[occi-wg] Simple JSON rendering for OCCI

[Roger Menday]

Hi,

> Andy
>
> It's not completely obvious to me how people can interoperate on just
> a model, nor how normative renderings can be plural.


Is'nt it a lot to do with communication ? ... i.e. interoperation via  
the rendering, communication of the concepts primarily with a model.

re : how renderings can be plural. I think it is interesting to at  
least think about how this works, even if the approach is that they  
are NOT plural ....

related : as others have pointed out, there is a long history of  
information modeling at the OGF. Is there some cross-over, information  
modeling-wise, with existing work ?

Roger

> alexis
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Edmonds, AndrewX
> <andrewx.edmonds at intel.com> wrote:
>> I'd (again) agree with this and would re-iterate Alexander's  
>> (Papaspyrou) earlier point on approach and process:
>>
>> "The canonical way to cope with this issue [formats] (which, by the  
>> way, has proved right many times in the past) in many WGs within  
>> OGF is to separate this step not only in design, but also in  
>> specification: have an abstract "modeling" part in the spec which  
>> clearly defines the semantics the data, and one or more normative  
>> renderings for the abstract model."
>>
>> It would also seem to me that although we have the noun-verb- 
>> attribute reasoning it might need to be expressed in an easier form  
>> to communicate, say graphically.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On  
>> Behalf Of Roger Menday
>> Sent: 12 May 2009 11:43
>> To: Richard Davies
>> Cc: occi-wg at ogf.org
>> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Simple JSON rendering for OCCI
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 May 2009, at 11:20, Richard Davies wrote:
>>
>>>> Therein lies the problem - there are no "standard tools" nor any
>>>> way to
>>>> specify a cross-platform mechanical transform for JSON (at least
>>>> not yet).
>>>
>>> Yes, I agree with you there - if we're going with multiple formats
>>> it'll be
>>> easier to define XML -> JSON than JSON -> XML.
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> Rather than transforming across the actual formats, there seems to be
>> a interest in defining a model and then describe how to render onto
>> various data formats. So, rendering-down, rather then transforming-
>> across. (?)
>>
>> The data formats discussion is a tricky one to resolve, as there's
>> things to like in each of JSON, ATOM and key-value. That said, the
>> "compliant, but non-interoperable implementations through supporting
>> multiple representations" is a strong argument for a single format.
>> Whatever that may be ...
>>
>> regards
>> Roger
>>
>>>
>>> Richard.
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