[occi-wg] Simple JSON rendering for OCCI

[Alexis Richardson]

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Roger Menday
<roger.menday at uk.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>
> related : as others have pointed out, there is a long history of information
> modeling at the OGF. Is there some cross-over, information modeling-wise,
> with existing work ?

One would hope so.  The (partly) scientific provenance of OGF surely
favours some formal underpinnings here.




> Roger
>
>> alexis
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Edmonds, AndrewX
>> <andrewx.edmonds at intel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'd (again) agree with this and would re-iterate Alexander's (Papaspyrou)
>>> earlier point on approach and process:
>>>
>>> "The canonical way to cope with this issue [formats] (which, by the way,
>>> has proved right many times in the past) in many WGs within OGF is to
>>> separate this step not only in design, but also in specification: have an
>>> abstract "modeling" part in the spec which clearly defines the semantics the
>>> data, and one or more normative renderings for the abstract model."
>>>
>>> It would also seem to me that although we have the noun-verb-attribute
>>> reasoning it might need to be expressed in an easier form to communicate,
>>> say graphically.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org [mailto:occi-wg-bounces at ogf.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Roger Menday
>>> Sent: 12 May 2009 11:43
>>> To: Richard Davies
>>> Cc: occi-wg at ogf.org
>>> Subject: Re: [occi-wg] Simple JSON rendering for OCCI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 May 2009, at 11:20, Richard Davies wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Therein lies the problem - there are no "standard tools" nor any
>>>>> way to
>>>>> specify a cross-platform mechanical transform for JSON (at least
>>>>> not yet).
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I agree with you there - if we're going with multiple formats
>>>> it'll be
>>>> easier to define XML -> JSON than JSON -> XML.
>>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> Rather than transforming across the actual formats, there seems to be
>>> a interest in defining a model and then describe how to render onto
>>> various data formats. So, rendering-down, rather then transforming-
>>> across. (?)
>>>
>>> The data formats discussion is a tricky one to resolve, as there's
>>> things to like in each of JSON, ATOM and key-value. That said, the
>>> "compliant, but non-interoperable implementations through supporting
>>> multiple representations" is a strong argument for a single format.
>>> Whatever that may be ...
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Roger
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard.
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