[ogsa-wg] Job State proposal made to SAGA-RG

[Ian Foster]

that would be great

At 11:26 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
>And the SAGA model can be used (maybe with some refinement) to model all 
>three of ESI, BES and SAGA state diagrams...
>
>You can probably guess which model I would vote for. :-)
>
>-- Chris
>
>
>On 20/4/06 11:11, "Ian Foster" <foster at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
>
>It's certainly very desirable that we end up with a single common model!
>
>We have the ESI model, that reflects experience in GRAM and Unicore; the 
>BES model; and the SAGA model.
>
>Ian.
>
>
>At 11:08 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
>And I would encourage BES to pick up this model as well. I was going to make
>this comment on the BES document, if it ever would show up in public
>comment.
>
>-- Chris
>
>
>On 20/4/06 08:15, "Andre Merzky" <andre at merzky.net> wrote:
>
> > Quoting [Ian Foster] (Apr 20 2006):
> >>
> >> Chris:
> >> I don't understand why SAGA is proceeding with a job state modeling effort
> >> independent of BES. Can you explain?
> >> Ian.
> >
> > Ah, but we don't :-)  SAGA has a very simple state model
> > (new, running, done, failed, unknown).  However, the states
> > have 'substates', which can be queried, and expose the
> > complete BES state model.
> >
> > The simple model above only exposes those states which can
> > be changed with SAGA calls.  As saga calls get added, e.g.
> > for hold, more stated might get exposed on that level.
> >
> > Please have a look at
> > 
> <http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/png00005.png>http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/png00005.png
> > I hope that state diagram makes that clearer.  I am not sure
> > if it is in sync with the current BES states.
> >
> > Another post to exactly that topic is at
> > 
> <http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00131.html>http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00131.html
> >
> > Cheers, Andre.
> >
> >
> >
> >> At 07:18 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
> >>
> >>      Hi all,
> >>      Per Marvin's comments ...
> >>      Here is a pointer to the proposal for modelling job states that I 
> made
> >> to
> >>      the SAGA group last February.
> >>
> >> 
> [1]<http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.htm>http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.htm
> >>      l
> >>      -- Chris
> >>
> >>   _______________________________________________________________
> >>       Ian Foster, Director, Computation Institute
> >>    Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago
> >>    Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439
> >>    Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637
> >>    Tel: +1 630 252 4619.  Web: [2]www.ci.uchicago.edu.
> >>          Globus Alliance: [3]www.globus.org.
> >>
> >> References
> >>
> >>    1.
> >> 
> <http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.html>http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.html
> >>    2. http://www.ci.uchicago.edu/
> >>    3. <http://www.globus.org/>http://www.globus.org/
> >
> >
>
>_______________________________________________________________
>   Ian Foster, Director, Computation Institute
>Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago
>Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439
>Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637
>Tel: +1 630 252 4619.  Web: www.ci.uchicago.edu 
><http://www.ci.uchicago.edu/> .
>       Globus Alliance: www.globus.org <http://www.globus.org/> .
>
>

_______________________________________________________________
    Ian Foster, Director, Computation Institute
Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago
Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439
Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637
Tel: +1 630 252 4619.  Web: www.ci.uchicago.edu.
       Globus Alliance: www.globus.org.

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