[ogsa-wg] Job State proposal made to SAGA-RG
Christopher Smith
csmith at platform.com
Thu Apr 20 13:26:02 CDT 2006
And the SAGA model can be used (maybe with some refinement) to model all
three of ESI, BES and SAGA state diagrams...
You can probably guess which model I would vote for. :-)
-- Chris
On 20/4/06 11:11, "Ian Foster" <foster at mcs.anl.gov> wrote:
> It's certainly very desirable that we end up with a single common model!
>
> We have the ESI model, that reflects experience in GRAM and Unicore; the BES
> model; and the SAGA model.
>
> Ian.
>
>
> At 11:08 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
>> And I would encourage BES to pick up this model as well. I was going to make
>> this comment on the BES document, if it ever would show up in public
>> comment.
>>
>> -- Chris
>>
>>
>> On 20/4/06 08:15, "Andre Merzky" <andre at merzky.net> wrote:
>>
>>> > Quoting [Ian Foster] (Apr 20 2006):
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Chris:
>>>> >> I don't understand why SAGA is proceeding with a job state modeling
>>>> effort
>>>> >> independent of BES. Can you explain?
>>>> >> Ian.
>>> >
>>> > Ah, but we don't :-) SAGA has a very simple state model
>>> > (new, running, done, failed, unknown). However, the states
>>> > have 'substates', which can be queried, and expose the
>>> > complete BES state model.
>>> >
>>> > The simple model above only exposes those states which can
>>> > be changed with SAGA calls. As saga calls get added, e.g.
>>> > for hold, more stated might get exposed on that level.
>>> >
>>> > Please have a look at
>>> > http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/png00005.png
>>> > I hope that state diagram makes that clearer. I am not sure
>>> > if it is in sync with the current BES states.
>>> >
>>> > Another post to exactly that topic is at
>>> > http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00131.html
>>> >
>>> > Cheers, Andre.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>> >> At 07:18 AM 4/20/2006 -0700, Christopher Smith wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>> >> Per Marvin's comments ...
>>>> >> Here is a pointer to the proposal for modelling job states that I
>>>> made
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> the SAGA group last February.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> [1]http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.htm
>>>> >> l
>>>> >> -- Chris
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________________________
>>>> >> Ian Foster, Director, Computation Institute
>>>> >> Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago
>>>> >> Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439
>>>> >> Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637
>>>> >> Tel: +1 630 252 4619. Web: [2]www.ci.uchicago.edu.
>>>> >> Globus Alliance: [3]www.globus.org.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> References
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1.
>>>> >> http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/saga-rg/2006/02/msg00107.html
>>>> >> 2. http://www.ci.uchicago.edu/
>>>> >> 3. http://www.globus.org/
>>> >
>>> >
> _______________________________________________________________
> Ian Foster, Director, Computation Institute
> Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago
> Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439
> Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637
> Tel: +1 630 252 4619. Web: www.ci.uchicago.edu <http://www.ci.uchicago.edu/>
> .
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