[ogf20pc] Notes from last night's telcon

[John Brooke]

Dear all,
          Having thought about this, after reading the correspondence, 
on balance I agree with Neil and Malcolm. A developer track needs to be 
regular and provided that on balance the different middleware systems 
are able to get access, then I would not be too concerned about the 
content of an individual OGF. We are going to have to live with a 
pluralistic world and work to get interoperation so we need to learn 
about other systems than our own. I also echo Neil's point that 
marketing is not the purpose of these sessions and respect should be 
shown that there are several projects of major scope and longevity 
working towards standards that can promote interoperability.

                               Best wishes.
                                        John

Malcolm Atkinson wrote:

>I would back continuing the developer track for the reasons that Neil gives
>and
>1) holding it at OGFn brings people to that Forum who we need in order to
>identify and define standards; and
>2) it probably increases the chances of developers hearing about particular
>OGF standards and adopting them.
>
>Those two effects were behind the idea of developer tracks.
>The idea should be pursued consistently for it to have a chance of having
>significant effects.  This is likely to be a more direct effect and have a
>larger impact than some of the community and enterprise activities we engage
>in.
>
>Malcolm
>
>
>
>On 22/2/07 16:06, "neil p chue hong" <N.ChueHong at epcc.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>
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>
>> 
>>Hi Dave,
>>
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>>
>>>There is a suggestion to cancel the developer track at OGF20,
>>>as we are short of slots and have several good workshop
>>>proposals.  E.g. we would like to fit in the Arts and
>>>Humanities workshop.
>>>      
>>>
>>I think it would be a big mistake to cancel the Developer Track. If we are
>>to consider OGF in its wider role as a community forum to bring together
>>people working in eScience, the Developer track fulfils a previously
>>unaddressed gap for those who are working close to standards but not on
>>them, and those who are working with applications scientists on developing
>>software and applications.
>>
>>The four sessions I attended at OGF19 (GT4, OMII-UK, Genesis-II and OGCE)
>>were all very well attended and generated a lot of ongoing interest. My only
>>comment is that the steer for these sessions should focus them to a
>>developer audience - some veered a bit to high up towards marketing.
>> 
>>cheers,
>>neil
>>
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