[ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel

[Djaoui, A (Abdeslem)]

Hi Hiro

Is it possible to schedule a discussion at OG19 (of the F2F if there is one). I will try and come along.

Abdeslem

-----Original Message-----
From: Hiro Kishimoto [mailto:hiro.kishimoto at jp.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:12 PM
To: Andreas Savva
Cc: Djaoui, A (Abdeslem); ogsa-wg at ogf.org
Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure
Channel


Hi Abdeslem and Andreas,

Let's evaluate WS-Policy separate from BP. I guess OGSA can
use this for future development.

Thanks,
----
Hiro Kishimoto

Andreas Savva wrote:
> Abdeslem,
> 
> I believe there is already an action on a few people within the group  
> to look into ws-policy and report back. (This is in a slightly different 
> context though.)
> 
> This security profile really has to get published; it's been cooking for 
> too long.
> 
> Thanks
> Andreas
> 
> 
> Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) wrote:
>> OK Andreas I didn't realise this is the final re-submission to the Editor. I agree it is too late for major edits.
>>  
>> However WS-Policy has reached last call working draft status and it is used by all current OASIS/W3C Web Services specifications
>> and profiles (which are at an advanced state too). It is also implemented widely. 
>> As such and according to GFD.59 it would still qualify the profile for  recommended profile status.
>>
>> I think WS-Policy statements/Assertions should be within the scope of any new specification or profile not just BP.
>> This is because as policy engines are becoming widespread, the meaning of a service description goes beyong WSDL but includes policy documents too.
>>
>> May be this is the right time for the OGSA-WG to look into the potential uses of WS-Policy for its domain specific requirements and capabilities (e.g. Operational and deployment characteristics, QOS, ...). 
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Abdeslem
>> ////////
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andreas Savva [mailto:andreas.savva at jp.fujitsu.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 2:23 AM
>> To: Djaoui, A (Abdeslem)
>> Cc: Takuya Mori; ogsa-wg at ogf.org
>> Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure
>> Channel
>>
>>
>> Abdeslem,
>>
>> Though WS-Policy is making its way through the standards process it is a
>> bit too early to make any statements about it in this profile. (It would
>> probably make the type of profile go down to informational if we
>> did---according to GFD.59.)
>>
>> Also I think it is too late in the process for this document to include
>> substantially new content. This final call is for re-submission to the
>> Editor for publication; not for public comment.
>>
>> Finally the statements that I think you are after do not seem specific
>> to this profile. They would presumably be more useful in a more basic
>> OGSA profile, perhaps a future version of the OGSA (WSRF) BP or some
>> similar basic profile.
>>
>> Just my 2 yen.
>> --
>> Andreas
>>
>> Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) wrote:
>>   
>>> Takuya,
>>>
>>> I think a short section on WS-Policy needs to be added before publishing (Sorry for bring this at this late time but I am
>>> just catching up with GGF work after a long distraction).  This is to allow a service to advertise if it supports and/or requires the use of the profile.
>>>
>>> Let me know if it isn't too late.
>>>
>>> Abdeslem DJAOUI
>>> /////////////////////
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Or
>>> From: ogsa-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:ogsa-wg-bounces at ogf.org]On Behalf
>>> Of Takuya Mori
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:07 AM
>>> To: ogsa-wg at ogf.org
>>> Subject: [ogsa-wg] [update] OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I have updated the SP - SC document as we discussed in the Nov 27
>>> conference call, and I think it's ready for FINAL CALL.
>>>
>>> Please have a look through the document.  
>>> Any comments are welcomed.
>>>
>>> The updated version of the profile is available on GridForge.
>>> OGSA Security Profile 1.0 - Secure Channel:
>>> https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.ogsa-wg/docman.root.working_drafts.security_profile_1_0/doc13560/23
>>>
>>> Changes:
>>> - accepted all the change trackers
>>> - updated the acknowledgement section
>>> - updated the extensibility points since those of the extended 
>>>   profile had been updated
>>> - added a sentence on the extensibility points E009 and E011
>>> - updated Table 6
>>> - a number of changes, mainly gramatical errors
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Takuya
>>>
>>> ----
>>>     Takuya Mori
>>>     moritaku at bx.jp.nec.com / tk-mori at isd.nec.co.jp
>>>     System Platform Software Development Division
>>>     NEC Corporation, Tokyo Japan
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