
>>>
>>> May be this is the right time for the OGSA-WG to look into the potential uses of WS-Policy for its domain specific requirements and capabilities (e.g. Operational and deployment characteristics, QOS, ...). 
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Abdeslem
>>> ////////
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andreas Savva [mailto:andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:23 AM
>>> To: Djaoui, A (Abdeslem)
>>> Cc: Takuya Mori; ogsa-wg at ogf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure
>>> Channel
>>>
>>>
>>> Abdeslem,
>>>
>>> Though WS-Policy is making its way through the standards process it is a
>>> bit too early to make any statements about it in this profile. (It would
>>> probably make the type of profile go down to informational if we
>>> did---according to GFD.59.)
>>>
>>> Also I think it is too late in the process for this document to include
>>> substantially new content. This final call is for re-submission to the
>>> Editor for publication; not for public comment.
>>>
>>> Finally the statements that I think you are after do not seem specific
>>> to this profile. They would presumably be more useful in a more basic
>>> OGSA profile, perhaps a future version of the OGSA (WSRF) BP or some
>>> similar basic profile.
>>>
>>> Just my 2 yen.
>>> --
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Takuya,
>>>>
>>>> I think a short section on WS-Policy needs to be added before publishing (Sorry for bring this at this late time but I am
>>>> just catching up with GGF work after a long distraction).  This is to allow a service to advertise if it supports and/or requires the use of the profile.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if it isn't too late.
>>>>
>>>> Abdeslem DJAOUI
>>>> /////////////////////
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Or
>>>> From: ogsa-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces at ogf.org]On Behalf
>>>> Of Takuya Mori
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:07 AM
>>>> To: ogsa-wg at ogf.org
>>>> Subject: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I have updated the SP - SC document as we discussed in the Nov 27
>>>> conference call, and I think it's ready for FINAL CALL.
>>>>
>>>> Please have a look through the document.  
>>>> Any comments are welcomed.
>>>>
>>>> The updated version of the profile is available on GridForge.
>>>> OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel:
>>>> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.ogsa-wg/docman.root.working_drafts.security_profile_1_0/doc13560/23
>>>>
>>>> Changes:
>>>> - accepted all the change trackers
>>>> - updated the acknowledgement section
>>>> - updated the extensibility points since those of the extended 
>>>>   profile had been updated
>>>> - added a sentence on the extensibility points E009 and E011
>>>> - updated Table 6
>>>> - a number of changes, mainly gramatical errors
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Takuya
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>>     Takuya Mori
>>>>     moritaku at bx.jp.nec.com / tk-mori at isd.nec.co.jp
>>>>     System Platform Software Development Division
>>>>     NEC Corporation, Tokyo Japan
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