[ogsa-hpcp-wg] Globus Status

[Mark Morgan]

Well, personally, I believe that the discussion before revolved around
whether or not people were required to post EPRs to the WIKI pages for
degenerate EPRs where only the Address field had a value (i.e., where
metadata and reference parameters were empty or null as allowed by spec.).
Since such an EPR is identical in informational content to a play URL,
people believed that they shouldn't be required to post EPRs.  However, at
no point did we decide to dissalow WS-Addressing of endpoint should an
implementation choose to use them.  Chris (and please correct me Chris if I
mis-represent you) certainly expressed a desire to avoid implementing
WS-Addressing on his client side, but has since done so in order to achieve
interoperability with the GenesisII endpoint as our endpoint requires the
ReferenceParameters header elements.  Others in the HPC interop group, can
you confirm or deny my interpretation of the early discussion?  Is my
endpoint out of spec., or am I correct in assuming that I am welcome to use
WS-Addressing for my endpoint (i.e., to require ReferenceParameters in the
headers.)?

-Mark

--
Mark Morgan
Research Scientist
Department of Computer Science
University of Virginia
http://www.cs.virginia.edu
mmm2a at virginia.edu
(434) 982-2047 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter G. Lane [mailto:lane at mcs.anl.gov] 
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:09 AM
> To: Mark Morgan
> Cc: ogsa-hpcp-wg at ggf.org
> Subject: Re: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Globus Status
> 
> This is what Chris said:
> 
> I'm guessing that yours will require me to set some SOAP 
> header blocks based on the WS-Addressing SOAP binding. I had 
> hoped to avoid this detail for now....
> 
> By this I was under the impression that nobody was going to 
> build clients that added WS-Addressing SOAP headers. If that 
> was the case, then services shouldn't publish EPRs that have 
> anything more than an address field.
> 
> Chris, did you change your mind? Was this only your point of 
> view, or did you think that everyone was going to skip the 
> SOAP headers as well?
> 
> At any rate, I should still be able to interop with those 
> services that aren't expecting the SOAP headers. It just 
> means I have to exclude at least the Genesis II 
> implementation since I won't have enough time to implement 
> the agreed upon version of WS-Addressing.
> 
> Peter
> 
> Mark Morgan wrote:
> > I think you misunderstood the result of that discussion.  The end 
> > result was that services that didn't NEED EPRs, could use URLs.  
> > However, we didn't dissalow EPRs, only allowed the more 
> degenerate case of them (the pure URL).
> > 
> > -Mark
> > 
> > --
> > Mark Morgan
> > Research Scientist
> > Department of Computer Science
> > University of Virginia
> > http://www.cs.virginia.edu
> > mmm2a at virginia.edu
> > (434) 982-2047
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces at ogf.org
> >> [mailto:ogsa-hpcp-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf Of Peter G. Lane
> >> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:28 AM
> >> To: ogsa-hpcp-wg at ggf.org
> >> Subject: [ogsa-hpcp-wg] Globus Status
> >>
> >> I have the create and terminate operations implemented and working 
> >> locally. I will put up an endpoint sometime today, and by 
> them will 
> >> hopefully have the other operations implemented. Is there a WSDL 
> >> snipit or something of this "Show job output" operation, 
> or does this 
> >> just mean that I have an FTP server running?
> >>
> >> Problems
> >> --------
> >> I am unable to get responses from either of the .Net 
> implementations 
> >> using my client. My SOAP message logging show that the 
> client message 
> >> is going out, but nothing is ever received back. Are these 
> services 
> >> still up?
> >>
> >> I tried using my client on the Platform service (service URL 
> >> https://plato.dreadnought.org), but I got an error saying that the 
> >> client couldn't find the correct CA. I did download and 
> install the 
> >> CA cert and have debug output showing it was loaded, so 
> I'm wondering 
> >> if anyone has had success with this service recently. If 
> so, Chris, 
> >> could I get the public certificate of the server to help in my 
> >> debugging?
> >>
> >> After agreeing that we wouldn't use EPRs, I'm confused 
> about the use 
> >> of them on the wiki. I did what others did and didn't bother 
> >> implementing support for the WS-Addressing SOAP headers. 
> The Platform 
> >> EPR is trivial so that's not a problem.
> >> The GenesisII EPR, though, is very non-trivial. That said, 
> I see that 
> >> some clients have indeed talked to the GenesisII endpoint, so I'm 
> >> rather confused. Did I miss a discussion where it was decided that 
> >> full WS-Addressing support was now mandatory?
> >>
> >> Finally, I tried to use the CROWN endpoint too, but I get the 
> >> following error:
> >>
> >> Authentication failed [Caused by: Defective credential detected 
> >> [Caused by: [JGLOBUS-96] Certificate 
> >> "C=CN,ST=Beijing,L=Beijing,O=company,OU=department,CN=localhos
> >> t" expired]]
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> > 
> 
>